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Gordon Brown (how on earth is he still relevant) now suggesting huge tax rises for betting shop gaming terminals and don’t forget general betting duty (excluding horse racing I believe for now) goes up to 25% next April. Beginning of the end if this lot stay in power after the next GE.
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It makes much more sense now, as it came to light that tens of £millions of national lottery revenue is scalped to hand over to 'charities' whose raison d'etre is to ruin the country.
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Naturally the Lottery was untouched by Reeves in her last budget Cider.
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How else can we pay for the invaders....
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They want gambling gone,cash gone,shops gone, cars gone something is really wrong they are planning complete control in my opinion some call it a conspiracy but a few to many of them have come true in the last few years.
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Where's David Vincent when you need him Chrissyb....
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no one begged/camaigned more than horse racing for the gov to tax FOTB,s heavily,horse racing won get over it
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My understanding is that these 'charities' assist in the journey, the welcome, accessing benefits and legal aid. If the 'charities' were funding illegals that would be bad enough, but the money is mostly spent on coaching and navigating the system. The British taxpayer is still rooted. People working for the charities will be well remunerated, and they don't have many publishing requirements. The whole affair, if people don't already know, is a grift on a global scale.
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Commie FILTH
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National Lottery, Children in Need, Comic Relief I wouldn't donate 2 brass washers to them now.
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Everyone knows if you vote labour in, they raise taxes, that's what they do.
The problem here is the previous, laughably-named "conservative" government hiking taxation up to the highest levels since the 1950s when we were trying to pay for a couple of world wars. |
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I do not do the National Lottery or Comic Relief. But, good luck to those who do. I'm a donor or volunteer of local stuff eg soup kitchen and food bank. I'd like to know where my free service and money go.
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Very few charities are 'straight' these days, there’s always someone with their hand in the till.
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I will tell mr dc Brown what he will ge Fcuck all the shops will be shut no revunue and they will have to pay for me and other staff who will be in the dole que as rico says he is AFDC sorry a very very angry .
Ronnie. |
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Gambling on horses wont disappear, it will just take another form. My belief is that it will be government run.
There'll be jobs for folk who want to work in such establishments but they may be asked to serve food, bingo tickets, sweep the floors. emporiums of a nature not recognisable now. |
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Naughty boys and girls will be allowed to gamble as long as they are deemed 'responsible'.
Banks will report on your betting habits, and your medical practitioner will report on you should you present with psychological problems, alcohol abuse, domestic abuse etc. Iris recognition will be the KYC info, run by AI. No point dwelling on the past, as you wont be part of the future. |
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Surely, if betting on horses stops, as in legally, and generating money to fund the sport...it would cease to exist ? People won't go racing to watch a load of horses race if they can't bet on it, irrespective of post race bands, discos etc
And if the black market gambling isn't, obviously, putting funds into racing then it can't be sustainable...football and other sports are not reliant on gambling, most of the youngsters I speak to are football betters only, and not very savvy regarding odds, value either |
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There was a report that came out years ago highlighting that future gamblers wouldn't be betting on horses and greyhounds and as to how they could be engaged.
Quite disturbing really but a natural progression and reality that this and future generations would need to be enticed by 'games that interested them' as per the evolving digital age (and now AI). It's nothing personal, it's just business. The proles need to be fleeced, it's just a case of how you keep them engaged while you fleece them, and at the same time 'entertain' them. |
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oh, and control their behaviours in a manner that appears to be in their best interests and also their dependants (if not wider society).
Doesn't really matter if it's Gordon Brown spouting up or any other mouthpiece that is wheeled out, the landscape is about to change drastically. |
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It was Brown who raided private pension funds and sold a load of the countries gold reserves off at rock bottom prices so why is he still around ?
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brown also said a 100 MILL of tax he aid would raise 450 mill would go directly back to racecourses /racing,
as for selling GOLD its like houses its worth what it worth on the day you sell it if you bought a house for a 100 grand sold it for a million are you now an idiot because it worth 2 mill today ? if you sold gold 3 yrs ago at the highest price its ever been are you an idiot because its worth 40% more today ? just one of those comments thrown out there in social media world,where 99.9% of those throwing it out there have no idea of the context it was sold in, thatcher baically giving council house tock away,elling north sea oil field ,gas,water, etc far worse decisions nowlooking back,sunak BN £ insurance blunder |
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There'll be no tax to collect if most of the betting shops shut.
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if you bought a house for a 100 grand sold it for a million are you now an idiot because it worth 2 mill today ?
if you sold gold 3 yrs ago at the highest price its ever been are you an idiot because its worth 40% more today ? anyone of moderate intelligence (or higher) knows that you don't realise assets immediately after a crash. that's the time to buy. that obviously counts out characters like brown and andrew bailey |
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you are probably one of those who sold your equites in March 2020, and still don't feel like an idiot.
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well, quite. gold can't be printed. yet, anyway. he managed to do that with sterling instead.
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no TAX to collect if betting shos close, it aimed mainly at casino,s, online casino games,high t gambling arcades,its only involving betting sho because they filled their shop,s with FOBT,s, casino games,cartoon racing and stopped taking, offering bets on what at the time when horse racing punter,s all wanted FOBT,s removing from shops, BETTING WITH SKILL NOT CHANCE
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Old hawk eye should slip on the slippers and P off,not a popular individual around Kirkcaldy tbh….
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ISTP.
Sad to say the punters have gone from the shops and they are not coming back .Taake a guess how mutch and how many bets the shop would take on a Monday. Hope you are well. Ronnnie. |
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i will have up to 30 bets today, all on here, and all above bookies sp. ive not been in a shop for years
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Cider, what charities are you talking of, please?
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the lottery's own publication:
So, what’s the bigger picture of National Lottery funding - most relevant to refugees - since 1994? Over 2,500 projects, organisations and/or venues have, collectively, received more than £143M of National Lottery funding to support refugees, since 1994 |
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You can see where the £48 billion of scalps has gone, here. If so inclined!
https://nationallottery.dcms.gov.uk/data |
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Bookmakers chose to dumb down, not wanting to try and outwit the punter, but instead to make it very hard for anyone with a reasonable chance of winning long term to get on with them. Instead they chose FOBT's and cartoon racing to fleece addicts. Racing chose to align themselves to bookmakers at the expense of punters. It is in racing's interests that punters lose as much as possible. Now racing is crying because the government doesn't like the way bookmakers try to fleece addicts. If bookies shops close down then I certainly won't be crying for them. Racing will have to find another way to fund itself and perhaps also introduce a reduced programme rather than the wall to wall racing bookies have demanded.
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Sorry if already mentioned, I am sure someone that is more up to date on these matters, all these adverts, you can win a car, a house (not incl omaze) get a hooker for the night, win a motor home etc etc is it true these are not taxed? Why are these companies not brought into line? Labour the Party that wants you to spend spend spend, do not save so they have your money and then ask where it all went when you are older and have none, then kicks in BENEFITS.
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1TP when was the last time you went into a bookies. Every time I go into my local Corals there’s 2 or 3 all playing the machines. If the machines aren’t profitable the books will shut the shops. There goes the image rights money for a start.
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I certainly don't believe there is any end game like you suggest. Of course people exist in society who want to end horse racing, but that's not at all what tax rises on fobt's is about.
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ok, so you think the total tax take from betting will increase?
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The Management, yes absolutely agree with all that. My previous comment was directed towards Cider's response.
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other than to nick a betfred saturday race card
 ,must be 20 yrs for a betwe all understand RACING need the £ from bookmaker,s but it was racing itelf,backed by the trade paper that fought for punitive taxes on FOBT,s,reduced number of FOBT,S in shop,s and it was racings leaders who again were popping the champagne corks when negotiating themeleve a carve out from increased taxes on other form,s of betting |
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if reasonably intelligent people don't see it, there isn't much hope. it's not a majority of the population that want to end horse racing, but it's the majority of the people with real power and influence. but the majority are being manipulated into thinking that gambling is as bad as smoking tobacco. and using animals for entertainment is cruel. given the (low) standard of education, that's not going to swing back in the sensible direction. you only need to look at how compliant and malleable young people were in lockdowns.
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