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JohanntheGoatHurdler
07 Jul 26 09:55
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Which side of the fence would you be on?

Will Johnny G shirk the contest due to potential Ballydoyle team tactics?
Pause Switch to Standard View Constitution River vs Ombudsman
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Report duffy August 19, 2026 4:03 PM BST
do wrong
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND August 19, 2026 4:03 PM BST
The thing I have noticed after this race, and it is not going related, one of the ITV team needs to use nose hair clippers.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:04 PM BST
Nothing,duffy
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 4:04 PM BST
Hugo-Hackenbush • August 19, 2026 1:59 PM BST
Delashay 19 Aug 26 11:44
Ive had a decent EW bet on Item..gl lads.

Thanks H Love
Report eric_morris August 19, 2026 4:05 PM BST
Looks like pacemaker and holders in are spoiling quality horses chances it reminds you there is no point in taking short prices no matter the race quality.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:06 PM BST
But,you didn't as Hugo's post was a spoofLaugh
Report impossible123 August 19, 2026 4:06 PM BST
I do not think Gosden Snr will be happy with Buick. The softening ground was already a negative. The $64k question is when will Loughnane take over before another major outfit makes the move for him eg Juddmonte or Shadwell? Crowley has just retired.
Report penzance August 19, 2026 4:08 PM BST
I think Ombudsman a class act but does need fastish ground.
I'd like to see him given a chance @ the Breeders Cup Turf,
going permitting. Let's not forget apart from the Derby flop,
Item is unbeaten.
Report Storm Alert August 19, 2026 4:08 PM BST
Rushed him up the rail, rather than gradually moving to better ground off the rail. Dettori knew how to ride this course.
Report 1st time poster August 19, 2026 4:09 PM BST
why does BOOBY WALSH think its madness for leader to come off the rail, 6 off the rail is place to be at york, so your in front go wide they either have to come up your inside on the worst of the ground or come middle or further wide to go by you,thats why they do it, 2 best jocks in world trying to do each other in,end up on worst art of the track,moore could have been where the 1st and 2nd were if he wasnt to busy trying to  box buick in,
Report ihal essex August 19, 2026 4:14 PM BST
I only criticise jockeys when skulduggery is evident, never for an unlucky ride, but I'm afraid the ineptitude of Buick's ride on Ombudsman, the best horse in the race, was so overwhelmingly stupid from flag fall to finish, Johnny G would be quite within rights to sack him. William is too prone to disasters like this. Get rid Johnny and get Billy the Kid in.
Report 1st time poster August 19, 2026 4:15 PM BST
kook where theyve all finshed their compared to moore and buick in the last
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 4:15 PM BST
On ITV at the start of the day Rossa was interviewed by Trapman, He said that he thought that they’d come down the middle as the best ground was there. Had said that it was slower on either rail.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:15 PM BST
Comedy Gold
Report Storm Alert August 19, 2026 4:17 PM BST
Over the years I do think Buick throws in the occasional unfathomable ride. He talks well but not sure if he is the brightest star in the sky.
Report duffy August 19, 2026 4:17 PM BST
So, are the people criticising Buick saying he should have switched out wide?
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:19 PM BST
How on Earth could he do so,duffy.
Pocket talkers are us
Report duffy August 19, 2026 4:21 PM BST
Agree irons, there was a chance at the start of the long sweep for home when he could have eased back around Action but he was keen and I think Buick didn't want him racing in daylight that early, around the final home turn it was three deep back there and he'd have had to give up a stack of ground and momentum then, the gaps came and went up the inner and all that on off effort used him up...that's racing.
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 4:24 PM BST
Gosden spoke of the perils of being drawn 1 being the off. Taking into the bend that comes up.

Given Ryan’s comments to Trapman where Moore rode was odd. Not just Buick. Look where the winner came!
Report Storm Alert August 19, 2026 4:25 PM BST
Well Item was able to do so, and he was right next to Ombudsman if you watch the race again.
Report blackbarn August 19, 2026 4:25 PM BST
ihal essex 19 Aug 26 16:14 - I only criticise jockeys when skulduggery is evident, never for an unlucky ride, but I'm afraid the ineptitude of Buick's ride on Ombudsman, the best horse in the race, was so overwhelmingly stupid from flag fall to finish, Johnny G would be quite within rights to sack him. William is too prone to disasters like this. Get rid Johnny and get Billy the Kid in.

Buick's contract is with Owners Godolphin not Trainer Gosden.  Mr Gosden couldnt sack him even if he wanted to.
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 4:25 PM BST
Moore could have gone anywhere, Keane chose to go there. He’s furthest away from the rail as the photo on the post now shows.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:27 PM BST
And,why would he want to?
Ground did for the fav,simple as that
Report 1st time poster August 19, 2026 4:28 PM BST
the gaps came up the inner because no one other than buick and moore wanted to be there and moore was only there to try and box buick in for as long as possible , moore had 1st go/option of racing where the 1st and 2nd finished, buick could have stayed behind the winner instead of going up his inner and getting himself on the rail  but he was more interested in following what he thought was his only danger
Report impossible123 August 19, 2026 4:31 PM BST
With hindsight Item has the credentials to win eg stays the distance (Derby), pacesetters went awol and not troubled by the softish going. The principals ran way below potential for differing reasons.
Report brandyontherocks August 19, 2026 4:33 PM BST
Keane was forced to go wide when the door clos3d in front of him.
Report Storm Alert August 19, 2026 4:34 PM BST
Winning time of race was slow by 0.14s, nothing much wrong with the ground for Ombudsman if he had avoided the slow ground on the rail as Rossa had highlighted earlier today.
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Report brandyontherocks August 19, 2026 4:35 PM BST
What part of his 26L defeat in the Derby showed he stayed, Impossible123?
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:37 PM BST
Implausible is a "Fisherman",brandyLaugh
Report brandyontherocks August 19, 2026 4:39 PM BST
I hope you're right.
Surely nobody can type 34k posts of b@ll@x
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:40 PM BST
He can and doesLaugh
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 4:43 PM BST
You’re right Storm, earlier in the year for the Dante it was the reverse, Moore came up the middle on slower ground, whereas Item and Action were nearest the stands rail.

Buick will take a lot of flack but at the same time Moore deserves it too for his positioning.

Last time out Item was tapped for toe, then stayed on well.

River was rated too highly for beating the same horse in the Eclipse 1L more. The French have him very highly rated no doubt to boost their race, the for, is looking dough.
Report penzance August 19, 2026 4:43 PM BST
So called fishermen on here don't put people on 'ignore'.
He's no fisherman.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:45 PM BST
but,he doesn't have them on "ignore",penzance
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 4:49 PM BST
Either way,he is either a fisherman or an absolute moron
Report brandyontherocks August 19, 2026 4:54 PM BST
I think Buick is getting criticised a little unfairly.

In the previous race the jockeys did not come up the middle, but stayed on the rail.

Keane on Item, was forced to come wide when the gap he was looking for inside Almaqam closed.

Even in the following race a few jocks tried to come up the inside.

They are all thick.
Report penzance August 19, 2026 4:57 PM BST
ronnie rails
Got the front 2 in the Mkt beat.
wd
   GL
Report slickster August 19, 2026 4:59 PM BST
Laugh. Yes yes indeed. Slick puts frico to the sword AGAIN. AGAIN the freak puts up a 2-11 "rock solid" bet - ombudsman 1st 3. Slick said "no its not". ANOTHER serious odds on shot stuffed. As Slick told the absolute lemon. Its becoming a habit. Maybe Slick is just lucky. How does he keep doing it the freako must wonder. Time to take up knitting and go for a sherry freaky. And bring all your other usernames with you. Betting is clearly not for you. You're all washed up. You have ZERO credibility left. AGAIN wd slick Grin
Report penzance August 19, 2026 5:02 PM BST
Ombudsman was close enough to strike but do think he was disappointing over all but
hopefully it was the ground.We'll see if he gets fast ground again.
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 5:03 PM BST
They are all thick.

That and or bent! Laugh
Report Hugo-Hackenbush August 19, 2026 5:04 PM BST
slickster 13 Aug 26 15:34
Very very rare I aftertime. Nearly every bet I put up here is well in advance of the race.

Off time: 14:15

slickster 13 Aug 26 14:20
Only laid a ton at 1.06 and a ton at 1.07.

slickster 13 Aug 26 14:27
Oh AND I backed the winner at 2s.

slickster 13 Aug 26 22:02 
Wasn't really a "guess" frico. When you KNOW the 1/4 fav can't win and it's a 2 horse race
Report Hugo-Hackenbush August 19, 2026 5:05 PM BST
slickster 19 Aug 26 12:58 
2.25 gentle hurricane 1pt
3.00 pierre bonnard 2pts
3.35 Constitution river 2pts
5.20 ruler's pride 1pt

Thanks George.

Laugh
Report elisjohn August 19, 2026 5:05 PM BST
my god what a champion we had in frankel, 2-4 year old beat everything on all going , him and the brave best of all time
Report slickster August 19, 2026 5:06 PM BST
Beaten AGAIN at long odds on AND bitter. And making up stuff. How sad. Wd slick.
Report slickster August 19, 2026 5:07 PM BST
At least I put up opinions frico. You are a lily livered useless coward who can't even do that. Like your dummy a sad bitter specimen.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 5:18 PM BST
Lord Lucan will be sighted before Dickster's supposed LaysLaugh
Report slickster August 19, 2026 5:20 PM BST
1.18 layed hours in advance today. Keep fuming dummy.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 5:29 PM BST
Post your mythical bet,Dickster.
Dickster and Delbert hold the distinction of  never being able to post a bet on here.
The Chuckle Brothers
Report slickster August 19, 2026 5:32 PM BST
Mind your own business. Pure and simple nutter.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 5:34 PM BST
Why post claims that you cannot  substantiate,Bullshatter?
We all know whyLaughLaughLaugh
Report Hugo-Hackenbush August 19, 2026 5:40 PM BST
slickster 19 Aug 26 12:58
2.25 gentle hurricane 1pt
3.00 pierre bonnard 2pts
3.35 Constitution river 2pts
5.20 ruler's pride 1pt

Thanks George.   

LOL 
Report formoftheace August 19, 2026 5:48 PM BST
Another good thread in tatters tbh,shameful…
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 5:49 PM BST
Keep off it then
Report brandyontherocks August 19, 2026 5:51 PM BST
Did not look like the far rail was a disadvantage in the concluding sprint.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 5:54 PM BST
They either go on the ground or they don't
Report Storm Alert August 19, 2026 6:52 PM BST
Racing Post Paul Kealy, not holding back on the suggestion that unsuitable ground was to blame for Ombudsman's poor showing.

“I don’t know why we allow people like John Gosden to speak complete and utter nonsense.“ He blamed the ground and said it was soft. It was half a second slower than last year. It couldn’t possibly have been soft ground.

“Gosden said he didn’t handle the ground, but what he got was a bad ride, probably not helped by the supposed pacemaker, Action, dropping out last and staying alongside him the whole way.“ What was he doing trying to get up the inside? Whether he was at his best or not, the ground was a complete nonsense of an excuse."
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 6:56 PM BST
Kealy knows two thirds of F/A,along with most of the rest of the RP Tipsters.
Dineen's Lay of the Meeting hacked up
Report Storm Alert August 19, 2026 7:00 PM BST
He is dead right about the ground excuse.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 7:01 PM BST
He is not,Stormy but we are free to differ
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:02 PM BST
Want another sign?
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:03 PM BST
From the gifted one
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 7:03 PM BST
F/O Delbert,the non betting loon
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:04 PM BST
F/0 ?
Report 1st time poster August 19, 2026 7:05 PM BST
forget last yrs race if you like
forget the grounde ,time, if you like 

concentrate on todays race how do you race just outside standard time on soft ground ?
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:05 PM BST
I know it points to the Arc winner Devil
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:13 PM BST
CagliariG • August 19, 2026 2:03 PM BST
Good luck Foyles, just wonder if the ground has changed enough for Almaqam to outrun his odds, if so he might be an ew but the first two places look booked so wouldn't bet for one place, as you say though no ticket no chance.

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Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:16 PM BST
I hate to abandon Ombudsman in favour of AOB but when it comes to punting, no room for affection. There you go Delashay!!

You should do Wink
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:17 PM BST
I loved chinning you on the line Devil
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 7:19 PM BST
Delbert,the point scoring,non betting loon.
He wonders why people will not debate with him.
This is a perfect exampleLaugh
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:20 PM BST
He tried to sneak in so many and hoped he could do what do!
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:20 PM BST
Unfortunately he’s been roasted again like the others who try talk raaaace
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:21 PM BST
How much you have on da3yr old Mr Spaghetti Silly
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 7:23 PM BST
Dear God.
Delbert is certifiable
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:35 PM BST
Chinned IS CHINNED
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 7:40 PM BST
"I must always be right"LaughLaughLaugh
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:40 PM BST
Try cova yaselfsay wi soo many bases and still come out wronged
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:41 PM BST
Ouch dot gotta rut ur British army rasss
Report brandyontherocks August 19, 2026 7:42 PM BST
Delashay18 Aug 26 19:28Joined: 14 Apr 25 | Topic/replies: 9,960 | Blogger: Delashay's blog
Ditto to what Impossible said Ronnie, you’ve taken a firm view on it and with many not thinking of having a bet, myself included, fair play.
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:43 PM BST
Oh Brandy, Oh Brandy
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:43 PM BST
A lady can change her mind
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:43 PM BST
Don’t you think?
Report brandyontherocks August 19, 2026 7:46 PM BST
Absolutely mate.

But shouldn't come on claiming a winner when you have not said before hand.

House rulesCool
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:46 PM BST
What house
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:47 PM BST
I spoke about the race, presented the winner based on form and reasoning
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:47 PM BST
If people can’t keeeep it’s not my fault
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 7:48 PM BST
Have an night off,you aftertiming loonLaugh
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:48 PM BST
Ahhhhwooooh
Report Storm Alert August 19, 2026 7:51 PM BST
formoftheace 19 Aug 26 17:48 - Another good thread in tatters tbh,shameful…


Yes absolutely right, pathetic tbh.
Report Delashay August 19, 2026 7:55 PM BST
Who ruined it
Report Gagging August 19, 2026 8:58 PM BST
Probably a fast race comsidering the ground, and Buick was too far back, considering the pace and the going - whether he could have been better positioned in the race is debateable but his effort was maybe a little too forced  and petered out.
Report ronnie rails August 19, 2026 9:10 PM BST
Just had a lovely suppet in a nice italian washed down with a couple of glasses of nice wine back at  rhe hotel looking over the river with a nice cognac thinking how lucky i am to be able to enjoy life.enjoy the rest of the great meeting guys and gals.
Ronnie.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 19, 2026 9:30 PM BST
Gagging 19 Aug 26 20:58 
Probably a fast race comsidering the ground, and Buick was too far back, considering the pace and the going - whether he could have been better positioned in the race is debateable but his effort was maybe a little too forced  and petered out.

was level with winner 2f out..winner got hmp..still beat ombudsman 5L.
Report slickster August 19, 2026 10:11 PM BST
Is this the same Ombudsman that was "rock solid" to be in the 1st 3 at 2-11 frico??? You embarrassing clown. AGAIN slick tried to educate you by telling you you're wrong AGAIN. Give it up ydc. You're utterly clueless. Imagine all the bucks slick would have saved you if you weren't so stubborn. Next time you go "full bank" on a 1.06 or 1.16 wait for slicks advice. He hasn't been wrong yet. And you know it ydcc.
Report slickster August 19, 2026 10:14 PM BST
Bubbles telling someone "to have a night off". No words necessary here.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 10:16 PM BST
The only words needed are,post your claimed bets,Dickster
Report slickster August 19, 2026 10:20 PM BST
Some obsession you have bubbles. Surely there's something else to occupy your time in Shakespeare country. How they let in someone from the Hackney marshes is hard to believe.
Report uptheirons August 19, 2026 10:38 PM BST
People who make claimed bets on here should be able to show them as most do.
Even shy and retiring posters like you and Delbert,the bullshatters.
However,all they do is try to deflect away from their ridiculous claims with insultsLaugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2026 9:14 AM BST
it was 'rock solid' on g/f..wasnt 'rock solid' g/s

my p&l is 'rock solid'  dicksters p&l is non existant.

capiche? LOL
Report slickster August 20, 2026 9:19 AM BST
Amazing how slick STILL got it right frico. You shouldn't have opened your trap 6 hours pre race if you were unsure n'est pas.
Fricos drone 3.8. Frico on his own steam down half a million bucks. Pretty obvious to me.
Capiche. Give it up. You're a beaten docket sonny Jim.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2026 9:57 AM BST
slickster 19 Aug 26 12:58
2.25 gentle hurricane 1pt
3.00 pierre bonnard 2pts
3.35 Constitution river 2pts
5.20 ruler's pride 1pt

Thanks George.  Laugh
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