McManus Party

Big swing..........they should have held it at a secret location.

guy has money.he threw a party.so what?hes keeping thousands in jobs in ireland.only for him the irish nh racing scene would be in ribbons.fair dues to him.

Give me Michael O'Leary any day of the week.

Pays his taxes, doesn't play the big fellow by donating to this and that, and doesn't suck up to the great and the good.  And as regards creating jobs....no contest.

Irish racing is barely surviving and what has this guy done for anything in this country......where does he pay his taxes,this is another disgrace and surely questions to answer for Noonan and co to be attending this sort of bash.....or whatever you want to call it.....Fianna Gael are just Fianna Fail there is the same difference......Galway tent moved to Limerick this year.............

he contributes to what he thinks is right not to paying the bankers,where my paye goes.i wish i had the choice.

No problem throwing a party but he threw a huge bash that he knew was going to come out in the media.

What does that say?

Michael O'Leary pays tax on his salary from Ryanair.....€1.27 million.
JP McManus is a tax exile who funds local sporting organisations, charities, hospitals, scholarships etc.......

I think the modesty that he attempts to display in public interviews are insincere.

Ok he has 300 odd Nh horses in training in Ireland and GB and no doubt contributes massively towards the industry but he is taking some amount out between him ans his son.An untouchable,bigger than the game.

To be fair to Jay he is spot on with a lot of his argument, for me i could not care who McManus invited or what he held but really it's more onus for the likes of Noonan to decline than for McManus not too invite. One rule for the working class and another for the rich in this country.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make, Gant

the country is gone mad too.......ya cant have a few friends over for a few drinks.....and the cribbers are out in force.....its a pity they didnt have it this weekend.....then they could have invited some of our olympic medallists......katie and john joe would have been at it.....thats a cert......

What jobs did McManus ever create?, he buys horses to pursue a hobby, easy to buy horses when you're saving millions every year by been a tax exile, easy to contribute to charities when you're saving millions every year as a tax exile, basically its mere pocket money to this insincere tax exile.
Wasn't that party a who's who of goverment rogues, Ahern, McCreevy and that despicable Lowry?.

westlife were the entertainment...... no thanks.

Gant probably drove O'Rourke and a few others from his neck of the woods down to it. Btw what was the party in aid of?

A fundraiser for Limerick FC.

it was no fundraiser.....it was in memory of a dead horse......

Yeah this job Myth is a bit bizarre tbh, its his hobby. He keeps a lot of horses in training not because he cares for the economy but purely selfish reasons which is fine.

The evening started with a drinks reception at 6.30 as hundreds of cases of Dom Perignon champagne were cracked open for arriving guests who mingled in splendid sunshine on the immaculately manicured grounds of Mr McManus's estate.

"The bill for the drink alone would bail out a small country," said one guest.

The gold-crusted invitations issued by Mr McManus and his wife Noreen requested guests celebrate the two horses' success.

Man of earth right there. Gold Crusted invitations

I wish I had a hobby that keeps a large number of people in work.
Our builders did these big parties for years and handed us a large bill.

Going to be an Annual event by all accounts.

Gant if McManus didn't buy those horses someone else would've, the fact is every owner has to pay training fees which indirectly funds racing stables, he didn't buy those horses to keep people in a job but to have fun with his tax exile savings.

Plenty of yards in this country are glad he is having fun and paying his training fees.

Fair enough gant, but it wasn't any philantropy on his behalf it was just a very rich man indulging in his favourite hobby.
McManus might be the most prolific owner, but he's buying almost recklessly in the hope he unearths the odd superstar and don't forget he has the financial clout to prevent other owners and potential rivals from requiring these horses, so in effect its a subtle form of bullying, its certainly not any bleeding heart for the plight of the lowly paid stable staff.

Does McManus give a christmas bonus to all the stable staff working in the stables he has horses in training with, sounds like those lavish parties could easily fund that?.

The staff are the responsibility of the person they work for........his fees should be enough but he is known to fund a session or 2.

So we agree then gant he employs nobody?

McManus own so many horses purely for Gambling purposes I would imagine.

I am sure he employs many people in various ventures across the country......in the racing industry he is keeping people in work.

So if he employs nobody you will surely agree then that the tax exile thing is exagerated.

Ruby.........I see your rich owner got rid of a fair few screws during the week at doncaster.

Gant getting very sore if people dare takle the FF mafia

He did finally started to cut the rubbish. Waste of time and money.

remember the bullying of saf over rock of g

bullying saf?ur surely having a laugh.he tried the bullying and soon realised he was dealing with the wrong people!!

what happened ruby?did u not get invited

mcmanus is the type of geezer if i was marking,i would break him up,a parasite!

To be fair JP does a lot of good but if I paid no taxes I could own a horse or two also. I am sure there are thousands of others who could and would love to do likewise. This insincere low-profile cr@p gets on my goat tbh.

i am sure e bolger was no 1 on the list maybe celebrating fearless leaders life

I wasn't Kingrat very disappointed. Mind you if I was I prob be restrained for trying to steal Istrabraq when the Dinner was going on!

Did yiz all see the report in the IT lately about the  following ?
It appears there's a company called Castlebeck which owns a private hospital Winterbourne View in Bristol.
A BBC Panorama programme uncovered a litany of abuse there including such as
-beating patients with autism and learning difficulties
-dousing them in water
-encouraging some to commit suicide
( 11 former staff are awaiting sentence after pleading guilty to the above)

A Serious Case Review group examined matters and found that ....

'Castlebeck appears to have made decisions about profitability,including shareholder returns,over and above decisions about the effective and humane delivery of assessment ,treatment and rehabilitation.
It is clear that at critical points in the wretched history of Winterbourne View,
key decisions about priorities were taken by Castlebeck which impaired the ability of the hospital to improve the mental health and physical health and wellbeing of the patients '

The investors said they were 'shocked and appalled and determined this will never happen again'.

Oh yes , who were the investors I hear you ask ...
Well they numbered among their ranks
Mr. D Brosnan
Mr. J Magnier
Mr. D Desmond and
Mr. J P McManus ...almsgiver and philanthropist extraordinaire. ( Ta-da! )

beating patients with autism and learning difficulties.......that sounds nasty.......if they ever put old wonks in there.....hed be getting some hidings......he's much safer where he is......

Is there a GAA club in Bristol that he can slip a few quid to in order to smooth things over?  Or perhaps send a few dud hosses to a trainer in that neck of the woods?

Or just Sponsor a rounabout.........

Brosnan is one man who needs to be put all his cards on the table. The role he played as the Chair of HRI and his association with Magnier et al doesn't look good. There ought to be a fair and impartial probe into this matter.

"Does McManus give a christmas bonus to all the stable staff working in the stables he has horses in training with, sounds like those lavish parties could easily fund that?. "

I believe he does.

You believe he does?????? or you know he does?  I believe in life after death but that doesn't mean I am going to come back.

cue a reply with some reference to a certain syndicate

well he has given BI's trainer plenty of horses.......and he was won virtually nothing......gave him a 300k horse and he managed to get it beat in a maiden hurdle......the stable staff are extremely lucky in Colms to be getting anything for christmas......because if it was based on results.......theyd b getting a used xmas cracker......

come on guys are u really goin to come down on the guy cos he is a tax exile?? im willing to bet most of people on dis forum wouldnt pay tax if they could get away with it including me...just cos JP is dealing with vast amounts of money shouldnt be a reason to knock him...would u prefer he pay his taxes and give nothing to the causes he supports?? he not breakin any laws livin abroad and if the truth be told we would all love to be as fearless a gambler as him

pointone, fearless gamblers are generally not successful.

Point no one likes paying taxes but many people who could opt out continue to pay. Why should other people have to carry an extra burden because some are unwilling to contribute. 99% of the population would prefer if he paid his taxes rather than acting the big man supporting "his" causes. I was always a fan of his but am turned off him big time because of this.

You can only play the hand you are dealt by an owner and I don't think 20 grade 1s with four different horses is too shabby!! I wouldn't mind the Xmas cracker that comes with those wins.