Gardai

have heard similar stories to this , seems like its a common occurence

they are**bags..plain and simple..you have to be a cnut to be a pig.

yeah so have I toby but used to take it with a pinch of salt so to speak but my brother is fuming and I can't blame him, some cnuts just love the power buzz

bad form from the gardai.majority of them are ok but some are evil b@stards.

get onto joe duffy this tuesday and shame them

they avoid the real problems everywhere and pick on the easy prey. Shame on them.

she should have said she was a TRAVELLER theyd say drive on!!...law abiding people are the only ones guards are interested in..some one who will pay fines and ban gardai are the worst...

Some of them are absolute pr1cks.....not all of them, but some of them.

Went in to get a passport photo signed a while back and the sour faced cow of a 'woman' behind the counter didn't make it a pleasurable experience.

That is awful.

Disgraceful. Some of them wouldnt let a fly land on **. Common sense, is not all the common.

Was once told I was tall enough to be a guard but not low enough!

shud have had the tax and insurance sorted befor hand its not hard to do only a phon call fair fecks 2 the gards

lol....lucky it wasnt timberman

think you will find that there are a % of pr1cks in most walks of life

filth!

Really decent people who love to pay there way nightclubs,takeaways etc.The Traffic Corp are the bravest bunch of people you could ever meet.The plain clothes guys cut a fine dash in those Armani suits.An allround great crew we are lucky to have them.

one last chance 02 May 02:14
shud have had the tax and insurance sorted befor hand its not hard to do only a phon call fair fecks 2 the gards

if you learned to read properly you inbred cnut , i agree. My problem is with leaving a pregnant women standing for 20 mins in the dark at the side of the road. Now run along as mammy has the bath ready for you and your sister

What sort of responce did you get from the station they are based at.
Leaving an individual alone especially someone 5 months pregnant is not on.

haven't being near the station, my brother is working today and then going down to cop station to sort it out. will let you know if anything is said mate

they will refer you to the ombudsman, who will respond by telling you she broke the law , at least thats what happened in the previous incident i referred to

yeah they will toby, would be interested in the response to the process that allows a women to be left on her own.

It's almost certainly the case the Gardaí are under orders from the Sergeant or whoever, which in turn comes down the line, to have zero tolerance in certain areas. Ie find a car with no tax AND no insurance and take it on the spot. It is the case that driving around with DISPLAYING the discs is an offence as well as not having them, I think. Tbh, if I was driving around in a car with no discs and it was taken from me I'd be annoyed but recognise it was an acceptable consequence. It's not as if she was 8 months and bursting. Might be difficult to tell at 5 months!

If it was a checkpoint, surely the checkpoint didn't just get up and move the second the car was seized? There would have been Gardai around?

If so it's not quite the same thing, the other choice in that case is giving her the car back, which as I say they might have been under orders not to.

Driving an uninsured car in a very, very serious road offence no matter what the circumstances.

she probably got gobby with the law enforcer to be fair.

they obviously have little to be doing, any sort of real crime and they would have ** in their pants, wasters.

Policing the roads benefits everyone. Your insurance premiums for example.

BraveInca2006. 02 May 16:08
Driving an uninsured car in a very, very serious road offence no matter what the circumstances.


the car was insured, they hadn't gt a disc displayed,

So the Gardai were at the checkpoint with her when she waited yeah?

My apologies. Misread.

no problem brave inca. I wasn't there but one of the gardai took the car ( to the pound, by the way it still isn't there ) and the other guard went off in the patrol car. My brother plays GAA and there is a copper that plays in the team, he said he went down to the pound today and the car has not arrived yet lol

Something doesn't add up there.

you sure they were gardai buddy? :)

yep :)

Well she was right to be stopped n prosecuted so the issue is should they have left a 5 month prenant woman on the road, They cant leave her drive away uninsured and its not up to the gardai to phone a taxi , its ugly but for the gardai its awkward too

It was a checkpoint. Either the checkpoint got up and left the second the car was taking or the OP isn't telling the truth.

ricky what the fcuk would i gain by lying? ffs get a grip

So the checkpoint upped and left the second they seized the car? Both cars left?

yep ricky

Seems a bit strange that the checkpoint left as soon as they seized the car.

Very strange indeed. I doubt this incident happened. Make a complaint to the ombudsman if you feel victimised.

I thought that the normal procedure at these check points when they seize cars is that a recovery truck comes to take the car away and they continue manning the checkpoint.

I haven't been victimised, it didn't happen to me. She was left for 20 mins AFTER the checkpoint was gone ( two gardai ). Apparently it is perfectly normal for a guard to drove the vechicle to the pound ( only found this out today ). I was only relaying what happened, I have nothing to gain, so take what you want out of the thread

far fetched story.

Dont know whether the story is true or not but youll hardly come on here with a piece of fiction. Inlaws are in the force and the greatest fcuks seem to deviate to the GS or so they tell me!! Frankly their motorbike corps look for blood based on their cavalier and irresponsible attitude towards other road users when they are babysitting a dignitary. Matter of time b4 one of them cause severe damage with a major cover up to follow.

Absolute drivel observe, drivel.

Right ricky the next time they pass you in a 30m zone doing 80 let me know how you're comfortable with that approach on their part

I've yet to see a Garda escort steam through a residential area, have to say but that aside, they're trained professional motorcycle drivers who do it every day of the week. There was a Garda killed on a charity motorcycle a few years ago, I can't remember that last time there was an accident involving them.

Ricky butcher as far as i know gardai cars have a very high incident rate, theses facts were published a couple of years ago, i dont remember the numbers, garda cars are rammed , in high speed chases and with the high mileage they do the odds they do have a lot of accidents

Are you on drugs? We're talking about their motorcycle corp.

I think Ricky is a guard or a guard lover, getting very defensive.....

She should have had the insurance disk displayed.

If not then she should have left the car at home.

I'm sure it was an annoying experience but not as traumatic as the OP is making out.

Not the only one here who found the story strange. There are a lot of arseholds in the Gardaí, I'm just not into slating every one of 14,000 people because I've a chip on my shoulder. As I said if I drove around no discs displayed whatsoever I'd know beforehand what the risks were, ie the car being taken on the spot. I'd know it's a strong possibility if I was stopped. I wouldn't whinge about it after.

Suppose something happened to the woman after the Gardai have left her on the side of the road on her own....suppose she was assaulted or severely injured ...would the Gardai be liable?

sounds a funny story to me...either it didn't happen or it didn't happen as stated.

or what if an alien spaceship came down and abducted her..those feckin guards.

why didnt yer brother get a taxi instead of dragging his 5 months pregnant wife out of bed in the middle of the night in a car with no insurance disk? maybe hes a guard!!

End of story, if it was an offence or not thats not the case, any decent person let alone a guard should not leave a pregnant woman on the side of the road in the dark!!

I agree Ricky is a guard or he is boning a guard.

So anyone who obeys the law is either a Garda or is boning one !!

Lol

Neither is true and far more than me are pointing out that this is a crap non story. Moral of the story: don't get your 5 month old girlfriend to ride out in the middle of the night to collect you in a car with no discs whatsoever then come on and moan about being wronged in some way at a checkpoint supposedly that upped and left about 1 minute after the car was seized. Get a taxi next time.

guard in question probably had no lift home, hence when finishing up shift grab a car and drive yourself home, so car in someones driveway rather than pound.

Yes obeying the law is leaving a pregnant woman on the side of the road! Well done to that officer her deserves a promotion.

http://www.gardaombudsman.ie
Until people like your brother/sister-in-law complain and take it further, nothing will happen.
Make an official complaint.

You're right there should be different laws for pregnant women

Thats the travellers sorted then

ricky, trust me on this point. I live pretty close to Aras An Uchtarain and we get a lot of diginitaries being taken at high speed for some reason towards the airport by the motor cycle corps. Now the speed limit on the road close to my home is 50km but when these convoys numbering at least half dozen *****wannabees perform their tricks they are bursting that limit and bullying all other motorists and pedestrians who dare get in their way. Frankly their irresponsible, dangerous and frightening behaviour is the most dreadful activity I've ever witnessed from a group who are supposed to be looking after public safety. This is a terrible thing to say but I sometime wish that one of them has a mishap caused by the excessive speed and then at least their might be some proper review of what exactly they are trying to achieve by their actions.

BraveInca2006. Joined: 14 Mar 06
Replies: 212 02 May 10 16:08   


Driving an uninsured car in a very, very serious road offence no matter what the circumstances.

not 2 me it aint.

a lot of people missing the point here. whether the car was insured/not insured /taxed or not or had discs displayed or not and whether the lady was not pregnant/five months pregnant or eight months on the guards should not have left her alone on the m50 or any other road for that matter.if they had to take the car so be it but why not bring her to the station with them where she would have at least been safe and could be collected by her partner/taxi or whatever.the decent thing would have been to bring her home. the guards are paid by the taxpayer to protect the people of the state not put them in danger.hitch hiking is not allowed on motorways for safety reasons and to think that the gardai would leave anyone in this position beggars all reason.

These kind of stories only surprise people who have otherwise always thought the Gardai where always a fair and good organisation all the way through.
    Other unfortunates knows the other side only too well. They will disrespect you, beat you, lie, cheat you and laugh in force when fining you in court. Do any of these things to them and they will lock you up and make an example of you.
    Did the woman ask for a lift?

I had a court case for a minor driving incident,the prosecuting Garda was a no show in court and the case was struck out.
I got a letter in the post telling me I was fined 250 euro for the offence,I ended up back in the Court with a Judicial review  to challenge the fine and subpeonaed the judges book (the one with copies of all the charges) from the day in court and it had S/O on the charge sheet but had been scribbled out by someone[>o].

The Judge fudged it and said my character was unblesmished as I had no convictions (42 years old at the time) and said he couldn't contradict a Garda either and said he couldn't work out how the S/O was scribbled out.

To cut a long story short the Judge rescheduled the case to
basically start the whole prosecution again from the start.

I showed up in court(it's now 2 years after the first appearance)the Garda didn't show up-struck out again.
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The Garda Ombudesman didn't exist back then

Ombudsman.

You committed the minor offence not the Guard, thats why you were in court in the first place. What offence did the Guard commit.

You committed the minor offence not the Guard, thats why you were in court in the first place. What offence did the Guard commit.
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The Garda showed up at the Judicial review and swore on oath that he was in the court for the first appearance and I wasn't which was the exact opposite of the truth.So that would be perjury by him (or me if I'm making this all up).I don't know his motive but he was willing to and did swear he was there when he wasn't.


(The minor offence was failure to obey a road signal-an arrow on the road)

Whats your recourse on that punch? You were basically accused of perjury

McBreartys, d pigs made their lives hell, nothing worse than a bad pig

i have never met a good one, rotten to the core!

Whats your recourse on that punch? You were basically accused of perjury

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Like I said the Judge wouldn't call it either way,I was advised by a Senior Councel that a trip to the High Court was the only recourse if I wanted to take it to the next stage but he said Judges are very reluctant to overturn each others verdicts for obvious reasons and if I lost the case I would have to pay everybody's costs which at the time were about 50K.Nobody ever explained the S/O scribbled out on the sheet.

It ended up struck out for a second time when it was reentered and I never heard another thing,my family Solicitor took the case Pro-bono  all the way through as he was a friend of the family for a long time and he knew there was a number being done on me.

Its unfortunate that our legal system is such a horses arse that you'd have to go to that kind of trouble to be justified. I suppose that's part of the reason the Garda was so quick to lie knowing that there was little or no chance of reprecussions.


Your solicitor seems a decent sort, most of them are pompous prats.