Kingrat you are not capable of debate just a craven line in personal abuse.

You fall for it every time,I put on the kettle knowing when I returned you would have responded.
Kingrat sounds an ideal buddy for you as I remember a poster called Tolerant? Saying you were suspected of similar type deeds forcing you to flee your hometown,some call you Raymond Gilmore.

The posters name was Reluctant,I don't know whether it's true or not but I do know you are confused.You never found the post where I allegedly said you owed bookies money,hardly surprising as it is a figment of your imagination but you are troubled about something and spent four hours searching to no avail.
You claimed you were a wealthy bookie in your private messages and now seem confused,what claims did you make in your personal contacts to LittleSuzieLays.

what has this to do with fleeing town u sick freak?think u r the one confused..........u should go for a pint in the horse and jockey or do they not allow cross dressers |?

u must have run out of lies again tootsie

Did he win the Swiss Derby or something Ruby?

A strong ride by the young man to bag another group 1.........

Oh Durcan

Shame!

I remember saying after the last time he ran the money was only lent. Hopefully The Gotchee was one but i would be very surprised if he was. More to come from Imperial Monarch tho, looked lost and very green.

With SYT, St Nicholas Abbey gone this year. I would expect Imperial to stay in training with possibly Camelot if they are brave. Guess it will depend on there 2yr olds this year what they will do.

Just shows you what a mug Top Class Jockeys can be when the pressure is on.

Rides a stayer for a change of pace on a tight track on a basic walking pace. Worse ride of 2012!! horse was not good enough anyways but that was barely believable. Jesus!

I would be very surprised if that horse is not injured........the horse was never comfortable and went all over the shop when asked for an effort.

I actually backed it but if he had kept him straight he would have won a lot more easily.

LOL Unbelievable comment, can anyone else believe this comment, beggers belief, rancid.

Anyone hear what Spencer said this morning, Horse was fine but Fresh so decided to hold him up. Wow!

Silver I agree the horse was no good as I said above but what ever little chance he had he had no chance the way he was ridden, Remember Irish Derby last year he took an age an age to win over Seville for goodness sake and even with the remarkable slow fractions he had no chance.

Winner prob would have won if Treasure Beach was 100% but that ride was pathetic and as many pundits have described the worse ride of 2012. Horrible stuff!

Timeform Radio both said it was the worst ride of 2012. Terry Norman and some other chap, in fairness tho they were spot on and not the usual gravy train.

For a horse to win you need trainer and jockey to get it all right on the day.

Santry those tactics were employed on a even tighter track called Arlington where he won the Arlington Million last year, to say the horse was not good enough is a red herring as the ride never gave him a chance to win, he lost the race before it came apparant the horse was finished.

Mind you the excellent Colm O Donoghue rode Treasure Beach.

Always prominent, soon tracking leader on rail in 2nd, shaken up to press leader over 2f out, hard ridden on outside from 1 1/2f out, took narrow lead 100yds out, ran on well

Now how did Spencer think doing the exact opposite on the same horse a year later was going to pay off, I say again it was pathetic

Pointless Silver, there is nothing pointless about making a fact that Jamie Spencer was Idiotic last night as he has proved many times with Coolmore when the pressure is on and he was expected to deliver a compentent riding performance but instead rode like a amateur.

When he rides a way that plainly disadvantages his own horse, his competence as a professional jockey is brought into question as is his motives.

To say the first mile of the race had no bearing on his finish is ludricious as is your assertion that the horse was beaten miles so who cares how inept a jockey was.

Spencers own quotes

"He was moving fine, he just didn't do anything. The pace was steady, but he was a bit rank early, so I had to get him back."

He was rank because he doesn't like to be held up, as a result he was wasting energy and trapped wide going around the bends, losing ground and losing vital energy. He runs from close to the pace does Treasure Beach as anyone who has watched his whole career, when he beat Nathaniel when he nearly won the Epsom Derby and when he won the Irish Derby when he won at Arlingston. So Jamie Spencer the horse whisper decides that on his own account not doing any homework on his ride that he will do what he wants and ride the race as he see's fit and the result of his judgement so follows. He spat the dummy 4f from home and then perceeded to lug across the track, having no to quicken of a farce pace is hard enough for the best horses nevermind a average Group 1 horse like Treasure Beach.

Tom Queally on Frankel races from the front to keep out of trouble and use the horses natural talents, he lets the horse go and he performs, All spencer had to do was let the horse do what he is comfortable at doing but he failed miserably to do so. He got that horse beat before the horse beat himself IMO.

The horse wasn't good enough on the day. Get over it.