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Deep Impact
01 Nov 09 13:17
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1. Each competitor has 2 points to use every day there is an Irish racing meeting. The bet is either 2pts win or 1 pt e/w. If not specified the bet will be assumed to be 2pts win, whatever the price.
2. We'll use SP (unless you quote time of price and where - no best morning price stuff)
3. No lays, place only, betfair prices, doubles, trebles etc
4. If there are two or more Irish meetings on that day there is still only one bet.
5. Each competitor has two 5 point bets to use during the competition. One bet can be used by the end of November and the other used by the end of the comp. If somebody selects a 5 point bet, this horse may not be used as a 5 point bet by anyone else that day.
6. Bets are on Irish horse racing only.
7.Competitors may nominate in advance a "competition holiday" which must be taken in chunks of not least than a week (seems fair enough- winning tippers will make pts than holidays makers might lose )
8. Not posting unless stated on holiday for the week or fortinght will be the equivalent of a -1
9 Returns will NOT include your stake
10. Entrants will be accepted up to a week from tomorrow.
11. Entrants should be prepared to keep own score
12. Starts on Saturday (JNWine Chase day) ends on January 10th (Pierse Hurdle day).
13. All welcome to enter.

*Moneypenny has kindly offered to do the settling*
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Report Deep Impact November 1, 2009 1:27 PM GMT
10. Entrants will be accepted up to a week from tomorrow.

*tomorrow should read Saturday
Report oldbean November 1, 2009 1:39 PM GMT
2. We'll use SP (unless you quote time of price and where - no best morning price stuff)
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lads abused this, which being a layer, got on my goat, :(
Report Monte Christo November 1, 2009 2:29 PM GMT
Good man deep.

Count me in should be a bit of craic.
Report moneypenny November 1, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
Count me in :)
Report one last chance November 1, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
in also
Report BJG November 1, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
Report dasium November 1, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
up for a bit of craic with it too
Report Doyler1987 November 1, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
I'll have a bash :D
Report CailiniDeas8 November 1, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
Cheers lads, I'll go again.
Report ATC November 1, 2009 5:23 PM GMT
Ill have a bash - tanx deep and MP
Report ChildOfMine2 November 1, 2009 5:59 PM GMT
Yep, I'm in too.
Report irons28 November 1, 2009 7:55 PM GMT
count me in
Report Sligored November 1, 2009 8:24 PM GMT
yes plz
Report General Idea November 1, 2009 8:31 PM GMT
I'll have a go. Thanks lads.
Report ATC November 1, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
will some of the wise old posters come out of retirement for this? Centre Field et al?
Report Prospero November 1, 2009 9:32 PM GMT
Think an SP only competition might make it interesting; would make life tougher anyway.
Report ATC November 1, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
would lead to it being a lot tighter anyway, with more lads in with a shout...but there is a lot of skill involved in getting on at the right time!! its a tough one imo
Report moneypenny November 1, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
SP only would be easier for the scorer. How about we use betfair sp's which are a truer reflection of a horses real odds especially with outsiders
Report Prospero November 1, 2009 9:59 PM GMT
Good point moneypenny. Definitely think it should be made as easy as possible for whoever is doing the scoring. The Betfair SP makes sense as the tipster gets full value for tipping a big-priced rag.
Report Allduckornodinner November 1, 2009 10:07 PM GMT
I'm in, provided plenty of interest and debate last year so hopefully more of the same. Think it should be SP only apart from the bonus races which are priced up in advance to reward the shrew antepost selections
Report moneypenny November 1, 2009 10:13 PM GMT
No antepost in this comp allduckornodinner. If everyone is agreed i think BSP is the easiest and fairest way to go. Lads getting big odds in the morning off oddschecker has created suspicion and bad feeling a few times in the past and quite often they are ricks by the likes of b365 that are only laid for pennies or not at all.
Report dkelly69 November 1, 2009 10:15 PM GMT
Show me where to sign!
Report downallstar November 1, 2009 10:25 PM GMT
I'm in.

No more early prices :(
Fair enough I suppose.
Report ATC November 1, 2009 10:37 PM GMT
betfair sp could result in some massive priced winners....

maybe im wrong in this but it could mean a that a consistant tipper could get blind sided by one stab in the dark at mega odds?

would this be an issue?
Report downallstar November 1, 2009 10:39 PM GMT
Agree, maybe just use the industry sp?
Report moneypenny November 1, 2009 11:54 PM GMT
Im easy either way whichever way we decide. I suppose the real downside of using betfair sp is it would skew each way bets as odds would not be representative although having said that i see betfair also return a place sp
Report jasonk178. November 2, 2009 10:14 AM GMT
basing the comp on sp would be taking half the fun out of it imo.spotting/taking the value early is half the battle.im sure those who put up prices which are not available can be easily identified and banished from the comp.
Report downallstar November 2, 2009 10:39 AM GMT
I don't think that too many ppl do put up prices that aren't there, as you say Jason, its easy to verify on odds-checker.
Report CailiniDeas8 November 2, 2009 10:44 AM GMT
I agree. Half the challenge is getting best EP.

Think the competition was only ever once won by someone who guessed on 1 big price winner near the end.

;-)
Report moneypenny November 4, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
bump
Report macrocky November 4, 2009 1:55 PM GMT
some people havent access to the net during the winter, they may be on the road or in a company that doesnt allow internet browsing, they are at a disadvantage
Report jasonk178. November 4, 2009 2:24 PM GMT
most poeple didnt seen to have trouble previously and those that do can take sp if they have to,hardly that big a deal considering the comp is only a bit of fun
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 4, 2009 3:38 PM GMT
X-( thats me in so, after that snipe attack :^0
Report soapp November 4, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
Im in.
Report jasonk178. November 4, 2009 3:58 PM GMT
im in,any chance of getting betair to put a market up on it??
Report CailiniDeas8 November 4, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
lol any chance eoin ryans replacement could toss a few prizes in for the winner/top3?
Report Hoss November 4, 2009 4:05 PM GMT
Yes please count me in :)
Report thegalwayman November 4, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
His replacement?
Report CailiniDeas8 November 4, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
He's not being replaced?
Report thegalwayman November 4, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
He left?
Report CailiniDeas8 November 4, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
I may be speaking out of turn. I thought I read somewhere here he'd joined a spread betting firm?

Apologies if not.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 4, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
Awaiting a response to my email to Mr ROSS (new man a the top).

Can't wait to try on another Betfair Jacket ;)
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 4, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
*at
Report Santry November 4, 2009 5:09 PM GMT
Count me in . I think maybe SP may be fairer as i'm sure lots of lads are like me - leave the house early and have no internet access all day so have to take SP.
Report CailiniDeas8 November 4, 2009 5:13 PM GMT
Believemeifyoudare, maybe he'll reply to you on the secret thread.

Rofl.

:^0
Report The Gotchee November 4, 2009 5:46 PM GMT
You have to be invited to post on that secret thread. A bit masonic methinks. ;)
Report tobywong. November 4, 2009 5:51 PM GMT
im in too , would also be on the sp side
Report soapp November 4, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
One bet can be used by the end of November and the other used by the end of the comp.

Hello there lads.

If the first bet is not used by the end of November, can it be used in December or January please.
This is not made clear in the instructions.

Cheers.
Report tobywong. November 4, 2009 6:30 PM GMT
from earlier comps soap ( and to my cost) , thats a no
Report Lumberg November 4, 2009 6:47 PM GMT
Sign me up, ta.
Report Deep Impact November 4, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
Re : 5pt bets, not fussed myself. In previous comps, think idea was to try & use one in roughly each half of the comp

As for SP/early prices, would prefer early prices but happy to go with majority - it's only a bit of fun intended to stimulate some racing debate on here :).
Report downallstar November 4, 2009 7:11 PM GMT
Keep it as is imo.
The 2 x 5pointers is perfect, no 10pts on Wheresben @33/1 :^0
Report BJG November 4, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
:^0 ^
Report 3winnersandasecond November 4, 2009 8:52 PM GMT
Let's see where some of these big mouths end up in on the 10th Jan...
Report finavara November 4, 2009 8:52 PM GMT
count me in too
Report downallstar November 4, 2009 9:08 PM GMT
Only messin 3winners, was a great shout. ;)
Report Pat Mustard November 4, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
I'm in :)
Report moneypenny November 4, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
Hi Deep Impact

Can we get clarity on a few points before Saturday

By my count approx 8 lads have expressed a clear preference for SP and 4 are favouring early prices option. Whatever the majority vote for we will go on so. Shall we check this thread again Friday evening and go with that. The rest have not expressed an opinion.

Also can you make it clear in the rules the date range that 1st five point bet can be used in and likewise the second.

If we start the official thread Friday evening and you publish the rules with above two points clarified at that start of thread that will be what I will do scoring on.
Report dasium November 4, 2009 9:57 PM GMT
the sp is grand by me... has to be easier to compile and less debate over early prices evenif it sanitises the fun a bit
Report Oddball207 November 4, 2009 10:02 PM GMT
i'll have a go...think sp is probably fair on everyone.
Report megabucks November 4, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
ya sounds good, always a great comp. I'm in.
Report macrocky November 5, 2009 4:13 AM GMT
it will keep me interested for the winter i will give it a go
Report Cranedo November 5, 2009 7:38 AM GMT
SP suits me!!
Report TD_Gunner November 5, 2009 7:48 AM GMT
Count me in too !
Report sintonian November 5, 2009 9:53 AM GMT
Im in and aiming to Win.

early morning prices preffered but aint fussed.
Report Deep Impact November 5, 2009 10:21 AM GMT
Hello mp

Let's go with SP - at least it's a level playing field then for those who can't access the internet during the day

How about extending the period for the first 5-pointer to John Durkan Day on 6th Dec (around the mid-way point of the comp)?
Report onthenoseinfo November 5, 2009 10:55 AM GMT
sp seems fairest route and easiest to keep score for mp....looking forward to coming last :-)
Report CailiniDeas8 November 5, 2009 11:12 AM GMT
The Gotchee

Think anyone who is found to have contributed to the secret thread should be shunned and removed from the tipping competition. ;-)

There may be as many as a half dozen villains imo.

Regarding prices I'm happy to go with majority for sp if that's what's chosen.
Report moneypenny November 5, 2009 11:49 AM GMT
Dec 6th makes sense DI. So we are saying first 5ptr must be used by Dec 6th. If not it is forfeited. 2nd five ptr can only be used from Dec7th to end of comp
Report CailiniDeas8 November 5, 2009 12:13 PM GMT
New scorekeeper required. Apply within.

;-)
Report moneypenny November 5, 2009 12:16 PM GMT
Are you offering Tony
Am i another poor abused worker about to be thrown on the scrapheap- Wheres me shop steward :)
Report CailiniDeas8 November 5, 2009 12:20 PM GMT
lol me poor head is just recovering from my stints mp, I'll pass

:-)
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2009 12:22 PM GMT
Furtiveness Tony :^0
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2009 12:39 PM GMT
Prizes on the way (per phone call just now).

Thanks Beffair.

Will confirm by copy email as soon as we receive same.
Report moneypenny November 5, 2009 12:42 PM GMT
good stuff cmiyc
Report oldbean November 5, 2009 12:49 PM GMT
]its gotta be SP. lads, its the only way....
suppose we tro 50 a head into a kitty?? ;)
Report Deep Impact November 5, 2009 1:01 PM GMT
Ok, mp - SP it is & those periods stated for the 5pt-ers

I will put up a Selections Thread tomorrow afternoon
Report CailiniDeas8 November 5, 2009 1:37 PM GMT
Wd BMIYD.

:-)
Report irons28 November 5, 2009 11:18 PM GMT
i am away until sunday so can i start here

2pts win notre pere jw chase down royal
Report moneypenny November 6, 2009 8:49 AM GMT
No problem Irons- Your on
Report ChildOfMine2 November 6, 2009 12:28 PM GMT
Surely if somebody wants to take an early morning price, they can? If not, then they can get the s.p. That makes more sense right?
Report carrickaneagh November 6, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
count me in too lads, cheers
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 6, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
We would be delighted to sponsor this years tipping competition and as such will be putting up the following prizes;



1st prize - €100 worth of credit to the winners Betfair account

2nd prize - €50 worth of credit to the winners Betfair account

3rd prize - €25 worth of credit to the winners Betfair account




Special Prize A Betfair Goody Bag to the highest individual winning tip!


I will leave you manage it and you can email me the chat names of the relevant prize winners!



Is that all ok?



Thanks,



David



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Report sinndar001 November 6, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
Always said David was sound despite wat other people said about him. :)

I'll have a go anyway.
Report moneypenny November 6, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
the majority favoured sp only com2 so thats what we went with. hope thats ok
Report jasonk178. November 6, 2009 7:41 PM GMT
disappointed with the sp situation also but will still give it a crack.i was being serious the other daywhen i said about asking bf to put up a market on the comp,maybe someone cud ask???
Report do rightly November 6, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
Count me in as well please
Report DeSSieReborn November 7, 2009 9:45 AM GMT
I think it should be SP only, so EVERYONE is on a level playing field
Report DeSSieReborn November 7, 2009 9:46 AM GMT
Sorry just noticed, it IS SP only :) Well Done DI for running this ;-)
Report megabucks November 7, 2009 10:08 AM GMT
7.30 Dundalk 1pt ew Invincible ash
Report moneypenny November 7, 2009 10:16 AM GMT
irons28 06 Nov 00:18
i am away until sunday so can i start here

2pts win notre pere jw chase down royal
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 9, 2009 7:59 PM GMT
Hoss 08 Nov 12:02.......12.55 Navan Altimov @ 10/1


Special Prize A Betfair Goody Bag to the highest individual winning tip!



Goody Bag Leader so far
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 11, 2009 8:15 PM GMT
Amazing scenes in Dundalk.......No winner yet tonite.......down to Mega & CM !
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 11, 2009 8:20 PM GMT
Time to lay it off MOSSIE ;)
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 11, 2009 8:20 PM GMT
Time to lay it off MOSSIE ;)
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 13, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
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