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Andrew-In-Sweden
08 Feb 26 15:09
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Good afternoon Guys,

A new year (albeit belated) so a new thread, following on from the initial one i started in April 2018 and repeated every year since.

The past few years have been dismal in terms of P/L lay selections, generally due to mega workload and travelling. Although the P/L selections reduced dramatically there were winners (and losers) not only from myself, but others that actually like to discuss horse racing. I really appreciate the efforts from those involved and the thread per se appears to still be popular even if the forum isn't what it was.

The P/L lay selection format is based on only one post in any given day (to prevent chasing) bookmaker odds of 5/2 or under and matched to win a stake of £50 (not liability). Overall, the threads since 2018 are in profit, but posting a P/L for the past few years is actually meaningless due to the few selections, but at least there is transparency and all on a single thread.

Lay Threads Record

Andrews Daily Lay Thread 2018 (Spring/Summer)
Total 66 selections
Success 55/66
Strike rate 83%
Thread profit +£1657

Andrews Daily Lay Thread 2018 (late Summer/Winter)
Total 64 selections
Success 46/64
Strike rate 72%
Thread profit +£425

Andrews Random Daily Lay Thread 2019
Total 78 selections
Success 55/78
Strike rate 70%
Thread profit +£219

Andrews Random Lay Thread 2020
Total 36 selections
Success 25/36
Strike rate 69%
Thread profit +£79

Andrews 2021 Lay Thread
Total 28 selections
Success 18/28
Strike rate 64%
Thread profit +£0.50

Andrews 2022 Lay Thread
Total 18 selections
Success 10/18
Strike rate 55%
Thread Loss -£202.50

Andrews 2023 Lay Thread
Total 6 selections
Success 2/6
Strike rate 33%
Thread Loss -£362.50

Andrews 2024 Lay Thread
Total 6 selections
Success 2/6
Strike rate 33%
Thread loss -£169

Andrews 2025 Lay Thread
Total 10 selections
Success 7/10
Strike rate 70%
Thread loss +£74

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Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 08 Feb 26 15:10
On a personal note, my workload is still high, consulting for 2 clients on the AirTech Aerospace campus west of München and another based in UK/Turkey (remotely) but this could reduce in time in what may even be my last year in Germany (albeit communting to Sweden and England often) so i fully expect to surpass the number of selections i posted in 2025.

Regular readers know i'm part of the Fellowship Racing Syndicate who had runners, Salamanca Lad and Calibos with Dan and Claire Kübler, both sold at the HIT sales in October 2023 and 2024 respectively (the horses, not the humans) now replaced with a once raced filly Lady Of Clover trained by George Scott in Newmarket. She's expected to run at Chelmsford in a class 4 novice next Thursday.

Agouti Bear, my Irish based filly with Kildare Racing has been sold for breeding, so only one runner at present.

We (including several posters on here) have been very lucky as owners, 3 horses, all winners, 5 in fact. Salamanca won 3 (beaten a head once) and only finished outside the top 4 once in 11 races. He's currently racing in Bahrain where he has won twice, finished 3rd in a £36K to the winner handicap LTO and ran in Listed class in his penltimate run. Calibos won at Windsor and similar to SL was only outside the top 4 twice in 11 races. Now with Jo Davis who trains near Swindon and will make his hurdle debut soon. Agouti Bear won at Sligo and finished 2nd at the Curragh, Naas and Navan.

I was at the DRF last weekend with a few of the usual guys, good company as always, all with a great sense of homour, so lots of banter and occasional sensible horse racing and football debates. I've mentioned on here several times how much i love going to Ireland, very friendly people, laid back and quality racing, i can't wait for Punchestown in April and it may have stopped raining by then.

The weather was horrendous on the Friday afternoon and evening, so we more or less guessed the meeting would be cancelled for Saturday at least, the rain was incessant. We spent a few evening hours in Molloys Sportsbar (Tallaght) watching football on Sky (i use the term loosely) as it was my home team Bristol City, who were unlucky losers at home 0-5). Not much was said after the game and rightly so.

Saturdays weather wasn't much better, but to compensate we spent most of the day in the city and O'Neills Bar, back to Molloys in the evening (both bars are recommended, good food in each).

Before going to Leopardstown, my banker bet for the meeting was Romeo Coolio in the Arkle, i had already backed at 1.62; expected him to win and thought i could use some of the winnings to play on the following day, but the best laid plans etc. I didn't play in every race, but couldn't find a single winner and to rub salt in my wounds, i backed Ballyfad who was beaten in a photo, i couldn't believe it when the fav was called the winner by a short head. He did well to be fair, one of the few to come from way off the pace and win, he looks decent.

I met Simon Nott for a chat, he was 'blogging' for AK bets.

I didn't to to the course on Monday as i had a KLM lunchtime return flight, but the other 3 guys went, and one of them backed Romeo Coolio (4/7) again on my behalf.  Thankfully he won, although it was a still a losing DRF fixture for me, but it could have been a lot worse. I was still on my flight home when the race was run, so i didn't see it live, if i had, i would have thought he was beaten at one stage. To give him credit, he idled when clear on the run-in, but another 25 metres and he was beaten.

Going back in trip for the Cheltenham Arkle is certainly not a positive, assuming he's entered there. Irrespective of this, i've always thought he was pretty decent, you don't win three Grade 1 novice chases before Cheltenham by being anything but, and i'm confident he will win one or even two more before season end.

The most impressive winner of the meeting was Majborough, but very soft going, first time cheekpieces and given an easy lead on a course that suits front runners obviously aided him; i'm not convined he can do the same at Cheltenham and may be laying him.

Brighterdaysahead also won well, but i would back Lossiemouth to beat her in the Cheltenham CH, although the latter will probably go for the Mares anyway. Another potential lay at the festival is Final Demand, but more on these in March.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.
By:
formoftheace
When: 08 Feb 26 15:42
Always respect honesty.WD.
By:
ashleigh
When: 08 Feb 26 15:42
Andrew, good to see you are still posting.Happy
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 09 Feb 26 19:18
Nice to see you post Andrew, one of the good guys on the forum.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Feb 26 19:30
Good evening Andrew agree about Majborough wasn’t a huge fan but couldn’t believe what I was seeing ,did you bump into workrider I’ve not seen or heard from him for quite a while.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 11 Feb 26 19:23
Good evening Guys,

Many thanks for the posts, appreciated as always.

Jimnast

Majborough was very impressive visually and if he can replicate that perfomnance at Cheltenham we may have another Sprinter Sacre to watch, but i have my doubts. Yes, we met up with Workrider in Dublin, we always do. A nice guy, he took us to Leopardstown from/to our hotel and joined us in Molloys and an Indian restaurant. He knows everyone over there (you know this anyway). I hope life is good with you and yours, last time we met was Ascot (NH) ?

I'm not a fan of AW, but in the finale at Kempton i thought the likely fav Portoro was layable. A couple of wins on the AW over tonights 7f trip, but both in a photo, the last off a mark of 56 a year ago. Runs off 60 this evening so a PB required. Tends to run from off the pace and drawn wide. 2nd in his penultimate run on course, but that was over 6f, since finished 5th over 7f here. May need a little luck in running. Not a race to be backing in and it's difficult to find the winner; i would plump for My Boy Harry EW if a gun was put to my head.

Our filly Lady Of Clover runs at Chelmsford tomorrow (7.00). A 170,000 guineas Kodi Bear yearling, so somebody saw something in her back in time, but we are not expecting anything, in fact she may be finishing her race after security have locked the gates. Laugh

Good luck and have a nice evening all.
By:
Lampus
When: 11 Feb 26 19:49
Thank You   ANDREW   Grin
By:
Lampus
When: 11 Feb 26 20:14
THANK YOU   ANDREW  GrinGrin
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Feb 26 09:37
Think Lampus has a soft spot for Andrew……Wink
By:
jimnast
When: 12 Feb 26 14:40
Thanks Andrew

Good to hear workrider is well and enjoying life as he does ,good luck at Chelmsford tonight  ,regarding majborough yes he looked good but I very much doubt I’ll ever see a more talented chaser than sprinter sacre ,but I did say that about a flat horse in 1986 and  24 years later one came along ,not sure if one comes around again in 24 years I’ll be around to see it.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 14 Feb 26 13:02
Good afternoon Guys,

Thank you for the posts.

Pushed for time, but a few thoughts.

A reasonable afternoon of NH racing without going overboard, although from a betting perspective, i didn't see one i fancied too strongly, backing or laying. Several shorties running at various meetings, but i wouldn't be in a hurry to back Jonbon in the Ascot Chase at 8/15, although i'm not suggesting he won't win.

Another i thought was more lay than back is Mondoui'boy in the opener (1.15) on the same card. Probably better than his breeding suggests he will be, but i see him more of a staying type and may prefer it softer. Won well LTO, but it wasn't a strong maiden and only a couple got into the race.

If there is a buying money bet maybe the favourite Forever Young in the Saudi Cup (Riyadh 5.40) the worlds richest race is the safest option, albeit 1.66 is not for everyone. Won this race last year and went on to win the Breeders Classic.

At much better odds, Whiskey Yankee is a tentative EW choice in the Grade 2 novice hurdle (Haydock 2.40). The most inexpereinceed in the field, but looked promising at Ascot LTO and has any amount of improvement in him. Could be heading for the Albert Bartlett next month if he performs well here. Currently 13/2 with the books.

Jimnast

Our filly Lady Of Clover ran as expected at Chelmsford on Thursday evening, keen, still a bit green, but will improve of course. Sprinter Sacre is my favourite chaser and i followed him over a cliff, but unfortunately not when he won the CC in 2016.

Formoftherace

Lampus has posted on my thread for years, i don't know him, but we both have connections to the best county in England. Happy
By:
Lampus
When: 14 Feb 26 13:11
Thank you ANDREW  G/L Happy
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 15 Feb 26 12:15
Good afternoon All,

Lampus

Thank you, but probably a wasted 10 minutes typing yesterday with my suggested lay Mondoui'boy winning (albeit 8/11f) and the tentative EW choice Whiskey (7/1) only finishing 5th after a bad mistake at the 3rd and another at the 7th. Stayed on well on the run-in, but simply not his day.

I was never going to back or lay Jonbon at Ascot, but fair play to him i thought he was beaten at one point. An exciting race to watch and a deserving winner who probably doesn't get the recognition he deserves, 12 G1's and never out of the front 2 places in 27 runs, an incredible CV.

The saving grace in my post was Forever Young (we can all pick these) who won the worlds richest race, the Saudi Cup at Riyadh. I backed at 1.66 and 1.67, but was surprised when he drifted to a high of 1.79, although money buyers must have lumped on late afternoon as the BSP was 1.49. Next up is the Dubai World Cup and although he won the Breeders cup in 2024, could miss it this year in favour of staying in Japan.

Over at Flemington, Australia, the latest sprinting sensation over there, the Goldolphin owned Tentyris was impressive coming from last to first when winning the G1 Black Caviar Lightening Stakes (5f) showing a very good turn of foot. The Kings Stand at Royal Ascot has been mentioned; Native Strip won the same double and went on to win the Everest, the richest turf race in the world. Whether he comes over or not, if he keeps winning, a match up with superstar sprinter Ka Ying Rising in the pre-mentioned race in October will be worth watching.

On to this afternoon, the meetings in GB are ordinary at best, but at least there are a couple of listed races at Punchestown, one of them a Grand National trial. I did consider putting up my first P/L lay selection Heads Up in the other one, a novice hurdle (3.00) but it's drifted, so i will swerve it and maybe look for another.

At Musselburgh, Nicky Hendeson runs the 600,000 guineas purchase Fantasy World in an Egg and Spoon maiden hurdle (1.50). He should win and go on to run in the Triumph next month, but i fail to see why you would pay that much for a listed winner (off 89) even if the form has been franked. I should have studied bloodstock, not Aerospace Engineering.

I certainly won't be backing anything to win this afternoon, but if there is a shortie at odds against, it could be Tarbat Ness (2.12 Newcastle) for a small stake. Won well and had a couple of these behind him LTO, although giving weight to The Crafty Master will not be so easy.

At much better odds, a win and 4/TBP on Ney (2.30 Punchestown) could result in a profit, running well recently and has a 1-2 record on course. No stranger to heavy going with a 1-1-5-6-2 record over fences. Currently trading at 17.0 for the win.

Looking ahead, i noticed Constitution Hill (my favourite hurdler) has been quoted at 4/6 for his flat debut on the AW on Friday. Could hose-up, but anyone taking those odds shouldn't be allowed out without an adult present Laugh

Only tentative selections this afternoon, to be honest i didn't fancy anything and may watch the football instead.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 15 Feb 26 12:17
.......... Breeders cup in 2025,
By:
Lampus
When: 15 Feb 26 13:43
Thank you ANDREW Happy
By:
Lampus
When: 15 Feb 26 14:21
Thank you ANDREW  Tarbat Ness  GrinGrin
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 20 Feb 26 19:17
Good evening Guys,

Considering the 19.30 Southwell will almost certainly be the most watched race this weekend, at least in Europe, here's my take on it, that is probably similar to many. I don't accept this is a trial for Cheltenham at all, there's a much better option at Warwick tomorrow, albeit with hurdles on course. If he wins, i can see him running again on the flat, but i doubt he will run at Cheltenham whatever the outcome.

NH bred, although Blue Bresil did sire winners of 55 bumper races; the best was probably Dancing in Brazil who finished 3rd in Listed class.

Constitution Hill is now 9 years old, never run on the flat, the pace will be quicker than he's accustomed to and he has a poor draw. On the plus side, he has a relaxed attitude, travels well, has a turn of foot and his class could see him win, but this is not a race to backing or laying, too many unknowns. It's basically a guess.

My favourite hurdler and i would like to see him win this evening, but i have my doubts.

Lampus, thank you.

Good luck and have a nice evening all.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 20 Feb 26 19:38
Great to see him win so easily, Ascot Gold Cup?
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 20 Feb 26 19:41
Impressive Stewart, fair play to the horse.

It wasn't a strong race, but i could have have won on him, he looked the winner from some way out.

Surely stays on the flat now.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 20 Feb 26 19:49
It would be disastrous if ran and fell in CH if got injured or worse, i wouldn't want to risk it, hopefully get some nice races on Flat but who knows.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 20 Feb 26 19:52
I will be surprised if Nicky runs him at Cheltenham, irespective of how easily he won earlier.
By:
slickster
When: 20 Feb 26 20:08
Err of course he runs in the champion. What else are you expecting??? Be it right or wrong he runs.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 21 Feb 26 08:09
Slickster

You may be correct, but it's not a given and i was simply posting an opinion.

Visually impressive last night, but there's a world of difference between an ordinary novice stakes on the AW and a Grade 1 at Cheltenham with 8 hurdles to jump. 3 falls in his previous 4 hurdles races tell ther own story.

He may not be able to win a G1 on the flat and the going will play a big part, but the John Porter and St Simon stakes are possibles in England at opposing ends of the season. A 9 year old actually won the latter race in 2025. There are not many suitable Spring/Autumn group races for him in Ireland or France, although there's more chance of softer going in each of these countries. The G3 Paddy Power (Kilternan) stakes at Leopardstown in September could be an option.

The risk of him falling over hurdles again is high, if he did (and maybe worse) the media and anti-racing brigade would have a field day with a sport that already receives bad press on occasion.
By:
punchestown
When: 21 Feb 26 09:10
I would be really surprised if they ask CH to jump a flight of hurdles again,they got out of jail a few times now with the horse as none of his falls were "handy" ones and could have had disastrous outcomes and they still haven't nailed down the causes.
By:
slickster
When: 21 Feb 26 09:39
I posted on another thread that I would be  orderliness retiring him. He's not a flat horse. What will he realistically achieve as a 9 year old. Then next year as a 10 year old. Of course 3 falls out of 4, and nearly 4 out of 5 is totally worrying. If he falls again, which is probable, the law of averages say it could prove fatal. Henderson and Buckley will have nowhere to hide. Having said all that I believe they will roll the dice at Cheltenham and pray.
By:
punchestown
When: 21 Feb 26 09:46
The scrutiny and ultimate condemnation they (NJH and MB) would face would be full force in the event of a fatal fall and would make the risk too much imo
By:
CROPSICK
When: 21 Feb 26 09:57
if he were mine i would stick to the flat, he has already won a CH so has nothng to prove there and if he did fall and was injured or worse then thats your flat dreams gone.
By:
ashleigh
When: 21 Feb 26 12:31
Andrew, good luck with Lady Of Clover tonight at Chelmsford, hope she can show some improvement for you.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 21 Feb 26 18:06
Good evening Guys,

Thanks for the posts.

The CH and CH saga will roll on for a while yet, will he/won't run and there is divided opinion of course, but i was surprised to see YES was favourite on here. Mind you liquity is poor and AP backers of CH may be using it to trade.

Ashleigh

Thanks, but she will not be close to winning this evening. I can't post much out of respect to fellow owners, but i will not be having a cent on and looking at the current odds it doesn't appear to be a secret. Laugh
By:
isleham
When: 21 Feb 26 20:15
It costs as much to train a bad horse as a good one..
Find her a nice recreational home
By:
the dealer
When: 21 Feb 26 21:00
I thought she ran okay, as a third run for her mark. Total different ball game now switching to handicaps. We break and back for the turf, good luck with her
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 22 Feb 26 12:06
Good afternoon Guys,

Thank you for the posts.

The cards are not too shabby for a February Sunday afternoon; there's pattern races at Fontwell and Naas, but pride of place has to go to Sha Tin (HK) where the superstar sprinter KA Ying Rising made it a record 18 consecutive wins in the G1 Queen's Jubilee Cup earlier this morning, although hardly a shock considering odds of 1/100, just as her previous race.

A pity he's not coming over to RA, but doesn't need to with the mega prize money on offer over there (won over £12 million). I doubt there's a sprinter anywhere in the world that could beat him over 6f and 7f, and only the Godolphin owned Tentyris could maybe give him a run. They could meet in the Everest at Randwick in October.

A runner that could be layed this afternoon, albeit a shortie so comes with a risk Bollin Thou, Fontwell (3.20) is going for a 5-timer. Started racing late and has gone up 33lb in the ratings since winning off 76 in December. All 3 rivals need to put a poor run LTO behind them, and if so, i make it a tight handicap and any of the field can win; he's short enough at 5/4.

For backers, maybe Atlantic Power at the same meeting (3.50) could win for his in-form jockey. Has run well on course in recent runs with form figures of 1-3-2 and won over a slightly longer trip at Lingfield LTO. Consistent in terms of ratings (70-76) and needs a PB off 79 today, but is only a 6 year old and could improve further. Best priced 3/1 with the books.

Only tentative selections and doubt i will play anyway.

Isleham

A little harsh, going by your logic Sir Mark Prescott could lose most of his stable Wink. She has 3 duck eggs for a reason.

The Dealer

Thanks, she ran as expected and the betting reflected this. Not a poor run by any means, a bit keen early and was only 4.25L off the 3rd home (rated 72) albeit with the allowances. Only ever run in class 4 races. She cost 170K guineas as a yearling so somebody saw something back in time, we paid 12K as a once-raced 2 year old at the HIT sales. I'm not suggesting she's a winner in 2025, but we will have some fun racing days with her. Correct to a break and on turf.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 22 Feb 26 12:09
I'm not suggesting she's a winner in 2026

Losing it Laugh
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 22 Feb 26 12:11
.... Unlike you Andrew, dont forget in future, " Measure twice cut once ". Happy
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 22 Feb 26 12:15
Last nights £20k Ladbrokes Golden Jacket final.

   https://greyhounds.attheraces.com/video/replay/372495
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 22 Feb 26 12:17
Glasgow

If you asked me what won the Epsom Derby 30-40 years ago, i may get it right, but what i had for breakfast last Monday, or what year we are in, forget it Laugh
By:
the dealer
When: 22 Feb 26 12:28
All eyes on Tuesday now, to see what mark the handicapper gives her.
By:
Andrew-In-Sweden
When: 22 Feb 26 13:04
The Dealer

I suggested a fun competition on the Fellowship Racing Syndicate WhatsApp group, there are guesses in a range of 48-60, but all in the 50's apart from these 2. I was more conservative at 52, but anything below 56 and i would be happy.

Glasgow

Thanks for the link, an exciting final. Mind you, i wouldn't have a clue these days even though i loved the sport back in time.
By:
the dealer
When: 22 Feb 26 13:14
We did the same with ours (Evelyn's Garden) the other week there. The spread was from 49 to 60, she got 47.
Really happy with that and fingers crossed she can be competitive in her grade.
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