Solwhit 6.4

Crazy as it may sound, some people actually fancy the 2nd fav tgm.
Go Native may make them (and me) look a fool but we're not sold yet.

Fair enough, you don't agree. But if Starluck could comeback at Go Native like he did at Kempton, then surely Solwhit and the likes will be coming back at him up the hill! And as I say, if Solwhit's got something to chase, he'll keep finding until he goes by them, Davy Russell's words after the Festival Hurdle at Christmas.

I agree Viva.
Solwhit was done for toe in the Fighting Fifth but had the race been another 2 furlongs I think he'd have got there.

Go Native had burst that gets him clear. Did it in his last 3 races (can't count Down Royal) but I just think that one better than Medermit can outstay him up the hill. Of course we may not have seen the best of Go Native yet but I'm pretty confident that he doesn't have a whole lot more.

The stats are against Go Native as very few horses go onto win the Champion Hurdle the year following their win in Supreme Hurdle and Punjabi failed to collect the £1m bonus when he fell last year. So something will come and rescue the sponsors of the bonus and the bookies.

I don't think Solwith will win either as he has had a hard campaign and has not been tested in Cheltenham.

I think Punjabi will go close and I'll wait for BG to pick his ride before backing him.

Does nobody else feel that a win for Solwhit would be a sickener for the integrity of racing? EMI, maybe a messenger for this stable deserves to be shot. Any thoughts?

:) Good luck to anyone who has backed the horse, but I hope he loses, purely and simply due to the trainer.

Long shadow - are you Hen Knight? Solwhit has had 3 runs so far this season so hardly a touch campaign. He had 5 runs before Christmas last season - some of them mightnt have taken a lot out of him - and he was still able to win the Red Mills, Aintree Hurdle and Punchestown in the second half of the season. This obsession with molly-coddling horses for Cheltenham really could become detrimental to the rest of the season.

Not many branches on your family tree Elbows.

He's fast and contrary to popular belief, he does have a turn of foot. Look at the acceleration after the last in the Morgiana

I'm sorry but I will have to pull you up on that one. Solwhit does not have a turn of foot. He is a relentless galloper and in the Morgiana he galloped away form Muirhead (who was up and down in the one spot and hasn't done a stroke all year) and Hurricane Fly (debatable about how good he really is). He has a serious constitution and a good travelling speed (aided by accurate jumping) but he has no Grade 1 kick like Go Native has. He obviously isn't slow but there are several horses with more gears than him.

Cailin Deas, you back on the DJ circuit? Whats the reasoning behind alternating between monikers and genders? The point made with regard to connections is a legitimate one.

progressive winner of 5 group 1's and i agree will track the main bunch and has a great chance will have stamina to boot when they are crying, doesn't have to be a bog atall like.

sometimes people try too hard to pick out the winner whens its right in front of your eyes -SOLWHIT wins :)

SUBLIMITY, winner of the 2007 Smurfit Kappa Champion Hurdle, has been ruled out of this year's race with a leg injury.

Sublimity disappointed in last season's renewal, but had been "working better than ever" after a wind operation by vet Ben Brain this time around, finishing second to Go Native in the WBX.com Fighting Fifth Hurdle and two placings behind Solwhit at Leoparstown.

Those displays left the 10-year-old as short as 12-1 with Boylesports to become the first since Comedy Of Errors in 1975 to regain the Champion Hurdle crown and trainer Robbie Hennessy had been delighted with his final serious gallop at Leopardstown last Sunday.

However, after a routine canter earlier this week Sublimity took "the first lame step of his life" and a vet examination confirmed Hennessy's fears.

Huge blow for the Hennessy's that.

Thats why I hate Ante post.

Davy Russell was well pleased after racing today.

1) He is on Solwhit a likely winner of the Champion Hurdle.

2) He had a winner today. Cass Bligh.

3) He was looking at a Gold Cup prospect in the parade ring after the last. First Lieutenant.

4) And finally he had no Cheltenham preview to go to tonight!!

Must be none on so. He's on every other panel :)

solwhit great price

think solwhit is extremely vulnerable to a turn a foot from his talented rivals...is probably a good place lay imho

Everything ok with Solwhit?? 7 now and nt much on de lay side

7.4 last price matched

perhaps its just down to the weather drying up the course

I'd say so pf, this was always likely.

Just need EMI to confirm he's a nr now. :^0

EMI are you worried? There was never any speculation that he wouldn't run if the ground was good so I suspect something may be up.

Don`t worry backers. Claisse will dump half the contents of the local reservoir on it for the next week!
:(

here BJG must mean Dunguib is going for the Champion ;\




:^0 awesome impact REPORTED

Bad scope leaves Solwhit Champion bid in doubt

BY RACINGPOST.COM STAFF 12:24PM 8 MAR 2010

SOLWHIT's participation in the Smurfit Kappa Champion Hurdle, for which he is second favourite, is in serious doubt after he scoped dirty on Monday morning.

Speaking shortly after midday, trainer Charles Byrnes told the Racing Post: "The news is bad. Solwhit scoped dirty less than half an hour ago and while he is not definitely outof the Champion Hurdle there has to be a serious doubt about him running.

"He has to go on antibiotics until Thursday and things are very much up in the air. It's the last thing we wanted to happen, but I've spoken with his owners and they want everyone to know the situation."

The six-year-old was as short as 4-1 for the Champion Hurdle.

I've spoken with his owners and they want everyone to know the situation

That's a little bit of beauty there.

:^0

I guess it's not just the ground then.......

:| jesus they are starting to drop like flies :-(

Doubt anyone will be matching Solwhit at 1000. :^0

Hope he's ok though :|

:^0 ^^^

I remember this used to happen years ago, so many leading fancies being ruled out of the festival in the lead-up. It hasn't happened in ages, until NOW................

ffs they better nt be gettin tempted to run de big D :_|

you would want to hope nothing happens Go Native BJG :|

It's the last thing we wanted to happen, but I've spoken with his owners and they want everyone to know the situation."

mmmm??

CMIYC will have the inside word on Dunguibs plans again this year no doubt.

:0

Still don't think they'll run Dunguib, they've made up their mind. Might run Quevega tho :-

Someone phone Colm Murphy with this news please.

agreed ^^ why she ain't running in it, i have no idea. she is best over 2m and a strong run 2m will be right up her street

He said he'd think about it if a few at the head came out - since then Zaynar got beat, Binoc is a doubt, and now Solwhit! Come on Colm!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm hoping he does change his mind too coz I'm on Quevega for the Mares. COME ON COLM!!!!!

If she was taken out Quevega would be very short in the mares race.

Re the Solwhit news, would take it with a pinch of salt ;)

Ya,take it with a pinch of salt ya moron.What do ya think the trainer is trying to do here?.Put out word to back it at a bigger price,this is one of the main races of the year ya tool.

Has somebody told EMI?

:^0

only backed him last week :(

wonder is that stable lad laying the pants off it the last couple of days

its how badly he scoped is the thing, their are 4 grades of scoping badly, 1-4, if its grade 1-2 his fine but if its 4 its bad. grade 1 is like a watery muscus he be fine and wont effect him


Just after finding out now how badly he scoped!

How bad Bio?

remember istabraq bleeding out of his nose 48hrs before the CH, he won easy

Surely a course of antidbodies puts paid to his chances Bio?

17 wtf?

woodworm 08 Mar 13:57
Horses are scoped routinely after exercise in racing yards. A 'dirty' scope is usually indicative of sub-clinical infection, ie inflammatory cells in higher numbers than normal present in the mucal secretions. Routine use of scoping allows these sub-clinical infections to be picked up quickly and treated before they become a serious problem.

Antibiotics will clear up a bacterial infection but remember a lot of infections in horses are viral and might take longer to settle.
The problem today is the timing so close to such a big race. Solwhit could easily turn up next week; but can he race at the best of his ability if him body is currently fighting infection?

I seriously doubt he can; but 20-1 is too big for me. I already have liabilities on the horse but will add afew pennies at 20's.

Imo Aintree is now much more likley. (and yes I am a vet; although I no longer treat horses)


Seems to know wat he's on about ;)

Does anyone believe these stories?

2.04 Dunguib - a reaction to this news I imagine

^^ If it was a non gambling stable i would tend to believe the stories but gambling stables are not to be trusted.This man would lie to you about what he had for his breakfast.

kiss of death from EMI on this thread, please no mention of any more horses until they get to the post!!!!

Dunguib team to stick to Supreme Novices' plan
By Jessica Lamb 2:02PM 8 MAR 2010

PHILIP FENTON said on Monday that the Punchestown Festival would be the first possible moment to see Dunguibtake on the big guns, despite the potential loss of leading chance Solwhit from the Smurfit Kappa Champion Hurdle line-up.

A poor display of jumping in the Deloitte Novice Hurdle at Leopardstown last month convinced connections to stick to the Spinal Research Supreme Novices' Hurdle, for which Dan Harnett and Lily Lawlor's star is the odds-on favourite, and Fenton intends to remove Dunguib from the Champion Hurdle at Wednesday's confirmation stage.

However, should Dunguib show the same ability he did when romping away with last term's Weatherbys Champion Bumper, his next race will be the Rabobank Champion Hurdle at Punchestown on April 23.

"If all goes well in the Supreme then the plan is to pitch him in against the big guns at Punchestown," said Fenton. "We scoped him yesterday, as we do each week, and he seemed fine.

"He went to Tipperary last Friday for a final gallop and all went smooth there too, so all is going okay at this stage and he goes to Cheltenham on Saturday."

Unbeaten in four hurdle runs, Dunguib is preparing for a bid to emulate Montelado on March 16 and become the second horse in the Festival's history to land the Champion Bumper and follow up in the Supreme Novices' Hurdle.

this is so funny, Sowhit will hose up next tues!

Solwhit 'less than 50-50' to make Champion

BY TONY O'HEHIR 2:09PM 9 MAR 2010

CHARLES BYRNES on Tuesday described Solwhit's chances of making the Smurfit Kappa Champion Hurdle line-up as "less than 50-50".

Solwhit's participation in the first day feature at the Cheltenham Festival has been thrown into doubt since he scoped dirty on Monday morning.

Speaking on Tuesday afternoon, Byrnes said: "Solwhit coughed four or five times today. I, more or less, expected thatto be the case, and that he would get worse before he gets better.

"He'd need to stop coughing by Thursday to have any chance of running. We'll see how the next few days go and will scope him again on Saturday when a decision will be made, but I'm not optimistic and I have to say his chances of travelling are less than 50-50 at this stage."

PMSL.

11.5 to lay here after going out to 20s, and now "less than 50-50."

:^0

huumh!! if his cough his a cough blast it!!

word in wexford is solwht runs tuesday.....

Slightly improved today

Has nt fully stopped coughing

Cantered this mornin, well in himself, jock said he feels as good as ever

If he scopes clear he wil at least travel over

Finished medication tomorrow

Will be scoped Saturday morning

Running out of days

50/50 stil to run

The only horse in de yard coughing

Davy said last night he doesn't expect him to run. Said he'll be scoped on Saturday, and will only run if Charles is very, very, very happy with him - even if he did turn up, he wouldn't be confident.

Charles was almost speaking in English on Racing News earlier.

Tony FENTON = Total begrudger and a total**k.

what is the story now??

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Has drifted a few points again this mornin, nothin too major though

He's getting on the boat.

Judging by the graph movements you could argue there was nothing ever wrong with him, went out on every story bounced straight back in.

Pretty low if thats the case IMO.

This horse should be booed if he wins. His connections are a disgrace to racing. First the lad laying him now this

What if Binocular wins? Same treatment iyo?

Having backed him at every price from 16s down I certainly won't be booing if he wins.

And that 16s was last April lest anyone think I've been playing him in the last few days!

:^0 ruby knew

Thank you Mr.Byrnes for being so open & honest with punters

he is a contemptible individual and a disgrace to all who hold this sport dear....

As a potential backer of this animal this race is now a no bet for me , I thought given the high profile of the race everything would be straight , but after recent days events how can one know ?

I just cant trust the trainer/stable , is the horse 100% ?

I cant back against him now either cos murphys law dictates he beats me then .

My fav race on the calendar and it is now a no bet for me , even if the horse is truly unwell how the fcuk can anyone trust the information with the stable involved?

My fav race on the calendar and it is now a no bet for me , even if the horse is truly unwell how the fcuk can anyone trust the information with the stable involved?

My sentiments exactly..... and I would have been with Solwith otherwise.... disgusted

What price are ye expecting Solwhit to be returned on Tuesday?

Anybody else praying it doesn't win? Highly questionable and pretty disgusting events this week.

As some of us said when this broke, it was to be taken with a pinch of salt, and so it has proved ;)

If CB backs him on the day he starts fav imo. However he may have backed the horse already!!

it really is a quandary as to his starting price.... doubt bookies would be too anxious to overtly take him on with the connections involved.....

Clearly a case of damned if you do............

I can see him being hammered.

very much doubt they were **ting about this to be honest.

Solwhit wins the CH end of, he was going real well till his minor setback, grade 1 scope only,a light watery mucus,best is yet to come from him imo

Biodiesel, did you Sire this hoss or what is with the love affair?

came back travelling from Asia an Oz skint, blew all my ssias,CC balance an more, within 4 months I had it all back again all due to one horse!!

With the help pf God Iav a monster payout come tues

Got roasted in Newcastle tho!!

Henderson's trio will have to beat Solwhit on Tuesday, as the Irish runner has been declared a likely runner after recovering from a spell of coughing this week. "He scoped clean earlier this morning so he will travel over tonight but obviously we will be monitoring him closely," said his trainer, Charles Byrnes.

"It was very strange, because he didn't go off his food and looked well in himself, it was just that he was coughing. There was no virus or anything, none of the other horses have coughed, so it really is a bit of a mystery.

"Obviously it is not ideal to have something like this happen so close to the Champion Hurdle but he seems fine now. He'll be monitored on the journey there and when he gets there but the intention is to run and, as long as he's 100%, he will."


As Ruby said " They are woeful punters"

Personally couldn't give a sh!te what they are at but if it walks like a duck............

its an oirish ting these days...a once proud happy nation that was so independent has turned into a a nation of bitter and begrudging **s!!!my point being is when a short few years ago when the country was awash with airgead the discerning punter didnt give a **e who was landing touches!!!therefore messrs. martin,byrnes and co.are being villified by people on here who are talkin rubbish

When the country was awash with money, I still had nothing but contempt for that absolute crook.

Binocular (FR)
Celestial Halo (IRE) (Blinkers, Tongue Strap)
Go Native (IRE)
Jumbo Rio (IRE)
Khyber Kim
Medermit (FR)
Punjabi
Raise Your Heart (IRE)
Solwhit (FR)
Starluck (IRE)
Won In The Dark (IRE)
Zaynar (FR) (Sheepskin C/P)

Between Go Native and Solwhit, surprises if anything else wins.

surprised*

Gonna be no pace at al in the CH is there :0

CH will surely go to the front and set off at a fair pace?

Ruby said he doesnt want to make the running..

If he doesn't then it does look like being a slow run race, will really suit GN.

ruby forcing someones hand, Punjabi I suppose