Punchestown Wed/Thurs

Workrider,i backed her that day and i remember the race clearly.She did everything right and looked in real bother on the crown of the bend.It got a great jump at the last(anything less and it was definitely beat),had the running rail and got a strong drive as well,saying that so did the second ridden by Walsh.It did stick at it well and they pulled a mile clear of the rest,but my abiding memory when they crossed the line was i had to check my underpants to see was it full,i dont usually have to do same when they win impressively.

You have to admit i am having an effect on Mincer,he has made a post without resorting to name calling and it is about racing.

Mincers last post is a bit too graphic and is the reason gambling is not for him.

as i said she came to win her race and thought she'd done enough..this is just off the top of my head haven't looked back over the videos she travels well and maybe she just doesn't find much off the bridle...so think  i'll be backing shadow ellie tomorrow..good luck with what ever you decide to back tomorrow...

Jim Bowie and Smoking Aces worth small interests ew tomorrow.

Thought Four Commanders got a good intro at Limerick. Great jumper. Real chaser. Would he stay 3m? Only 5 so maybe it's too soon to be stepping him up in trip.

Workrider,again no disrespect but i think you are mixing her up,Dazzling susie made all the running in her race,absolutely every yard.She found plenty for pressure,if she hadnt she'd have been beat.Im not saying she will win or get beat tomorrow,it looks open enough to me.

Think Shadow Eile and Dazzling Suzie deserve respect but really believe chaperoned is going to be very hard to beat tomorrow with plenty of hurdle experience under her belt (basically a winner without a penalty), a hugely encouraging flat return last week and getting 8lb or more from the two rivals mentioned above. I think 11/4 represents excellent value as it stands but reasonably hope that could be bigger tomorrow as money comes for those unexposed rivals.

maybe i am mincer..going to have a look at the video of that race.....

you are right mincer ..she made all that day ..i thought at the last ruby was going to get up...i'm mixing her up with  one of harringtons...

i have backed shadow eille ..so no turning back for me now...

dazzing susie non runner

yet again wildmug has no opinion on the thread above comes on twice to slag people.what a waster

Chaperoned really should be good enough to win the 3:20 and i've taken the 9/4. She looked sure to win last time at Fairyhouse in a grade 3 until falling at the 2nd last and was previously 2nd in a grade 2 and was 4th to Unaccompanied at the Christmas festival at Leopardstown. She also ran very well on the flat last week so is obviously in good form. With the weight she receives here she should really be winning today. The horse that i'd be worried off is Elyaadi.

elyaadi's run in longchamp was terrible she ran very freely like a horse with some sort of problem dont think she will be involved today

Yeah but on the best of her form she'd be the one i think could put it up to Chaperoned. However in receipt of 12lbs she should still be good enough to win.

defo a good mare i think she needs a break but as queally dont have much he may be running her for the sake of it

Was told last week that Chasing Shadows will win today. I reckon Gigginstown could have a treble if the money around this morning is anything to go by. Finally the good racing is back

horse in the first drifting

Tomorrow's G3 Buck House Nov Chase could be a carbon copy to the Irish Arkle come next January.

3:45) 268D Buck House Novice S'chase (Grade 3) €17,875.00 2m 2f

1  Blazing Beacon(122) (FFMcGuinness) EJO'Connell 11,01
2  De Valira(122) (JMorrissey) PTownend 11,01
3  Imperial Shabra(116) (POBrady) JLCullen 11,01
4  Lucky William(124) (TCooper) BJCooper 11,01
5  Nakajima Nate (SJHarty) MDarcy 11,01
6  Rathlin (GB) (MFMorris) DNRussell 11,01
7  Shinrock Paddy (PNolan) APCawley(T) 11,01
8  Sorceror (FR)(121) (ALTMoore) PCarberry 11,01
9  Whodoyouthink (OMcKiernan) AndrewJMcNamara 11,01

only two here with cheltenham potential
shinrock paddy and rathlin

as workrider pointed out a cracking mares hurdle for this time of year ....disapointed my selection dazzling suzie a non runner ...hope everything ok .... i d imagine we might see her in down royal for the mares race ......
going to take a watching brief in the race ...it s going to be really interesting to see how the race pans out as looking at some of  the main contenders they all seem to be front runners ....shadow eile made all on her two runs this season , chaperoned was out in front making all when she fell last time over hurdles at fairyhouse , jacksonslady made all the last day when winning at bellewstown ......Elyadi seems to be the only hold up mare ..

I like chasing shadows in the last ... Dessie Hughes is a good man to run them over hurdles and then go back and win a bumper with one ......Stayed on nicely into 4th behind the decent looking Frawley the last day ...the second Flycorn gave the form a boost by winning at Tipp so at around 4/1 , he s a decent each way bet

also surprised to see the money for whybutwhy in the first .... i genuinely believe that he doesn t get home over 2 miles ...... The elliot one is a bit short but if he takes to jumping he should stay and be good enough .....he looked like he was going on at the finish when winning over 1mile 2 f at leopardstown the last day .... good luck all

3.20 Shadow Eile seems on the up,weight concession a serious worry though so a stake saver on the fav.
4.55 Hattons Wood E/W should be up in the van  but had a hard enough race LTO and should be a back to lay at worst.

Elliot wins the first with his other one  20/1 ....his excellency very disapointing ....whybutwhy didn t get home once again

Akiem in the handicap hurdle looks interesting.  Rated 90 off the flat(a few years ago admittedly), finished 4th in the maiden hurdle that frawley won.  The 2nd, flycorn, has won subsequently.  He was backed at fancy prices that day down to around 10 or 12-1 (interestingly, as the stable also had the better fancied flycorn in the race).  A rating of 97 not at all excessive in light of that maiden run.  9s might look v generous by the finish of the race once the ground isn't overly soft.

Dingle,  chasing shadows was 4th to the grey express lto, not frawley.  Perhaps you were looking at Akiem as above.

jaysus pull hard your right sorry ....looking through so many races on the attheraces website  i mixed the two of them up .........I saw the akiem race , what s worrying is that he was withdrawn recently with change in ground conditions ..... it just seems to me todays ground is taking a bit of getting .... thanks again

Dingle,  ya ground def worry, hopefully he gets through it.  All eyes on the grey express here so re chasing shadows!

Top two in the betting too bad to be true,Shadow Eile's jumping was awful.

Shadow Eile and Chaperoned ran absolute shockers

The way Sword Of Light won the second race, he looks a star staying chaser in the making. Absolutely bolted in and could have gone around again. He's one to follow over the coming months & years for sure!

Ran a shocker...sorry to anyone that followed

Pull Hard,we're all big boys here and people are free to follow or not,this is a place to think out loud or if you get a whisper for something.

We'd have no forum if people didn't post up opinions BEFORE the race starts ,as we can all be experts after the event.

What a smashing ride by Ruby on 'Burnt Oil Babe', no disrespect to Barry Cash but he cost her victory on more than one occasion by taking the running up too early.

just back ....shadow eile ran no sort of race....she looked fantastic in the paddock as did jacksonslady and clarach...the only one of the trio to run a reasonable race...shadow eile never jumped and looked beaten after a mile...the fav was out on her feet a long way from home as well..i'd leave the form of this race alone till i've heard explanations from connections...   a very good crowd in attendance...

workrider any word on the track as to why dazzling suzie a non runner ?

Looking at tomorrow's prices, Sailors Warn 5-1, Rathlin 7-2 & to a lesser extent Roi Du Mee 5-2 look overpriced.

I copped that Don, that Barry was jocked off today. Also I was surprised Ruby was only jocked up for the two rides today. The other one for the old man.
I see he is only jocked up for one bad yoke tomorrow. I wonder what's going on for the slow down in mounts.

never heard a thing tbh dinglemick....

She was stiff according to Irishracing.com

Non-Runners Dazzling Susie (stiff)

Had three bets today. Backed Shadow Eile, On the way out( each way bet to nothing and Smoking Aces. I have posted before about how poor I think MP Walsh is. He is a shocking jockey. He puts more horses on the floor than any other jockey riding. Would love to know the stats. This horse would be a 140 horse if trained by Mullins. still feel there is a big handicap in him with the right Jockey on board.

Everything seemed to fall right for Ruby on Burnt Oil today. Cash couldn't do the weight it says on irishracing.com. Still Ruby hit the front 2 out, the same as Barry used to do. Not a huge fan of Mark Walsh but Smoking Aces is very tricky. That trip is Smoking Aces trip. 2m 4/5f. A race like the Leopardstown chase could suit. Used to be the Pierse Chase.

Ruby is very hard to get if you do not have a horse with Tony Martin, Willie or Ted. The biggest problem is Jennifer. She has a very good knowledge of the from book and will not allow him up on anything that does not have a serious chance. It's all about percentage of the pot. I'd say he doesn't want to take the chance of getting injured for 5k maiden hurdle.

did u back sword workrider

no backed first fav ..his excellency ..one to take off the gigginstown winner factory....

he was a bit buzzy early.a few quiet runs now and a nice handicap mark id say.i was just waiting for sword of destiny to turn a cartwheel  at d last!!!

bundle of fun only has to stand up tomorrow his handicap mark is unreal,if the ground looks tacky i'l lay steps of freedom,shinrock paddy should win but he can pull hard on his first run back so will leave him at the price

i've always liked shinrock paddy , and will be tempted to have a bet on him tomorrow....

Bundle of fun does look a good thing! Forget about going to the sales buying unraced horses, go to Rothwell or John Murphy stable and buy any horse that finishes beaten less than 30 lengths in any race and send them to a decent trainer. John Murphy being shown un a very poor light with Dorset Square improving 50 pounds and Bundle of Fun probably d same by this time next year.

Chaperoned, the 11-8 favourite, finished sixth. Rider Robbie Power said of the favourite: "She ran no sort of race, she was very flat, she had a hard race last week and it seems to have taken its toll on her.

Forpady back today. Woudln't be taking the odds on mind over 2m 7f though.

2.45 - 2pts win Steps To Freedom @ 6/4
3.15 - 1pt win Munsaab @ 8/1
3.45 - 2pts win Shinrock Paddy @ 9/4

That's my lot for today, couldn't be arsed typing out reasoning as don't have the time

2.15 Mississippi River,twice gave Rebel Fitz a good race.
2.45 Steps To Freedom,classy horse but the ground a concern.
3.45 Shinrock Paddy to make all.
4.15 LAY Forpadydeplasterer,2ml 7f on this ground first time out at those odds has to be a lay.

worried bout shinrock paddys price thought he would be a lot shorter.it may take a run to take the freshness out of him.rathlin today maybe?

dave,he's won first time out the last two seasons after similar breaks so here's hoping,Rathlin a big danger though.

and ive backed him both times but he takes some grip early he wouldnt want to be tanking down to these fences having said that he is by far the best prospect in the race

hopefully a better day for punters today ......... got no run on my two bets yesterday his excellency and shadow eile ...........
The one i m going to have a good crack off today is Missisippi River ......only one horse to beat and thats the in form meade team s il fonemeno .....
I backed rebel Fitz the last day in Clonmel when he beat Missisippi River but i can honestly say if MP jumped his hurdles a little bit better he would have won imo ...
at 3/1 he worth a good bet each way cause if meades beats him he ll defo be second so only a small loss if you back him each way .....I think he ll win today if his jumping brushes up  bit and normally it should as it was his first run over them at Clonmel ....Also nice to see the yard having an easy winner yesterday with on the way out good luck all

Good sustained support for M River,fav drifting a bit,a good start to the day would be very welcome

after yesterday punchestown most defo agree

Townend didn't seem too keen to get involved there.

bad run continues can seem to get any of mine to run any sort of race

Ah, watched it back and he made a howler at the 5th or 6h flight. Apologies Paul

That mistake knocked the stuffing out of it,probably wouldn't have been good enough anyhow looking where Letter Of Credit finished.

have to lay steps on the ground

Made the mistake at the 3rd hurdle. Lucky to see it as the camera work is terrible at punchestown as usual.

One bet today, 13/2 Clarkey 3.15, 10lb lower over hurdles, ew.

Steps To Freedom did it well considering hating the ground and missing the second last out.

Robbie Power....does he ever give you real confidence when he is coming from behind??....I worried their!

Anybody backing Rathlin.....the scope is very much there. Mouse said he has been very easy on him but he did get the First Lieutenant well schooled before he ran a few weeks ago.

Decisions

backed shinrock paddy for small money...not really a race to get involved in...they say never change your mind ...i was going to back a hit is a hit ...changed my mind and backed ruby for small money...its nice when it works out...

Feck off Ruby.

Yh i just going to bet for half my original stake on Rathlin....Its a tricky race but i feel at 7/2 its a good price to have a hit at. Best of luck!

according to mouse he'll need the run ...how often do we hear that ...

Shinrock Paddy drifting like the proverbial here.

A glorified schooling session for Rathlin there.

Dropped out like he was shot by a Sniper.....

Match fitness for Lucky William a big plus there.

Rathlin jumped really well down the back, clearly not fit. I'd be more encouraged by his performance than Shinrock's.

Rahtlin did jump well i agree

i'm not to sure about that dan, maybe he did need it...but the question for me is ..... will he be as good over fences as he was over hurdles...the juries out on this fellow for me...

Roi Du Mee from the front here could cause an upset...he likes small fields and go from the front. No bet mind you but this jolly looks a professional loser to me

Couldn't back the fav (well in though it is on the weights) over this trip.Don't normally lay shorties but I've taken this one on for small money.

Wd layers.

The old joke about Forpady needing a horsebox to get this trip comes to mind

Master just a masterful ride by Russell....slowed it up and quickened. Missed out on a good bet their but still well up from the giggi horse in the first

Shocker from PWM on bundle of fun. How wide did he want to go?

Idiotic rider....

A real sack of spuds!
Nina and Richie Harding are class acts. Professionals riding as amateurs.

Paddy does a dis-service to amateurs!

I dont understand what he was thinking going so wide on such a open track. Jesus Christ he gave at least 20l away the whole way around. Doesn't have the skill or confidence to move within horses IMO

I backed it, and yes I should know better by now But still, you can't help but feel aggrieved by that sort of a ride. It was pathetic at best.

Never again.

Riding over fences is where you see the real men and women. He hasn't the bottle for it. No hiding place over those fences.

Punchestown and Rubyisgodinthesaddle spot on about Forpadydeplasterer a non staying professional loser.
Rathlin looked gross to my untrained eye so you can forgive him the run,Lucky William is a second season novice and his expierience showed.

Evening guys couldnt get to see Shinrock Paddy today heard it on the radio a few questions if I may

What were the reasons of this massive lay he was top rated hurdler built to be a chaser has never been beaten first time out.

Somehow manages to finish 5th, I did have a decent bet but feel really disheartened that the drift before the race meant either he didnt school well or people just knew something that wasnt in the form book imo

I cannot have 4 horses better than him on form or the fto excuses as he only ever wins in October.

dropped out taken wide to see his fences educational run today pre race betting said as much

Unfortunately on at 9am this morning at 9/4 saw it drift to 7/2 at one stage and was sickened before the race.

Disgusting to be schooling in a top novice chase race run it against toilet opposition he can school round and still win if that was the genuine reason. How did it jump hard to glean any information when your listening on the phone

Paddy Mullins over fences today-I've seen it all now.

fiddled his way around fine was never asked for a big one

Thanks havin

Love the jumps season been waiting two years for this giant to run over the big fences maybe next time I guess just seems strange with his record not to go for glory fto.

He just seems to get worse after this from previous seasons

maybe thats why they are trying to take him handy may have been too revved up last 2 years

Cheers havent thought on that angle guess you dont expect that logic to be exercised in a top quality novice chase.

Thanks for the input appreciate your time