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03 Apr 11
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Was at the Curragh today and thought this race will throw many winners and maybe a few top class horses.Four horses backed for serious money Marksmanship,Notable Graduate,Zanughan and Parkers Mill and they gave the two leaders Its Freezing and Brown Butterfly a healthy lead.Marksmanship was first to chase followed by Notable Graduate,Zanughan and Parkers Mill appeared to be just looking on,the way they closed the gap was visually impressive especially Zanughan and Parkers Mill.The winner Marksmanship was backed from 8/1 into 7/2 landing another gamble for Ballydoyle following Empowering backed from 12/1 into 11/2 at Leopardstown last sunday,they seem to have learned some new gambling tricks they normally have to trade at short prices but they got on big money at prices they are not used to,he is destined for higher things.Notable Graduate will definitely win his maiden maybe when upped to a mile and a half.Zanughan is listed class at least and was given an easy introduction.I dont like using the term not trying but Parkers Mill appeared to get an educational and to me he is a certainty to win next time out,it will be interesting to look back on this maiden in a few months time to count the winners that have emerged from this hot maiden.
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Wholly agree Wildman, I think we may have seen a classic winner, but not a Derby winner.
a step up in distance for zanughan and he's a cert ...been shoved along turning in... he went inside then took him out and finally back in again .he flew home ....i also thought the winner ran a touch green inside the last furlong and there is more to come from him ...
Might not pay to get too carried away with it. The time was over 2 seconds slower than Unaccompanied. Torphichen also almost 2 secs quicker later on.
The winner was in the best place possible to exploit the fractions. Good ride.
The winner was in the best place possible to exploit the fractions. Good ride.
Excellent points Giant Strides was unaware of the time,it is an old failing of mine to rely on my initial impression of a race.I also agree with your point about the winner being best positioned thats why the two i liked most were Zanughan and Parkers Mill.
makes the performance of the Weld horse more meritable off the slow pace
I'd be in Neills camp here. I think the slowish time endorses the strength of the performances of the horses mentioned. The two that kicked clear early in the straight were at a serious tactical advantage. They be worth taking on if they go off a short price the next day I think. Oxxs was probably the most impressive performance in the race, but the winner was very good too.
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Official Curragh times yesterday are, once more, wrong (more wrong than usual). Corrected times will appear as usual in Timeform Perspective
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Official Curragh times yesterday are, once more, wrong (more wrong than usual). Corrected times will appear as usual in Timeform Perspective
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and the Ballydoyle boys knew they had a real good one too by heavily punting this one.
As said it is likely to be found to have been a real strong maiden with maybe 4 or 5 winners coming out of it.
As said it is likely to be found to have been a real strong maiden with maybe 4 or 5 winners coming out of it.
A follow up from that tweet I posted earlier from the head of h`capping at Timeform.
The times on the left are from Timeform. Those on the right are the official course times as printed in the RP.
1m 5.93s 1m 5.93s
1m 35.36s 1m 33.71s
1m 19.21s 1m 18.61s
1m 32.03s 1m 30.90s
2m 25.34s 2m 24.26s
2m 27.63s 2m 26.91s
3m 56.90s 3m 56.80s
2m 25.70s 2m 22.67s
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The times on the left are from Timeform. Those on the right are the official course times as printed in the RP.
1m 5.93s 1m 5.93s
1m 35.36s 1m 33.71s
1m 19.21s 1m 18.61s
1m 32.03s 1m 30.90s
2m 25.34s 2m 24.26s
2m 27.63s 2m 26.91s
3m 56.90s 3m 56.80s
2m 25.70s 2m 22.67s
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What the fook is going on here?
There`s discrepancies and then there`s embarrassing.
How hard is it to time a race? Obviously very if you`re involved in Irish racing!
JOKERS.
There`s discrepancies and then there`s embarrassing.
How hard is it to time a race? Obviously very if you`re involved in Irish racing!
JOKERS.
Tipperary tomorrow with DKW's colt Notable Graduate down to run... might give further insight into the value of this maiden.....
Impressive ...and the second got a luvly intro from Jonny...a good night for punters all in all
Why are there so many apologists on this forum for jockeys?
I find it baffling tbh.
I find it baffling tbh.
That Zanughan runs at the weekend and got a OXX Special at the Curragh last time
Giant Strides ..if your are putting me in the "apologists for jockeys" basket please note my POST dated 14 Apr.22.37 I was being
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Sarcastic
Zanughan very nice winner and Its Freezing ran well for Fran and Jesse H....
Without being too controversial, it was pretty workmanlike for a 2/5 shot imo. The second came from further back on debut.
As a matter of interest what was your take on that ride at Tipp JTOTDL?
As a matter of interest what was your take on that ride at Tipp JTOTDL?
I don't think GS that you are being in any way controversial in your summary of Zanughan's win probably a fair assessment....as for the Tipperary run of the second to Notable Graduate ...very similar to Zanughan's run behind Markmanship although JP was pushing along a fair bit on the last bend, stayed onto finish well, with kid-glove treatment late on,this horse has a big Curragh entry in July..got some work to do to make that engagement but in any event all aboard next time out..GS nobody seems to take a bit of notice of the top stables contiually using the racecourse for educational purposes
very similar to Zanughan's run behind Markmanship although JP was pushing along a fair bit on the last bend, stayed onto finish well, with kid-glove treatment late on,this horse has a big Curragh entry in July..got some work to do to make that engagement but in any event all aboard next time out..GS nobody seems to take a bit of notice of the top stables contiually using the racecourse for educational purposes
Indeed. Once you reach the top rank you`re allowed a lot more leeway.
My issue with it was not the lack of effort made late on, but the blatant decision to not let Kasanka go forward from the stalls when she looked quite capable of doing so. She was never going to win not because she wasn`t good enough but because she was asked to pick up from a position she should never have been in to begin with.
It was to the fillies credit that she actually settled despite being reined back.
I expect she will turn out to be better than all those Aga Khan animals that have been discussed here recently.
My issue with it was not the lack of effort made late on, but the blatant decision to not let Kasanka go forward from the stalls when she looked quite capable of doing so. She was never going to win not because she wasn`t good enough but because she was asked to pick up from a position she should never have been in to begin with.
It was to the fillies credit that she actually settled despite being reined back.
I expect she will turn out to be better than all those Aga Khan animals that have been discussed here recently.
Kasanka one to keep an eye on so GS..what a great record this stable has with the fillies..and I agre with you as she did break well and as you say was reined back... and a long ways back goin down the back straight..
Kasanka got a good word in today's Racing Post from trainer(Mr. Oxx)
Read that.
"I`d expect her to come on a lot".
Get away John. You don`t say!
"I`d expect her to come on a lot".
Get away John. You don`t say!
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