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Delashay
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The draw has been made

Let’s start with the trends:
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Report blackbarn May 31, 2026 3:08 PM BST
Anyone else watching Chantilly on France Galop?  My french is not great but I love the coverage of French racing.  Good ride by Oisin in the last and his Franglais is pretty good, doesn't quite stretch to "lovely draw" though.
Report Andrew-In-Sweden May 31, 2026 3:12 PM BST
Yes Blackburn, i always do for French Racing.
Report Andrew-In-Sweden May 31, 2026 3:13 PM BST
Blackbarn even
Report Life-Lucky May 31, 2026 3:18 PM BST
Thanks Del, that looked like hard work but I didn't see the horse being 'asked a serious question' so who knows
Report FOYLESWAR May 31, 2026 3:18 PM BST
montreal and campasite will do for me ew win places on here  good luck all.
Report blackbarn May 31, 2026 3:19 PM BST
No bother Andrew!!. easily done.  Our coverage could learn a lot from FG.
Report Busyfool May 31, 2026 3:20 PM BST
oui. et equidia

how far behind is it?
Report breadnbutter May 31, 2026 3:28 PM BST
Sky coverage very poor, still not seen horses, the shot from padock over hedge looks like someone holding a phone, all the interviews, then ads but no horses, will waste more time and prob miss parade, disappointing.

One might think they don't want to show the HORSES.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! May 31, 2026 3:47 PM BST
YAWN
Devil
Report penzance May 31, 2026 3:48 PM BST
Aiden 1.2,3.
Top training.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 3:48 PM BST
Can someone tell me why Montreal the pacemaker was allowed to load last and out of order? Confused

Because that stinks yet again.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 3:49 PM BST
Last in first out.
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 3:49 PM BST
They set their own pace and the others sat there
Report Angela Rebecchi May 31, 2026 3:50 PM BST
Think Hawk Mountain would have won over River if you swap jockeys. Ryan gave it a peach, Christophe waited rather long to try to get Hawk giving his all.
Report Angela Rebecchi May 31, 2026 3:50 PM BST
Daryzan was about a dozen lengths behind Cons River 5 out Laugh
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 3:50 PM BST
Don't be a sore loser Delbert.
somebody had to be last in
Report saxon farm May 31, 2026 3:50 PM BST
Another magnificent training performance.
Report KeynesKeynes May 31, 2026 3:51 PM BST
Moore would have one on any of first three. Other two looked terrible, or was this the plan?
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 3:51 PM BST
Tactics were not too shabby eitherLaugh
Report impossible123 May 31, 2026 3:52 PM BST
Con River did very well to win from that draw. The AOB's trio was in the front 3 throughout with Montral making the pace followed by Hawk Mountain with Con River a close up 3rd.

A case of numbers win?
Report saxon farm May 31, 2026 3:52 PM BST
Absolutely uptheirons!
Report FOYLESWAR May 31, 2026 3:52 PM BST
well done winners ,mine 3rd and unplaced ,cant complain
Report Angela Rebecchi May 31, 2026 3:53 PM BST

May 31, 2026 -- 3:50PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


Think Hawk Mountain would have won over River if you swap jockeys. Ryan gave it a peach, Christophe waited rather long to try to get Hawk giving his all.


Gave each other a nice smile and fist bump after the line. Certainly seemed that Soumillon wasn't keen to go all out when he knew it was Cons River next to him Laugh

Report penzance May 31, 2026 3:53 PM BST
The horse could've folded & they never.
Report roggrain May 31, 2026 3:54 PM BST
Very disappointing race. It was a workout for the first three and the rest just sat back and did

nothing until it was far too late.
Report blackbarn May 31, 2026 3:54 PM BST
Delashay31 May 26 15:48 - Can someone tell me why Montreal the pacemaker was allowed to load last and out of order? Confused Because that stinks yet again.

Gosh, that must have been a real struggle to find something negative to say about that.  Well done!!!
Report Frogger May 31, 2026 3:54 PM BST
Montreal - previously named 'Piedmont'
Glad he's not coming 3rd in the Derby next week - geezers at Unibet aren't good reconciling name changes
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND May 31, 2026 3:54 PM BST
FANCIED Constitution River big time, see the draw and just had a small e/w on Montreal... very small. The jockeys just did not read it, felt like a race where 3 rank outsiders bolted off in front and the apprentices behind were caught out. Brilliant planning by AOB.... Poor reflection of those behind.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 3:55 PM BST
Delashay • May 27, 2026 6:13 PM
the French handicapper has River & Mountain top rated so odd you’d run them against eachother.

Well done to the French Handicapper Wink
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 3:57 PM BST
Delbert gets annoyed when his multitude of pre race posts don't work out,blackbarn
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 3:57 PM BST
The other runners loaded in stall order, you might be ok with the obvious pacemaker not doing, I ain’t.
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 3:59 PM BST
At least you didn't aftertime the winner,Delbert.Laugh
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 3:59 PM BST
penzance • May 31, 2026 10:42 AM BST
Sharmadal won this from 13 when it was run over 10F from 12F for the 1ST time.
Famous Name just beat (HD) from 17.
Wonder if Moore will try to get away from the stalls sharpish to  him over more
to the inside early.
Should be a good race.
Report• Quote • Block User uptheirons • May 31, 2026 11:20 AM BST
As I cannot be bothered to read all your posts,have you actually had a bet in the race,Delbert?
I have not.
Report• Quote • Block User Delashay • May 31, 2026 11:25 AM BST
There’s a common theme when horses have won from wide. That is that they’ve been milers/10f types stepping up in trip beating stayers.

3/1 New Bay drawn (13) on good beat 10/1 Highland Reel (9)

No race comments available.


4/1 Shamardal (13) on good beat 6/5f Hurricane Run (5)

1st “Made all, ridden and quickened clear 1 1/2f out, held on well”

2nd “Held up in touch, disputing 7th on outside straight, pushed along over 2f out, ridden and ran on 1 1/2f out, finished strongly final 150yds”

- - - - - -

(20) Lope DeVega 20/1 on soft beat 9/2 Planteur (10)

1st “Broke well, tracked leader until went on going well 3f out, soon clear, comfortably”

2nd “Disputed 3rd, went 2nd 3f out, soon ridden and unable to go with leader, stayed on but no impression final 300yds”

Planteur had a pace maker who Lope followed, that fell away.

So looking back Moore will have likley to be handy and use up gas to sit in behind a stable mate near the front and not be held up and ride for luck.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! May 31, 2026 4:00 PM BST
Graphard was
IMPRESSED
Laugh
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 4:00 PM BST
I could work that out but the French jocks couldn’t! Crazy
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 4:01 PM BST
The utterly predictable Aftertime from Delbert.
He just cannot help himselfLaughLaugh
Report Life-Lucky May 31, 2026 4:03 PM BST
the Irons relegated. Is there a second division here that one of their fans could be sent off to?
Report blackbarn May 31, 2026 4:05 PM BST
Delashay31 May 26 15:57Joined: 14 Apr 25 | Topic/replies: 7,618 | Blogger: Delashay's blog
The other runners loaded in stall order, you might be ok with the obvious pacemaker not doing, I ain’t.

Trainer just has to ask!   "Horse gets fractious in the stalls etc".  I mean you would wouldn't you?  Well maybe you wouldn't cos you didn't know about it.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 4:05 PM BST
Turns out I was right weren’t I!

They turned the high draw to their advatange.

Moore in THiRD LAST then stall 16 then their PACEMAKER!

Funny Alam finished up with them, the rest had to sit and fell asleep!
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 4:06 PM BST
The cretin is fumingLaugh
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 4:06 PM BST
Well done FAV BACKERS and Ballydoyle FANBOYS! Laugh
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 4:08 PM BST
You got it wrong Delbert.
Get over it
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 4:09 PM BST
At least I gave my opinion Irons when asked unlike yourself EVER.
Report brandyontherocks May 31, 2026 4:10 PM BST
Was Montreal out of loading order?
He was #8, so should be last or second to last.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 4:11 PM BST
I’m the only one who said here Ryan wouldn’t sit out the back, you can’t do that at Chantilly! Wink

He was loaded stone cold last Brandy.

7, went in, then 9
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 4:11 PM BST
Then 10, 11, 12, …
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 4:13 PM BST
But,you didn't Delbert.did youLaugh
You said that you had backed two (not the winner though)but declined to name them when repeatedly asked
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 4:14 PM BST
Autistics can never be wrongLaughLaughLaugh
Report brandyontherocks May 31, 2026 4:14 PM BST
I thought it was;
1&9
2&10
3&11
Etc
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 4:15 PM BST
BTW,I did say that I had no bet in the race
Report brandyontherocks May 31, 2026 4:15 PM BST
Anyway.
Great performance from there.
OBrien again has his horses spot on for the big day.
Seven European classics so far, and he has nailed five of them.
Report penzance May 31, 2026 4:17 PM BST
Read they go in stall order in France from the rail out,whether that's the case
wouldn't be sure.I know Hanklow was in 1ST.
Report Andrew-In-Sweden May 31, 2026 4:24 PM BST
I’m the only one who said here Ryan wouldn’t sit out the back, you can’t do that at Chantilly

You can, watch Arc Impact

Brillant tactics and training performance by AOB with a superb ride from Ryan. Reading the tracking report, Montreal set a reasonable pace (12 sec+) and quickened at the 600 metre mark, CR had 2 x sub 12 second sectionals at 600 and 400 metres. Winning time was fast by 3.18 seconds. A very good horse who may have won at Epsom as well, as mentioned on my thread if he was in contention off the bend he would win cosily. Hard to work, but was going away at the end. One to follow in my opinion.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 4:24 PM BST
Maybe other trainers should ask to go in last, I posted last year about Moore always going in last in the big fields here especially at Ascot.

Your bet Pen sat for donks whilst they ripped it out of everyone. So the low draw was the benefit that it seemed.

Beware come the Arc.
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 4:27 PM BST
Don't let it fester,DelbertLaugh
Report Andrew-In-Sweden May 31, 2026 4:38 PM BST
In France, the starter directs the loading process, horses are loaded based on their draw number in sequence, odd numbers first, then even numbers. Ryan did not choose when to go in. Nervous horses can be loaded in last swith permission of the starter.
Report penzance May 31, 2026 4:50 PM BST
Hankelow was in a good position but was clearly not good enough.
Perhaps he didn't stay but he ran a shocker whatever way you look
at it.
Report Jumper45 May 31, 2026 5:02 PM BST
The funny thing is the TV have to interview MV, the son, rather than old man Magnier, after his recent legal indiscretions.
Report GEORGE.B May 31, 2026 5:16 PM BST
Well done on the place 'ace & Foyles.
Report breadnbutter May 31, 2026 5:38 PM BST

May 31, 2026 -- 3:08PM, blackbarn wrote:


Anyone else watching Chantilly on France Galop?

Report impossible123 May 31, 2026 5:42 PM BST
The AOB jockeys executed a well-conceived plan with perfection. Were the other participants not aware of it? Why was there not a ploy to frustrate them?
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 5:45 PM BST
Obviously not
Report penzance May 31, 2026 5:48 PM BST
Why would they be aware of what the O'brien jockeys will do.
Jockeys ride their own race.Lee got out early on Hanklow &
decided to tuck in when he could've led.That's why He runs
more than 1 a lot of the time.1ST,2ND & 3RD.
Report impossible123 May 31, 2026 5:54 PM BST
The winner storms into The ARC picture, according to the RP. How disingenuous can they be? The horse has never done 12f, skips Epsom and very unlikely to go for the Irish Derby either. Also, has AOB ever sent a 10f PJDC winner (colt) to The ARC in October?
Report saxon farm May 31, 2026 6:01 PM BST
^
imbecile 123
It is more disingenuous of you, not to complete the RP quote

Brilliant Constitution River storms into Arc picture - but too many unknowns remain over Longchamp highlight.

Now get back to your street begging, you pathetic urchin.
Report A_T May 31, 2026 6:12 PM BST
Aidan would never send a horse to France if he thought it could win the Derby. He probably thinks 10f is it's limit.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 8:27 PM BST
Why are you having a go at I possible for highlighting the hype of the media and claiming that his quire is disingenuous?

They’ve been quick to quote this :

Coral reacted by making Constitution River 5-2 second favourite for the Eclipse behind Ombudsman, while Paddy Power halved his Arc odds to 8-1 (from 16).

Prices, prices when never is ever put down as a definite aim!
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 8:29 PM BST
Aidan would never send a horse to France if he thought it could win the Derby. He probably thinks 10f is it's limit.

Really?

What’s he hinting at here?

“We’ll discuss it but I imagine the Lads will take their time with him and he could come back in the autumn.”

Ahh the Champion Stakes!
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 8:39 PM BST
Delashay • May 28, 2026 12:13 PM BST
Thanks guys for sharing your early thoughts.

Andrew as someone who knows French racing you’ll know that they tend to go that bit faster in the Jockey Club to grab a position early.
All the talk about whether River would stay the Derby trip, I’d say he’ll have to from that draw.


Both Moore and O'Brien performed at the height of their powers, but the real star of the show was Constitution River, who recorded the third-fastest time in the race since it was cut in distance 21 years ago. In doing so he ran two and a half metres further than the runner-up and almost four metres further than the trailblazing Montreal.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 8:42 PM BST
“He’s the sort of horse who could do whatever you ask him to do. He could drop back to a mile and I think he’d get a mile and a half if you needed him to.

I.e. if you paint scrape on the rail.

Or Breeders Cup Turf because we don’t know that he goes on soft.
Report Delashay May 31, 2026 8:54 PM BST
Well done Ace & Foyles with Montreal

I was impressed with how he even lasted to fight out the finish given his rousting. I’d written somewhere that I felt he could be a GPDP type and the way he stayed in there he could be.

Think back to the Queens Vase at Ascot last year and how hard Scandinavia was ridden, ok over a longer distance but their fight and courageous staying on when others would down tools is very similar.
Report uptheirons May 31, 2026 9:20 PM BST
Not going to say who you backed Delbert?
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 8:06 AM BST
I backed Pearl Necklace @ 50/1 & Dollybird @ 28/1 AP

I traded out or greened out as you guys say, I can take that they weren’t good enough, but I dislike the methods employed to gain victory.
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 8:08 AM BST
SP’s

2. Dolmalan  (IRE) 11/1

12. Pearled Majesty  10/1
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 9:42 AM BST
I’ve only watched the race once but have noticed something interesting from just seeing the photo after the stalls opened.
What I saw is reflected in the finish.

Those drawn high who were perceived to be at a disadvantage were in fact advantaged by how the race was run.

Result by draw :

15 > >  joint top rated
11 >  > joint top rated
8 - 
13 - 37/1
16 - 100/1
6
10
5 - 4th top rated (Gostom)
2 - 5th top rated (Pearled Majesty)
7 - 2nd top rated (Komorebi)
9
3 - 4th top rated (Oxogon)
1 - 3rd top rated (Hankelow)
12
4
14

Why is this? Because those drawn low (which you’d see from the photo) were in a bunch fighting for position along the rail. They weren’t able to use their strides effectively or get into a racing rhythm.

Those in front could stride on whilst the big priced finishers were able to one run down the outside and on the inside past horses who’d had already spent their energy early.

Yes it was clever, but it’s NOT the making of a champion, the bunched finish reflects how they were helped in the running.
Report kevo June 1, 2026 10:01 AM BST
Delashay and his dogmatic posts has all the hallmarks of Eric Morris.
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 10:04 AM BST
Let me tell you Kev there is only one DELA and if you can’t see the sense in what I’ve shared then you’ll lose out next time some of these run!

So please don’t compare me to some other other bod that’s been here before.

The facts are above in B&W and the opinion is given with an underline! Wink
Report kevo June 1, 2026 10:05 AM BST
OK Eric
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 10:27 AM BST
Righty ho and welcome to the ‘Doughnut of the day award’ Laugh
Report uptheirons June 1, 2026 10:32 AM BST
Endless reams of stats and C&P drive people away particularly after the event,Delbert.
You are an obsessive who tries to show how smart you are and prove the exact opposite
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 10:41 AM BST
Yeah ok at least I understand what I saw yesterday, I expect you’ll see racing journos writing about it soon. Wink
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 10:43 AM BST
What might they write about??

How the perceived high draw was turned on its head as shown by the finish and the placing of those who were fully able to use their strides effectively and efficiently.

One coming along the rail for 4th the other down the outside for a narrow 5th.
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 10:46 AM BST
Keep hating the, “betting shop mug” who backed 50/1 that went off at 10/1 and 28/1 that went off @ 11/1! Wink

who tries to show how smart you are and prove the exact opposite

Shrewd I’d say! Love
Report uptheirons June 1, 2026 11:01 AM BST
In that case post your bet on BF,DelbertLaugh
Report uptheirons June 1, 2026 11:03 AM BST
The only known way to shut the loon upLaugh
Report Delashay June 1, 2026 11:08 AM BST
Please don’t push this further away with petty talk as some might derive some information what I’ve taken time to type out manually, no C&P.
Cheers.


Delashay • June 1, 2026 9:42 AM BST
I’ve only watched the race once but have noticed something interesting from just seeing the photo after the stalls opened.
What I saw is reflected in the finish.

Those drawn high who were perceived to be at a disadvantage were in fact advantaged by how the race was run.

Result by draw :

15 > >  joint top rated
11 >  > joint top rated
8 -
13 - 37/1
16 - 100/1
6
10
5 - 4th top rated (Gostom)
2 - 5th top rated (Pearled Majesty)
7 - 2nd top rated (Komorebi)
9
3 - 4th top rated (Oxogon)
1 - 3rd top rated (Hankelow)
12
4
14

Why is this? Because those drawn low (which you’d see from the photo) were in a bunch fighting for position along the rail. They weren’t able to use their strides effectively or get into a racing rhythm.

Those in front could stride on whilst the big priced finishers were able to one run down the outside and on the inside past horses who’d had already spent their energy early.

Yes it was clever, but it’s NOT the making of a champion, the bunched finish reflects how they were helped in the running.
Report impossible123 June 1, 2026 4:57 PM BST
If Con River was special, Hawk Mountain would be special too. Two special horses in the same race? What would that make Montreal? He was only about 1l behind Con River. Bering won the same race when it was over 12f.
Report saxon farm June 2, 2026 12:37 AM BST
imbecile 123
How would you rate ‘em?
Report MJK June 2, 2026 6:36 AM BST
Didn't see the race live and had no bet. Two things, the race distance was short judging by the early time and the ground was faster than they said it was officially. HRC will always be my favourite trainer but O'Brien is now clearly the greatest of all time.
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 7:41 AM BST
How about giving how you rate him and his run after having the assistance of his stable mates?

And if name calling is your only forte then stay off the thread and take it elsewhere, intelligent discussion is only welcome here.
Report brandyontherocks June 2, 2026 8:16 AM BST
Im obviously missing something.

In a 16 runner, 10f race around Chantilly, surely being prominent is the place to be.

All three OBrien horses got themselves in the right place to give themselves the best chance.

It is not as though Montreal and Hawk Mountain got to the front and put the brakes on to allow Constitution River to get in. He had to work his way qcross and get in BEHIND the front two.

Take Montreal and Hawk Mountain out of the race and Constitution River would have been sat on the shoulder of Hankelow and arguably had an easier passage.
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 8:27 AM BST
Brandy you’re right that that was the place to be, you can’t come from the back and win on fast ground there. The difference is he was able to sit going at their pace, the others in behind were actually inconvenienced by their low draws as I tried to show in the final result.

He could have sat in his shoulder (Hank) be he also could have had horses come around him and make him run earlier or hussle him.
He had the smoothest passage possible.
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 8:30 AM BST
“We were the first three but the fourth and fifth came from near-on last so it felt a well-run race where everything had its opportunity…”

That’s AOB or Moore from the post, the 4th came down the rail the 5th on the outside. They were able to use their strides effectively whereas the others in the pack couldn’t.
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 8:38 AM BST
This illustrates that point :

Mikel Delzangles, meanwhile, saw his two charges finish fifth and sixth – Alam and Dolmalan were the best French performers of the day. “Alam had a very poor barrier draw (16). He doesn’t yet have the experience to push hard from the start, but he finished the race very strongly,” explained the Cantilian trainer. “Dolmalan didn’t get out of his stall very well. He had to fight to hold his position, which cost him a bit in the finish, but he runs well too.”

What he says there is exactly what I’ve been trying to explain. When you fight to hold your place you’re wasting energy, you can’t stride out efficiently.

So it’s no wonder that he was nabbed on the line for 4th by two noses basically.
Report brandyontherocks June 2, 2026 8:54 AM BST
All it shows is that horses off of the pace saved energy and finished strongly.

The front three used energy at the start but were superior enough to still stay on up the straight, in my opinion.
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 8:55 AM BST
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 9:02 AM BST
The 4 th and 5th are inside River there.

It shows that being drawn high was an advantage. There’s been doubt about whether he’d stay 1m 4f I said that he’d stay it easy and would have to do so from that draw.

I also said that Montreal could be a GPDP horse, both stay. Let’s not forget that he was talked up falsely earlier in the year as being a dark one for the Derby.

In jumps racing they talk about getting into a rhythm, it’s the same on the flat.

To me it’s no surprise that the pack on the left were at a disadvantage. Too many ran too badly to be true. So you have to ask or look as to why that was.

I’m not denying that they weren’t good enough on the day but I do debate whether they ran to their best and ask could River have done it on his own?

I’ve said that the likes of Treve never needed this assistance and to be a true champion I’d prefer not to see these tactics.
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 9:07 AM BST
I’ll also say this I’m not sure that Soumi gave everything on Hawk. I’ve watched him for many years and know how he rides in a finish from his style and body language. There appeared to be more left there.
That reminded me of the Oaks last year with the fav being ridden to get the result.

Maybe we’ve seen a champion or maybe we saw a horse use his energy to his best, but let’s not forget the horse who inspired this wide ride, Golden Horn, he too did it on his own.

As a purest I’d of liked to have seen River do the same and put distance on the pack all by himself.
Report brandyontherocks June 2, 2026 9:26 AM BST
Watching the race a few times, I see no reason why Constitution River would not have won without the other two Ballydoyle runners.
The plan would have been the same, and he had the speed to get into that position.
Report Delashay June 2, 2026 9:33 AM BST
Thanks for giving your opinion and answering my question Brandy, this is what it should be about.

Let’s not forget that Hawk and River were both top rated going into the race by the French handicapper.

How they raced helped them, whilst others weren’t able to improve on theirs as Montreal did.
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