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it would keep the race if won, or if placed
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By cheating,MJK?
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Did the stalls malfunction,no
Therefore. The horse needs a stall test,because it can’t stand in a stall,but it had an equal chance,till it couldn’t stand in a stall. From whip rules,to running off a line, They change the rules each year to suit each incident, The bha have sussed,why should VAR get all the headlines,we need to beat that. |
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would not be a nr if placed
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Of course,TTT
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think they voided a 3rd place @ thirsk last year
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Just a guess irons, they can make it up as they go along. Ive seen enough stewards enquiries last few seasons which resulted in headscratching decisions to not be surprised.
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I hope the steward(s) get named and shamed fully and publicly over this one...
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Yes I am pocket talking, had a nice lay on the favourite which was my main earnings for today. But if you can't play without danger of this, then why bother being a layer on here (or even a backer of another)?
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The guy phoned in who pressured to have the rule after something happened and inconvenienced his horse - he said the rule was not meant for that - I think his was a late opening stall.
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It is a dot on the cards that it is the bloated South African warthog that swayed the day,stu
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yep irons.
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But,he was not denied a chance,he simply caused its own problem
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A change to the Rules of Racing will see BHA Stewards able to declare a non-runner in any race beginning from starting stalls if they believe that a horse has been denied a fair start.
Under the existing Rules, a horse can only be declared a non-runner if it has been prevented from starting due to a faulty action of the starting stalls or if it is riderless at the off. But from 1 May 2024, the powers of the Stewards will be extended to include situations where a horse has been prevented from starting on equal terms and its chances in a race have been materially affected as a consequence. The change – which aligns Britain with the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities (IFHA) model rule and the approach applied by other major racing nations – follows engagement with and feedback from industry stakeholders, including participants and the betting industry, and approval by the BHA Board. Use of the updated Rule will be at the discretion of the BHA Stewards and may include instances where a stalls malfunction causes some stalls to open more slowly than others, as was the case in the 2023 Epsom Dash. It could also cover scenarios where there is a problem with equipment fitted at the start, or a stalls handler is still attempting to assist a horse and jockey when the starting mechanism is triggered. The updated Rule can also be applied in circumstances where a horse has obtained an unfair advantage at the start, for example if a runner forces the gates open prematurely before the Starter has triggered the starting mechanism. However, a horse will not be declared a non-runner if it merely accelerates the gates once the Starter has operated the starting mechanism. Any consideration by the Stewards will always precede the ‘weighed in’ signal, with participants, racegoers and the betting public alerted that an incident at the start of the race is being reviewed. |
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Two tier (seems to be the phrase of the moment) then? Outcome hinges on whether or not the race is or is not part of "World Pool". Ludicrous.
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would imagine some vested interest in the world pool needed this voiding
why backstop rule was brought in imo nothing to do with equity & fair starts |
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Life was so much simpler when we argued about 8 or 10 strikes of the whip.
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Supposing the horses foot was high,but not quite on the metal one the stalls,does this mean it’s a non runners.
How high should its leg be. |
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Horse misbehaviour
Where a horse’s own behaviour alone, after the starting mechanism has been operated, results in the horse being unable to start on equal terms, the horse shall not be declared a non-runner. However, if a horse, for example, kicks out and gets caught in the starting gates before the starting mechanism has been operated, and the starter is unaware leading to the horse being unable to start on equal terms as a result, the Stewards can consider declaring a non-runner. |
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the general you
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Where a horse’s own behaviour alone, after the starting mechanism has been operated, results in the horse being unable to start on equal terms, the horse shall not be declared a non-runner.
Clearly, that is applicable here. And they have got it wrong (that is lifted from the BHA site) |
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Cider • June 6, 2026 5:20 PM BST
Where a horse’s own behaviour alone, after the starting mechanism has been operated, results in the horse being unable to start on equal terms, the horse shall not be declared a non-runner. yep clear in their own rules cider |
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Someone needs to tell the horses - the footrail is for the jockey, occasionally the stalls handler - defo not them - didnt they get the email?!
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You cannot have such a subjective rule administered by the hooray henry, chinless, guffawing, old etonians ! What if the jockeys leg is caught - you can go on forever with scenarios.
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Getting your leg over has never been this complicated!
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I suppose it could be argued the incident started before the starting mechanism had been operated. Still the horse's behaviour alone, and out of vision of the starter.
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the stalls open less than 1s after moore looks around
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the horse hasn't been hooked on the gate for 5-10s & then he's let them go with the horse being left at the start or losing lengths
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yes. literally by the letter of the rules though. I suppose it's analogous with a horse rearing and then the starter lets them go. Would the starter let them go if he knew it had it's leg on the side, no. I think it's the wrong outcome but a strict interpretation of the rule might allow it, daft as it seems.
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if it rears & has its leg on the side 1s before the stalls open
its a runner |
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if you watch the horse today actually gets an ok start
breaks midfield or slightly worse of midfield that's all |
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held up @ chester
with pacemakers here I'd say moore was satisfied with early position for all a cleaner start would have been preferable |
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the starter wouldn't/shouldn't let them go, if a horse is actively rearing. like if it had been on its hind legs for 3 seconds, and then he pressed the button with it still up, it could be a noner.
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I will put up a world pool thread.
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The race is over the horse cant start on three legs init
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Bending the knee to the World Pool is becoming a strong favourite.
Utterly appalling |
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Just accept that you were blessed,you clueless moron,abba
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