Irish Sports
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
ob Bridge scheme - A wolf in sheep's clothing?
If you're a job seeker like myself it's likely you're aware of Job Bridge; the national internship scheme.
Here's the link:
http://www.jobbridge.ie/
On the surface it seems promising. It gives jobseekers and graduates like myself a good training and experience opportunity through a 6 - 9 months work placement in which you keep your jobseekers allowance AND recieve an additional €50 per week while you're on this placement.
But... I see a huge problem with this and maybe some of you have spotted it too.
Wont this undercut the current workforce and worsen the unemployment problem?
Look at it from the perspective of an employer who runs a company.
Business isn't booming, the company is just keeping its head above water and his employees cost €400+ per week. Wouldn't it make sense for him to let a whole bunch of them go and take on these people from Job Bridge for free? He gains profit with his free workforce and only has to pay a proper wage to the higher up more important members of the team. Once the Job Bridge trainees' 9 month placement is over, take on another group!
Through this process, the recession worsens until it acquiesces to the point where all of Ireland becomes a cheap workforce for the heads of these companies. Everyone earns their dole plus 50 a week. And what's even sneakier is that it's not legislation. It's optional. But if you don't take part in it, the social welfare see it as a lack of effort and you risk losing your jobseekers benefit. So we're gently coerced into it.
So my theory sounds crazy but judging by our government's track record it's hardly something which is below them.
I could be totally wrong. There could be a certain stipulation in the scheme which prevents this from happening (I know they only have 5000 places but they could expand that if it's successful) and I've never studied business or economics so there could be some gaping holes in my theory but in this case I would be happy to have it debunked. I've lost all hope and faith in this country and I would like for Job Bridge not to be as sinister as I think it might be...
Well... that was a fair old rant. Thoughts?
Thanks from:
She Devil
27-11-2011, 22:40 #2
Delancey
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,951
Adverts | Friends
Mod: PSNI Recruitment
Take afew minutes to read through this forum - several threads already on the great con job that is Job Bridge and how it displaces real jobs in return for unpaid skivvying.
(3) thanks from:
doovdela, RangeR, wmpdd3
27-11-2011, 23:04 #3
kadman
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,852
Adverts | Friends
Mod: Woodcraft
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cawk n bawllz
If you're a job seeker like myself it's likely you're aware of Job Bridge; the national internship scheme.
Here's the link:
http://www.jobbridge.ie/
On the surface it seems promising. It gives jobseekers and graduates like myself a good training and experience opportunity through a 6 - 9 months work placement in which you keep your jobseekers allowance AND recieve an additional €50 per week while you're on this placement.
But... I see a huge problem with this and maybe some of you have spotted it too.
Wont this undercut the current workforce and worsen the unemployment problem?
Look at it from the perspective of an employer who runs a company.
Business isn't booming, the company is just keeping its head above water and his employees cost €400+ per week. Wouldn't it make sense for him to let a whole bunch of them go and take on these people from Job Bridge for free? He gains profit with his free workforce and only has to pay a proper wage to the higher up more important members of the team. Once the Job Bridge trainees' 9 month placement is over, take on another group!
Through this process, the recession worsens until it acquiesces to the point where all of Ireland becomes a cheap workforce for the heads of these companies. Everyone earns their dole plus 50 a week. And what's even sneakier is that it's not legislation. It's optional. But if you don't take part in it, the social welfare see it as a lack of effort and you risk losing your jobseekers benefit. So we're gently coerced into it.
So my theory sounds crazy but judging by our government's track record it's hardly something which is below them.
I could be totally wrong. There could be a certain stipulation in the scheme which prevents this from happening (I know they only have 5000 places but they could expand that if it's successful) and I've never studied business or economics so there could be some gaping holes in my theory but in this case I would be happy to have it debunked. I've lost all hope and faith in this country and I would like for Job Bridge not to be as sinister as I think it might be...
Well... that was a fair old rant. Thoughts?
That was a fair old rant.
But you have your finger right on the pulse. You only have to look at all the big corporations and multi nationals , that have signed up to take advantage of it.
If these positions are there, why dont they pay a fair wage for them. HP and BT have signed up for the benefit of getting some slaves. Now dont tell me that they need subsidised labour.
kadman
28-11-2011, 11:34 #4
Cawk n bawllz
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 42
Adverts | Friends
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delancey
Take afew minutes to read through this forum - several threads already on the great con job that is Job Bridge and how it displaces real jobs in return for unpaid skivvying.
Ah. I should have had a look around the board first. Yeah I saw some of the comments in other threads. Everyone appears to be strongly against Job Bridge.
So does anyone oppose the notion that Job Bridge is a scam here?
Two of my friends are on it. One of them did it willingly as he's trying to help his career and the other was told that she has to be making some sort of effort to improve her situation or her benefits will be facing review and job bridge was the only available option.
28-11-2011, 12:26 #5
7Sins
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Kilkenny
Posts: 258
Adverts | Friends
I quite enjoyed my interview a few months back with the fas lady, I don't know what her actual title was but she sat behind a desk and told me how to google for their jobs online.
It went something like this...
Her: Have you heard about our jobs bridge
Me: Yea (I know, I'm charming)
Her: The idea is to give people like you a lick of experience and at the end of the 9 months an employer might keep you on (she says smugly as though to say yeaaaaaa right )
*She googles stuff for me*
Her: Oh there's nothing coming up for your career but this sounds similar
Me: It's not similar....ummm....I'm kinda interested in going abroad for work, you guys got anything online like in England or something?
Her: Oh yes we do!
Me: I see, and is that like claiming welfare with a 50 quid bonus too?
Her: Oh no, they would be real jobs!
Me: I see
By the way, I'm 24 and it was 144 a week for me, so this extra 50 that I should've been soooo grateful for just brings it up to the normal dole. Am I wrong to assume that the internships where mostly meant for a below 25 jobseeker?
And what's up with these turnipships for jobs like waitressing and child minding
Thanks from:
RangeR
28-11-2011, 13:15 #6
Cawk n bawllz
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 42
Adverts | Friends
Something which greatly annoys me about Social Welfare and FAS is that they act as if the unemployment problem is due to people not having work experience or not having a good CV and not due to the fact that the country is having its proverbial backside brutally violated by our government, the banks and the IMF.
28-11-2011, 19:51 #7
starrynightsky
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 7
Adverts | Friends
I agree with the comments about it undercutting regular workers. It stinks when you look at the wider picture certainly. For me however it looks like the only way to get experience in a sector notoriously difficult to find work in. I'm hoping to gain as much from it as I put in, and maybe make contacts that will eventually offer me real work. It seems like a long shot but I've been unemployed now for 6 months, countless job applications resulting in nothing. Its basically Job Bridge or death-by-boredom it seems. I might as well give it a try. My issue is rent allowance, since I am moving county to start the internship. I have to have been privately renting for 6 months, which I haven't. The extra 50 doesn't nearly cover the rent, plus I need deposit and rent up front. Does anyone know where I can appeal this? Job Bridge/Fas themselves say its nothing to do with them and I keep getting directed around in circles.
28-11-2011, 23:10 #8
experiMental
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dublin 16
Posts: 845
Adverts | Friends
I don't see the Job Bridge scheme as a means to take advantage of people. If companies want to perform internationally, they have to make sacrifices. In Ukraine, for example, the minimum wage is set at 100 Euro per month. How can it be possible to compete with this?
Maybe the job bridge payment is too low for people with families, who need to retrain for a new career, but that's another story. For those that are single, unemployed and have no mortgages, job bridge is an opportunity.
Poverty is something that most of us have to deal with, in a country that hardly manufactures anything.
Yesterday, 00:11 #9
ourtrail
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 156
Adverts | Friends
I have just recently started the Job Bridge programme and so far things are going great however I do realise I have struck lucky -
1. The business is a couple of hundred yards walk from my house so no travel expenses and is a large, well respected company
2. I live at home so no bills, no rent - except €24 deducted from JSA for living at home
3. Free meals on duty and I am receiving excellent training and hands on experience in the area of work I have my degree in.
I am also in the age bracket whereby I only receive €100 a week which after a €24 deduction for means leaves me with €76 a week so I am very glad of the extra €50. However if my circumstances were even slightly different there is no way I could afford to do it. If I had to travel even a bus ride to the premises or pay rent, the only thing I would be getting is experience which would be dampened by feeling like I was doing it for nothing. It appears the scheme only really benefits those at home of an age where they cannot earn full dole!
Thanks from:
She Devil
Yesterday, 00:26 #10
kadman
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,852
Adverts | Friends
Mod: Woodcraft
Quote:
Originally Posted by ourtrail
I have just recently started the Job Bridge programme and so far things are going great however I do realise I have struck lucky -
1. The business is a couple of hundred yards walk from my house so no travel expenses and is a large, well respected company
2. I live at home so no bills, no rent - except €24 deducted from JSA for living at home
3. Free meals on duty and I am receiving excellent training and hands on experience in the area of work I have my degree in.
I am also in the age bracket whereby I only receive €100 a week which after a €24 deduction for means leaves me with €76 a week so I am very glad of the extra €50. However if my circumstances were even slightly different there is no way I could afford to do it. If I had to travel even a bus ride to the premises or pay rent, the only thing I would be getting is experience which would be dampened by feeling like I was doing it for nothing. It appears the scheme only really benefits those at home of an age where they cannot earn full dole!
Glad to hear that you feel it is of benefit to you.
Best of luck with it.
kadman
Thanks from:
ourtrail
Yesterday, 15:57 #11
Broads.ie
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 150
Adverts | Friends
Job Bridge does have a few great vacancies that I'd love to apply for, but once you scroll to the requirements section you see that very specific experience, degrees, masters or sometimes even PHD's are needed.
It is quite obvious that the majority of the companies are looking for free expertise and don't actually want to train anybody, unless the vacancy is shelf stacking in an shop, and the training for that would last about 4 and a half seconds.
Last edited by Broads.ie; Yesterday at 16:02.
Yesterday, 16:06 #12
Cawk n bawllz
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 42
Adverts | Friends
Quote:
Originally Posted by Broads.ie
Job Bridge does have a few great vacancies that I'd love to apply for, but once you scroll to the requirements section you see that very specific experience, degrees, masters or sometimes even PHD's are needed.
It is quite obvious that the majority of the companies are looking for free expertise and don't actually want to train anybody, unless the vacancy is shelf stacking in an shop, and the training for that would last about 4 and a half seconds.
Well I'm of the impression that there's a whole lot of winking and nodding going on among companies and the government and this whole "internship" thing is a cheap labour scam. Where was Job Bridge when times were good?
If you're a job seeker like myself it's likely you're aware of Job Bridge; the national internship scheme.
Here's the link:
http://www.jobbridge.ie/
On the surface it seems promising. It gives jobseekers and graduates like myself a good training and experience opportunity through a 6 - 9 months work placement in which you keep your jobseekers allowance AND recieve an additional €50 per week while you're on this placement.
But... I see a huge problem with this and maybe some of you have spotted it too.
Wont this undercut the current workforce and worsen the unemployment problem?
Look at it from the perspective of an employer who runs a company.
Business isn't booming, the company is just keeping its head above water and his employees cost €400+ per week. Wouldn't it make sense for him to let a whole bunch of them go and take on these people from Job Bridge for free? He gains profit with his free workforce and only has to pay a proper wage to the higher up more important members of the team. Once the Job Bridge trainees' 9 month placement is over, take on another group!
Through this process, the recession worsens until it acquiesces to the point where all of Ireland becomes a cheap workforce for the heads of these companies. Everyone earns their dole plus 50 a week. And what's even sneakier is that it's not legislation. It's optional. But if you don't take part in it, the social welfare see it as a lack of effort and you risk losing your jobseekers benefit. So we're gently coerced into it.
So my theory sounds crazy but judging by our government's track record it's hardly something which is below them.
I could be totally wrong. There could be a certain stipulation in the scheme which prevents this from happening (I know they only have 5000 places but they could expand that if it's successful) and I've never studied business or economics so there could be some gaping holes in my theory but in this case I would be happy to have it debunked. I've lost all hope and faith in this country and I would like for Job Bridge not to be as sinister as I think it might be...
Well... that was a fair old rant. Thoughts?
Thanks from:
She Devil
27-11-2011, 22:40 #2
Delancey
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,951
Adverts | Friends
Mod: PSNI Recruitment
Take afew minutes to read through this forum - several threads already on the great con job that is Job Bridge and how it displaces real jobs in return for unpaid skivvying.
(3) thanks from:
doovdela, RangeR, wmpdd3
27-11-2011, 23:04 #3
kadman
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,852
Adverts | Friends
Mod: Woodcraft
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cawk n bawllz
If you're a job seeker like myself it's likely you're aware of Job Bridge; the national internship scheme.
Here's the link:
http://www.jobbridge.ie/
On the surface it seems promising. It gives jobseekers and graduates like myself a good training and experience opportunity through a 6 - 9 months work placement in which you keep your jobseekers allowance AND recieve an additional €50 per week while you're on this placement.
But... I see a huge problem with this and maybe some of you have spotted it too.
Wont this undercut the current workforce and worsen the unemployment problem?
Look at it from the perspective of an employer who runs a company.
Business isn't booming, the company is just keeping its head above water and his employees cost €400+ per week. Wouldn't it make sense for him to let a whole bunch of them go and take on these people from Job Bridge for free? He gains profit with his free workforce and only has to pay a proper wage to the higher up more important members of the team. Once the Job Bridge trainees' 9 month placement is over, take on another group!
Through this process, the recession worsens until it acquiesces to the point where all of Ireland becomes a cheap workforce for the heads of these companies. Everyone earns their dole plus 50 a week. And what's even sneakier is that it's not legislation. It's optional. But if you don't take part in it, the social welfare see it as a lack of effort and you risk losing your jobseekers benefit. So we're gently coerced into it.
So my theory sounds crazy but judging by our government's track record it's hardly something which is below them.
I could be totally wrong. There could be a certain stipulation in the scheme which prevents this from happening (I know they only have 5000 places but they could expand that if it's successful) and I've never studied business or economics so there could be some gaping holes in my theory but in this case I would be happy to have it debunked. I've lost all hope and faith in this country and I would like for Job Bridge not to be as sinister as I think it might be...
Well... that was a fair old rant. Thoughts?
That was a fair old rant.
But you have your finger right on the pulse. You only have to look at all the big corporations and multi nationals , that have signed up to take advantage of it.
If these positions are there, why dont they pay a fair wage for them. HP and BT have signed up for the benefit of getting some slaves. Now dont tell me that they need subsidised labour.
kadman
28-11-2011, 11:34 #4
Cawk n bawllz
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 42
Adverts | Friends
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delancey
Take afew minutes to read through this forum - several threads already on the great con job that is Job Bridge and how it displaces real jobs in return for unpaid skivvying.
Ah. I should have had a look around the board first. Yeah I saw some of the comments in other threads. Everyone appears to be strongly against Job Bridge.
So does anyone oppose the notion that Job Bridge is a scam here?
Two of my friends are on it. One of them did it willingly as he's trying to help his career and the other was told that she has to be making some sort of effort to improve her situation or her benefits will be facing review and job bridge was the only available option.
28-11-2011, 12:26 #5
7Sins
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Kilkenny
Posts: 258
Adverts | Friends
I quite enjoyed my interview a few months back with the fas lady, I don't know what her actual title was but she sat behind a desk and told me how to google for their jobs online.
It went something like this...
Her: Have you heard about our jobs bridge
Me: Yea (I know, I'm charming)
Her: The idea is to give people like you a lick of experience and at the end of the 9 months an employer might keep you on (she says smugly as though to say yeaaaaaa right )
*She googles stuff for me*
Her: Oh there's nothing coming up for your career but this sounds similar
Me: It's not similar....ummm....I'm kinda interested in going abroad for work, you guys got anything online like in England or something?
Her: Oh yes we do!
Me: I see, and is that like claiming welfare with a 50 quid bonus too?
Her: Oh no, they would be real jobs!
Me: I see
By the way, I'm 24 and it was 144 a week for me, so this extra 50 that I should've been soooo grateful for just brings it up to the normal dole. Am I wrong to assume that the internships where mostly meant for a below 25 jobseeker?
And what's up with these turnipships for jobs like waitressing and child minding
Thanks from:
RangeR
28-11-2011, 13:15 #6
Cawk n bawllz
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 42
Adverts | Friends
Something which greatly annoys me about Social Welfare and FAS is that they act as if the unemployment problem is due to people not having work experience or not having a good CV and not due to the fact that the country is having its proverbial backside brutally violated by our government, the banks and the IMF.
28-11-2011, 19:51 #7
starrynightsky
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 7
Adverts | Friends
I agree with the comments about it undercutting regular workers. It stinks when you look at the wider picture certainly. For me however it looks like the only way to get experience in a sector notoriously difficult to find work in. I'm hoping to gain as much from it as I put in, and maybe make contacts that will eventually offer me real work. It seems like a long shot but I've been unemployed now for 6 months, countless job applications resulting in nothing. Its basically Job Bridge or death-by-boredom it seems. I might as well give it a try. My issue is rent allowance, since I am moving county to start the internship. I have to have been privately renting for 6 months, which I haven't. The extra 50 doesn't nearly cover the rent, plus I need deposit and rent up front. Does anyone know where I can appeal this? Job Bridge/Fas themselves say its nothing to do with them and I keep getting directed around in circles.
28-11-2011, 23:10 #8
experiMental
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dublin 16
Posts: 845
Adverts | Friends
I don't see the Job Bridge scheme as a means to take advantage of people. If companies want to perform internationally, they have to make sacrifices. In Ukraine, for example, the minimum wage is set at 100 Euro per month. How can it be possible to compete with this?
Maybe the job bridge payment is too low for people with families, who need to retrain for a new career, but that's another story. For those that are single, unemployed and have no mortgages, job bridge is an opportunity.
Poverty is something that most of us have to deal with, in a country that hardly manufactures anything.
Yesterday, 00:11 #9
ourtrail
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 156
Adverts | Friends
I have just recently started the Job Bridge programme and so far things are going great however I do realise I have struck lucky -
1. The business is a couple of hundred yards walk from my house so no travel expenses and is a large, well respected company
2. I live at home so no bills, no rent - except €24 deducted from JSA for living at home
3. Free meals on duty and I am receiving excellent training and hands on experience in the area of work I have my degree in.
I am also in the age bracket whereby I only receive €100 a week which after a €24 deduction for means leaves me with €76 a week so I am very glad of the extra €50. However if my circumstances were even slightly different there is no way I could afford to do it. If I had to travel even a bus ride to the premises or pay rent, the only thing I would be getting is experience which would be dampened by feeling like I was doing it for nothing. It appears the scheme only really benefits those at home of an age where they cannot earn full dole!
Thanks from:
She Devil
Yesterday, 00:26 #10
kadman
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,852
Adverts | Friends
Mod: Woodcraft
Quote:
Originally Posted by ourtrail
I have just recently started the Job Bridge programme and so far things are going great however I do realise I have struck lucky -
1. The business is a couple of hundred yards walk from my house so no travel expenses and is a large, well respected company
2. I live at home so no bills, no rent - except €24 deducted from JSA for living at home
3. Free meals on duty and I am receiving excellent training and hands on experience in the area of work I have my degree in.
I am also in the age bracket whereby I only receive €100 a week which after a €24 deduction for means leaves me with €76 a week so I am very glad of the extra €50. However if my circumstances were even slightly different there is no way I could afford to do it. If I had to travel even a bus ride to the premises or pay rent, the only thing I would be getting is experience which would be dampened by feeling like I was doing it for nothing. It appears the scheme only really benefits those at home of an age where they cannot earn full dole!
Glad to hear that you feel it is of benefit to you.
Best of luck with it.
kadman
Thanks from:
ourtrail
Yesterday, 15:57 #11
Broads.ie
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 150
Adverts | Friends
Job Bridge does have a few great vacancies that I'd love to apply for, but once you scroll to the requirements section you see that very specific experience, degrees, masters or sometimes even PHD's are needed.
It is quite obvious that the majority of the companies are looking for free expertise and don't actually want to train anybody, unless the vacancy is shelf stacking in an shop, and the training for that would last about 4 and a half seconds.
Last edited by Broads.ie; Yesterday at 16:02.
Yesterday, 16:06 #12
Cawk n bawllz
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 42
Adverts | Friends
Quote:
Originally Posted by Broads.ie
Job Bridge does have a few great vacancies that I'd love to apply for, but once you scroll to the requirements section you see that very specific experience, degrees, masters or sometimes even PHD's are needed.
It is quite obvious that the majority of the companies are looking for free expertise and don't actually want to train anybody, unless the vacancy is shelf stacking in an shop, and the training for that would last about 4 and a half seconds.
Well I'm of the impression that there's a whole lot of winking and nodding going on among companies and the government and this whole "internship" thing is a cheap labour scam. Where was Job Bridge when times were good?
Show More
PEACE OUT PEOPLE I WONT PROABABLY BE HERE FOR A WHILE AS ILL PROABLY BE PLACED ON A SCAM WFOR 6 MONTHS WITH NO PERMANENT JOB AT THE END OF IT 
WHY WOULD EMPLOYERS EMPLOY PEOIPLE WHEN THEY CAN TAKE SLAVES IN EVERY 6 MONTHS AND ROTATE PROCEDURE
WE ARE BEING BLACKMAILED THEY CALL IT JOB BRIDGE STEPS TO WORK HERE IN THE NORTH WORKFARE IN THE STATES AND IN REST OF UK
JUST GIVE PEOPLE JOBS IF THERE OUT THERE THE FACT THRE USING SLAVES MEANS THERES JOBS
PLUS DO U REALLY WANT TO WORK FOR AN EMPLOYER THAT USES SLAVES
THE COMPANY I WORK FOR HAS USED SLAVES B4
THE FACT IS IF I DO THE 6 MONTHS AND HE SOSNT OFFER ME A JOB I WIL GO CRAZY THIS IS BLATANT SLAVERY
ITS HAPPENING IN THE 21ST CENTURY
COMPANYS LIKE TESCO ASDA SHOULD FEEL THE WRATH OF REVOLUTION
THE STRORMING OF THE DAIL COULD BE REALITY SOME DAY
THE PEOPLES REVOLUTIONARY ARMY OF IRELAND
YOU KNOW IF IT CONTONUES PEOPLE WILL GET FED UP DONT THINK IT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IN PLACES LIKE LIBYA PHILIPNES ETC IT CAN HAPPEN HERE AND IT WILL
PEACE OUT PEOPLE
WHY WOULD EMPLOYERS EMPLOY PEOIPLE WHEN THEY CAN TAKE SLAVES IN EVERY 6 MONTHS AND ROTATE PROCEDURE
WE ARE BEING BLACKMAILED THEY CALL IT JOB BRIDGE STEPS TO WORK HERE IN THE NORTH WORKFARE IN THE STATES AND IN REST OF UK
JUST GIVE PEOPLE JOBS IF THERE OUT THERE THE FACT THRE USING SLAVES MEANS THERES JOBS
PLUS DO U REALLY WANT TO WORK FOR AN EMPLOYER THAT USES SLAVES
THE COMPANY I WORK FOR HAS USED SLAVES B4
THE FACT IS IF I DO THE 6 MONTHS AND HE SOSNT OFFER ME A JOB I WIL GO CRAZY THIS IS BLATANT SLAVERY
ITS HAPPENING IN THE 21ST CENTURY
COMPANYS LIKE TESCO ASDA SHOULD FEEL THE WRATH OF REVOLUTION
THE STRORMING OF THE DAIL COULD BE REALITY SOME DAY
THE PEOPLES REVOLUTIONARY ARMY OF IRELAND
YOU KNOW IF IT CONTONUES PEOPLE WILL GET FED UP DONT THINK IT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IN PLACES LIKE LIBYA PHILIPNES ETC IT CAN HAPPEN HERE AND IT WILL
PEACE OUT PEOPLE
The idea is good in theory, when graduates are looking for jobs their main problem seems to be that they don't have enough experience (how can they? they have just completed their degree), so many jobs quote: Min experience 3 years, 4 years etc......, with this internship idea they can gain some experience that will help them to find employment in the future.
The problem is now though as you have said Dev is that businesses are abusing the idea and therefore it is not working.
Another thing i have noticed through friends is that there hours are being cut down to 20 hours a week and so. However companies like Tesco and so on are making them work 5 days with 4 hours a week etc......, if they made them do those 20 hours in 3 days they would be able to get some money off the social welfare to subsidise them but not if they work the 5 days. These people would be only on around €10 an hour or a little more so working 20 hours means they are barely getting more than the social welfare so where is the incentive for them to stay working?
Another thing my sister has graduated from DIT in the last year but is struggling to find work. She looked into the possibility of getting the dole but the hassle she got because she is still living at home with my parents and she is under 23 it was pointless. It was to be means tested and anyway all she was entitled to was pennies.
Dev you are right the country is a facking shambles and it will be for quite a while, knowing people who have had their hours cut and those who can't find work i symphatise with them as they are not lazy as some make out and would love to get back into 40hr a week employment. I just hope those who are in employment realise how lucky thy are at the present time.
The problem is now though as you have said Dev is that businesses are abusing the idea and therefore it is not working.
Another thing i have noticed through friends is that there hours are being cut down to 20 hours a week and so. However companies like Tesco and so on are making them work 5 days with 4 hours a week etc......, if they made them do those 20 hours in 3 days they would be able to get some money off the social welfare to subsidise them but not if they work the 5 days. These people would be only on around €10 an hour or a little more so working 20 hours means they are barely getting more than the social welfare so where is the incentive for them to stay working?
Another thing my sister has graduated from DIT in the last year but is struggling to find work. She looked into the possibility of getting the dole but the hassle she got because she is still living at home with my parents and she is under 23 it was pointless. It was to be means tested and anyway all she was entitled to was pennies.
Dev you are right the country is a facking shambles and it will be for quite a while, knowing people who have had their hours cut and those who can't find work i symphatise with them as they are not lazy as some make out and would love to get back into 40hr a week employment. I just hope those who are in employment realise how lucky thy are at the present time.
I was compaling about these strikers earlier they are moaning but there the ones that have a job give me there job ill take it i may go to dublin some day soon the country is a shames
peace out
peace out
As it happens I've just taken on someone as an intern under the scheme. When I interviewed him I told him I was embarrassed to be offereing a job that I wasn't paying for. (I was hit badly by the recession and had many redundancies so this scheme is attractive to me in trying to grow the business again).
Because I have less than 10 employees I am (rightly) restricted to one internship that will last 9 months. i simply cannot afford another employee at the moment and this new intern just finished a 12-month course in my sector and badly needed experience to progress. I have also allocated one of my senior employees to act as mentor for the period.
I'm hoping to develop new areas of business as well as strengthening what we have and the hope is that the intern will be a full-time employee wehn the 9 months are up next summer.
Because I have less than 10 employees I am (rightly) restricted to one internship that will last 9 months. i simply cannot afford another employee at the moment and this new intern just finished a 12-month course in my sector and badly needed experience to progress. I have also allocated one of my senior employees to act as mentor for the period.
I'm hoping to develop new areas of business as well as strengthening what we have and the hope is that the intern will be a full-time employee wehn the 9 months are up next summer.
Post Your Reply
Please login to post a reply.
Wonder
Instance ID: 13539