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Rocketfingers
12 Apr 11 13:00
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I know these threads always turn out with the opening poster looking stupid both i have just unloaded a double barrel sawn off onto Shamrock Rovers to beat Bohs this weekend at 2.58 on here !

Unreal price get on lads, tell them the Rockstar sent you ! Blush
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Report Giant Strides April 12, 2011 1:05 PM BST
HALLELUJAH! Laugh
Report workrider April 12, 2011 1:09 PM BST
i think rocket is setting ye up ..proper price should be 5/2 Devil
Report Newmanix April 12, 2011 1:28 PM BST
agreed, poor price for away team
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 2:41 PM BST
Newmanix there is not a hope in hell they will go of this price it's massive, nevermind the price being a poor one. It means that the line in the Asian handicap is draw no bet? There is very little advantage to be gained from playing at home in the league and plus you can be an away team and fav and Shams are certainly favs for this match. If my experience and expertise counts for anything Shamrock Rovers will be -0.25 meaning approx 2.32-2.38. I know sticking my neck out could end in tears i just think it's a serious price.

Anyway as my bookmaker says to me sa·yo·na·ra
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 2:53 PM BST
Traded and Available
Price To back To lay Traded
1.01 €1,418     
1.02 €4     
1.03 €100     
2.10 €294     
2.38 €3     
2.40 €108     
2.54      €100
2.56   €71   
2.58   €188 €200
2.72   €250   
2.80   €241   


Duece traded at 2.58...so ya had €100 on..."shotgun unloaded" indeed...

Al Capone will rest easy tonight, Chuckles...
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 3:00 PM BST
Steeringjoenap hovered up the 2.54 and the 2.56, not a big gambler on 12X (Match odds) i will admit but that close to €200 large surely dome sort of respect is warranted my man?!
Report Giant Strides April 12, 2011 3:29 PM BST
When did they last win in Dalymount Rf?
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 4:04 PM BST
you could only have €150 in total, laddie...

you can't have had another ton at 2.54 based on the turnover stats above...
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 5:00 PM BST
Yes and €50 somewhere else steeringjobnap

Giant Sap you know as well as i do you've had an excellent team up until this year, one of the best teams ever to play in the league probably. So i take stats like that with a pinch of salt. Anyway the DNB was excellent value this morning, but most people don't bet that way so that why i mentioned this..
Report Giant Strides April 12, 2011 5:07 PM BST
I suggest you cease altering my user name.
I don`t address you by anything other than Rf.
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 5:18 PM BST
Laugh

Jeez relax, i always know i've destroyed you in an argument when you result to bringing up avatar changing. I think you altered my name 3 days ago just but you obviously forgot about "smellyfingers"?????

Anyway betting is a matter of opinions thats why i like hearing other views but the 6/4 with one firm is very big value imo Giant strides.
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 6:11 PM BST
I'm not sure which is sadder; the fact that :-

(a) you ramped a bet that you didn't bet at the price; OR
(b) you attempted to then "gee-up" your prowess on an anonymous forum; OR
(c) didn't understand fully BF's matching convention - then attempted to convey
    "another €50 elsewhere" when this was pointed out to you...; OR
(d) your repeated, continued spamming of this forum as some type of "big cheese" punter,
    to impress anonymous people, whom you have never meet before.

you remind me of the chaps who manage to miraclously "green" their "tips" IR when they lose, but never when they win.
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 7:35 PM BST
What the hell are you on about man? Where did i ever say i had €200 on with BF? read my post again please!

By the way how sad and pathetic are you to write rubbish you have no clue of? You've not even read my posts you arrogant clown. I can tell you what i have hell a lot more than €200 on the game as i stated, i don't bet match odds normally can you read English or are you that thick?
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 7:59 PM BST
So now I'm thick?

Let me refresh your memory...

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From ordinary 12X odds, looking for a link or any lab system that can help me with this. I used to use a page but i think it is slightly off.

steeringjobnap Joined: 20 Oct 10
Replies: 545 30 Mar 11 11:44   
(1.)    Take the inverse of the prices against each outcome in the Correct Score [CS] matrix;

(2.)    Sum these resultant probabilities for each outcome i.e. draw = prob [1-1] + prob [2-2], etc

(3.)    This will give match odd pricing;

(4.)     Amend step 2 above to calculate AH lines, by removing the impact of the handicap from each price i.e. the sum of probabilities for the home team “minus 1”, should exclude the impact of the probability of a 1-0 scoreline, etc.

(5.)    Use linear interpolation for the quarter/three-quarter lines, from the half-ball/level ball pricing, etc

HTH

Rocketfingers Joined: 20 May 10
Replies: 1444 30 Mar 11 12:12   
Cheers mate, thanks
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 8:12 PM BST
Yes and i said thank you for that, but whats your point? Where are you going with this attack on me? What i was using was off a little. Look at it yourself (below) it's not bad but it's not exactly right, well i don't feel it spot on anyway. I have a spreadsheet which is better but you need to work out the supremacy.

http://www.onlinecasinohelp.com/compare2.htm
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 8:14 PM BST
PS

"If my experience and expertise counts for anything Shamrock Rovers will be -0.25 meaning approx 2.32-2.38. I know sticking my neck out could end in tears i just think it's a serious price."

At the current M/O prices, the AH is not a [minus] quarter-ball.

I hope this helps, etc.
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 8:16 PM BST
PPS

I learned to count at a young age; and thus, do not require online help.
Report GANT007 April 12, 2011 8:18 PM BST
I think the poor chap is gone way beyond online help.............
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 8:26 PM BST
LOL any chance you read my post i already said it was DNB line you may have learned to count but obviously reading English was not a strong point. If you read my post correctly you will see i said the price will end up at that which is an even money -0.25. That why i said the 2.58 or the 2.50 was value.

What you're doing is taking what i said and twisting it to suit you're argument, the fact of the matter is the bet is a value bet at 6/4 [;)]

Time will prove who is right me or you Laugh
Report thegalwayman April 12, 2011 8:26 PM BST
Bit rich of you to lecture anyone on anything steeringjobnap when you didn't know that the champion chase and arkle were run over the same trip only a few days ago.
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 8:27 PM BST
" you're argument" ?

Be the Holy God...and he tells me English isn't my strong point...
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 8:30 PM BST
Thanks TGM.

From one fisherman to another, I thought you might like that...
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 8:41 PM BST
Steeringjobnap obviously you can work out pretty much anything from a full correct score market but you're clueless lol, you did not know the champion chase and the arkle were run over the same distance, Laugh oh man i'am obviously dealing here with a real shrewd character i can tell. We'll see who was right about this match me or you, i know where my money is. [;)]
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 8:41 PM BST
Steeringjobnap obviously you can work out pretty much anything from a full correct score market but you're clueless lol, you did not know the champion chase and the arkle were run over the same distance, Laugh oh man i'am obviously dealing here with a real shrewd character i can tell. We'll see who was right about this match me or you, i know where my money is. [;)]
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 8:44 PM BST
If I try really hard, I think you're stupid enough to extend this thread to 2 pages.
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 8:52 PM BST
You're caught badly here Steeringjobnap i can see why you don't want this too continue, you'd try to come across as a bit of a know it all, then galwayman just gives a good example why you are in fact clueless. I am going to look at that formula you posted it up, if it's right i know it was a copy and paste from another betfairian Laugh

It sounds spot on to be fair so i am thinking it's not yours [;)]
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 8:56 PM BST
You simply are the gift that keeps on giving.

So you're [or is that "your"?] going to "look at the formula" I posted?

Well, bully for you!

Try not to strain that ameba [I'm sure you'll correct my spelling...] of grey matter too much.
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 8:58 PM BST
P.S. Then You have a pop at TGM for being a fishman and simply pointing out your stupidity ! all very convenient for you that the TGM is now deemed a fisherman and quite ironic after the amount of rubbish you've just posted. We'll see on Friday night will Shamrock Rovers go off 0 or -0.25 and then we'll see who is the real bluffer !!
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 9:01 PM BST
Hang on - let me log into my GalwayMan account & I'll reply to you as him.

2 secs lad...
Report Rocketfingers April 12, 2011 9:13 PM BST
Good night you're off your rocker. By the way, you calculation of the Asian handicap only works when you have a full correct score market, which is basically on the day of the match for most matches, which means it is not far of useless to a certain extent, not as clever as you like to think as you've discovered on this thread. [;)]
Report steeringjobnap April 12, 2011 9:22 PM BST
Re-reading this thread has amused me greatly; I am naturally disappointed that it fell short of the "2 pager" I had hoped for; I do not however, doubt, that you will be immediately back upon here on Friday night, screaming like an idiot at someone you have never meet before..."IT WAS A -0.25 SHOT...SO THERE!"
Report JulioJulio April 13, 2011 10:44 AM BST
Steering - do you actually have any opinion on the game?

The lad has come on and posted up an early fancy to help other forumites - your first contribution to the thread was to come out with some smart comment about his stake. If he only bets an average stake of a tenner then €100 is a lot to him. That's why tipping sites use a points system rather than a stake.

The line in Asia opened up 1.96 -0 and is now in to 1.73 so there's obviously someone else betting it for quite large amounts.

I agree with him that Rovers at 2.58 look a good bet - Bohs haven't been great this season and Rovers looked very good up in Sligo with a weakened side so should be more like 2.3.

I used to post on this forum before but people like you have just made it a total jokeshop - you refer to him "screaming like an idiot at someone you have never met before" - what about you coming on to this thread and offering no opinion other than trying to belittle someone you have never met before. Pathetic.
Report Tony Fenton April 13, 2011 12:09 PM BST
Julio ploughing into the Asian imo. [;)]

Great win for Van Summeren Sunday. Mad race.
Report JulioJulio April 13, 2011 1:30 PM BST
Ah I was sick Tony! I'd a decent bet on Hushovd but said to a lad in work that Van Summeren would go up the road for him because he was one of the top riders in the Tour de France stage over the cobbles last year. When Cancellara sat up and the others wouldn't ride I just knew he was going to win.
It was one of the best bike races I've seen though!
Report thegalwayman April 13, 2011 2:16 PM BST
I have never really engaged in the whole 'fishing' business.

I'd appreciate it if you did not try to pass yourself off as me. I am a forum legend. You are a nobody.
Report steeringjobnap April 13, 2011 2:48 PM BST
TGM,


My colleagues in the Risk/Compliance/Auidt function of a well-known Irish bank would not concur
with your assessment of being a "nobody"...
Report Tony Fenton April 13, 2011 4:50 PM BST
They are tough men Julio. Those cobbles arent for the faint hearted.

Unlucky with Hushovd. What was going on with the 2 lads having a go at each other in the chasing group?
Report Giant Strides April 13, 2011 10:04 PM BST
I see we have more Rovers fans joining in here.
Rovers should be 2.3 Laugh
The last time they won in the home of Irish football was 2007. 6 games ago and they have only managed 1 goal in 5 games since. That was in `08 and none under O`Neill. Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Rovers will drift to around the 2.8 mark pre ko.
Report workrider April 13, 2011 10:07 PM BST
put up that price giant and i will gladly accommodate you very quickly .....
Report Rocketfingers April 13, 2011 10:15 PM BST
Giant i said 2.32 - 2.38 i reckon the price will be, still a bit to go but i believe it will come. They are overdue a win there as well Giant you know this as well as me  LaughCool

Will you go Giant?
Report Giant Strides April 13, 2011 10:20 PM BST
I haven`t bet on a Bohs match for years wr so no thanks.
I`m sure you`ve noticed too that there are layers out to get you lot this season wr. You have drifted pre ko to considerably bigger prices than the books are offering.
Report Giant Strides April 13, 2011 10:22 PM BST
Yes Rf. With bells on.
Bring on the Rovers! Devil
Report Rocketfingers April 13, 2011 10:23 PM BST
Thats very true GS, i would say they have drifted each match pre kick off and if the same boys come in they will drift again. But i reckon the initial price they have been offered at is too big this time. But we will see, Very good and valid point GS though.
Report workrider April 13, 2011 10:27 PM BST
giant long may the layers remain so ...i've backed rovers in every game so far this season , so am not complaining...
Report Giant Strides April 13, 2011 10:31 PM BST
3 I remember were Evens 1st game against Dundalk v 8/13 ish.
Also 1/2 in Drogheda v 4/11 and in Derry I backed them at around 2.5 when you were no bigger than 6/5 elsewhere.
I`m not saying Rovers aren`t favourites od wont win but you`ve got the price all wrong lads.
Report workrider April 13, 2011 10:35 PM BST
i honesty think anything over evens is a good price for us on fri ...if we play the way we did against sligo we will be unstoppable this season...
Report Rocketfingers April 13, 2011 10:46 PM BST
Pats as well Giant 1.90 - 2.20, pretty sure they drifted against us as well at home in the league match (just checked v small drift). They won't go off 2.80, i still think what i said will hold true as they were so impressive v us live on TV this may be the first time we may see them bet. But no Twigg could mean these guys are opposed again, it will be interesting.
Report JulioJulio April 14, 2011 11:41 AM BST
I think Bray at 1.75 or so are the bet of the week.

Drogheda were awful last week and I sure the Hooperatzi will confirm the same about them the week before. They beat Bray in the League Cup a few weeks ago but I'm not sure Bray would've been too bothered with that. Alan McNally is also probably still out for Drogs.
Report Dan Chipowski April 15, 2011 9:25 PM BST
1-1 result.

Incredible ending with Rovers equalising 3 mins into injury time with a superb header from a corner.
Report Newmanix April 15, 2011 9:27 PM BST
robbery
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