1. Each competitor has 2 points to use every day there is an Irish racing meeting. The bet is either 2pts win or 1 pt e/w. If not specified the bet will be assumed to be 2pts win, whatever the price. 2. We'll use SP (unless you quote time of price and where - no best morning price stuff) 3. No lays, place only, betfair prices, doubles, trebles etc 4. If there are two or more Irish meetings on that day there is still only one bet. 5. Each competitor has two 5 point bets to use during the competition. One bet can be used by the end of November and the other used by the end of the comp. If somebody selects a 5 point bet, this horse may not be used as a 5 point bet by anyone else that day. 6. Bets are on Irish horse racing only. 7.Competitors may nominate in advance a "competition holiday" which must be taken in chunks of not least than a week (seems fair enough- winning tippers will make pts than holidays makers might lose ) 8. Not posting unless stated on holiday for the week or fortinght will be the equivalent of a -1 9 Returns will NOT include your stake 10. Entrants will be accepted up to a week from tomorrow. 11. Entrants should be prepared to keep own score 12. Starts on Saturday (JNWine Chase day) ends on January 10th (Pierse Hurdle day). 13. All welcome to enter.
*Moneypenny has kindly offered to do the settling*
2. We'll use SP (unless you quote time of price and where - no best morning price stuff) ----------- lads abused this, which being a layer, got on my goat, :(
2. We'll use SP (unless you quote time of price and where - no best morning price stuff)-----------lads abused this, which being a layer, got on my goat, :(
would lead to it being a lot tighter anyway, with more lads in with a shout...but there is a lot of skill involved in getting on at the right time!! its a tough one imo
would lead to it being a lot tighter anyway, with more lads in with a shout...but there is a lot of skill involved in getting on at the right time!! its a tough one imo
Good point moneypenny. Definitely think it should be made as easy as possible for whoever is doing the scoring. The Betfair SP makes sense as the tipster gets full value for tipping a big-priced rag.
Good point moneypenny. Definitely think it should be made as easy as possible for whoever is doing the scoring. The Betfair SP makes sense as the tipster gets full value for tipping a big-priced rag.
I'm in, provided plenty of interest and debate last year so hopefully more of the same. Think it should be SP only apart from the bonus races which are priced up in advance to reward the shrew antepost selections
I'm in, provided plenty of interest and debate last year so hopefully more of the same. Think it should be SP only apart from the bonus races which are priced up in advance to reward the shrew antepost selections
No antepost in this comp allduckornodinner. If everyone is agreed i think BSP is the easiest and fairest way to go. Lads getting big odds in the morning off oddschecker has created suspicion and bad feeling a few times in the past and quite often they are ricks by the likes of b365 that are only laid for pennies or not at all.
No antepost in this comp allduckornodinner. If everyone is agreed i think BSP is the easiest and fairest way to go. Lads getting big odds in the morning off oddschecker has created suspicion and bad feeling a few times in the past and quite often th
betfair sp could result in some massive priced winners....
maybe im wrong in this but it could mean a that a consistant tipper could get blind sided by one stab in the dark at mega odds?
would this be an issue?
betfair sp could result in some massive priced winners....maybe im wrong in this but it could mean a that a consistant tipper could get blind sided by one stab in the dark at mega odds?would this be an issue?
Im easy either way whichever way we decide. I suppose the real downside of using betfair sp is it would skew each way bets as odds would not be representative although having said that i see betfair also return a place sp
Im easy either way whichever way we decide. I suppose the real downside of using betfair sp is it would skew each way bets as odds would not be representative although having said that i see betfair also return a place sp
basing the comp on sp would be taking half the fun out of it imo.spotting/taking the value early is half the battle.im sure those who put up prices which are not available can be easily identified and banished from the comp.
basing the comp on sp would be taking half the fun out of it imo.spotting/taking the value early is half the battle.im sure those who put up prices which are not available can be easily identified and banished from the comp.
Think the competition was only ever once won by someone who guessed on 1 big price winner near the end.
;-)
I agree. Half the challenge is getting best EP.Think the competition was only ever once won by someone who guessed on 1 big price winner near the end.;-)
some people havent access to the net during the winter, they may be on the road or in a company that doesnt allow internet browsing, they are at a disadvantage
some people havent access to the net during the winter, they may be on the road or in a company that doesnt allow internet browsing, they are at a disadvantage
most poeple didnt seen to have trouble previously and those that do can take sp if they have to,hardly that big a deal considering the comp is only a bit of fun
most poeple didnt seen to have trouble previously and those that do can take sp if they have to,hardly that big a deal considering the comp is only a bit of fun
Count me in . I think maybe SP may be fairer as i'm sure lots of lads are like me - leave the house early and have no internet access all day so have to take SP.
Count me in . I think maybe SP may be fairer as i'm sure lots of lads are like me - leave the house early and have no internet access all day so have to take SP.
One bet can be used by the end of November and the other used by the end of the comp.
Hello there lads.
If the first bet is not used by the end of November, can it be used in December or January please. This is not made clear in the instructions.
Cheers.
One bet can be used by the end of November and the other used by the end of the comp. Hello there lads.If the first bet is not used by the end of November, can it be used in December or January please.This is not made clear in the instructions.Cheers
Re : 5pt bets, not fussed myself. In previous comps, think idea was to try & use one in roughly each half of the comp
As for SP/early prices, would prefer early prices but happy to go with majority - it's only a bit of fun intended to stimulate some racing debate on here :).
Re : 5pt bets, not fussed myself. In previous comps, think idea was to try & use one in roughly each half of the compAs for SP/early prices, would prefer early prices but happy to go with majority - it's only a bit of fun intended to stimulate some r
Can we get clarity on a few points before Saturday
By my count approx 8 lads have expressed a clear preference for SP and 4 are favouring early prices option. Whatever the majority vote for we will go on so. Shall we check this thread again Friday evening and go with that. The rest have not expressed an opinion.
Also can you make it clear in the rules the date range that 1st five point bet can be used in and likewise the second.
If we start the official thread Friday evening and you publish the rules with above two points clarified at that start of thread that will be what I will do scoring on.
Hi Deep ImpactCan we get clarity on a few points before SaturdayBy my count approx 8 lads have expressed a clear preference for SP and 4 are favouring early prices option. Whatever the majority vote for we will go on so. Shall we check this thread ag
Let's go with SP - at least it's a level playing field then for those who can't access the internet during the day
How about extending the period for the first 5-pointer to John Durkan Day on 6th Dec (around the mid-way point of the comp)?
Hello mpLet's go with SP - at least it's a level playing field then for those who can't access the internet during the dayHow about extending the period for the first 5-pointer to John Durkan Day on 6th Dec (around the mid-way point of the comp)?
Think anyone who is found to have contributed to the secret thread should be shunned and removed from the tipping competition. ;-)
There may be as many as a half dozen villains imo.
Regarding prices I'm happy to go with majority for sp if that's what's chosen.
The GotcheeThink anyone who is found to have contributed to the secret thread should be shunned and removed from the tipping competition. ;-)There may be as many as a half dozen villains imo.Regarding prices I'm happy to go with majority for sp if th
Dec 6th makes sense DI. So we are saying first 5ptr must be used by Dec 6th. If not it is forfeited. 2nd five ptr can only be used from Dec7th to end of comp
Dec 6th makes sense DI. So we are saying first 5ptr must be used by Dec 6th. If not it is forfeited. 2nd five ptr can only be used from Dec7th to end of comp
We would be delighted to sponsor this years tipping competition and as such will be putting up the following prizes; 1st prize - 100 worth of credit to the winners Betfair account2nd prize - 50 worth of credit to the winners Betfair account3rd pr
disappointed with the sp situation also but will still give it a crack.i was being serious the other daywhen i said about asking bf to put up a market on the comp,maybe someone cud ask???
disappointed with the sp situation also but will still give it a crack.i was being serious the other daywhen i said about asking bf to put up a market on the comp,maybe someone cud ask???