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By:
Cider
When: 17 Jan 26 16:30
the fav didn't show up, arguably as TA got him out of his comfort zone. but once that happened, a pl in a 4 runner race is looking in jeopardy.
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 16:30
After all,who could have foreseen Il Etait Temp falling for the first time?
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:30
its a losing bet cider grow up...seems like you don't like being challenged on the bs you post either
By:
Cider
When: 17 Jan 26 16:31
he didn't get an easy lead. period ;)
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 16:32
"It seems like Cider doesn't like being challenged".
Never been a truer statement
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:32
Cider • January 17, 2026 4:30 PM GMT
the fav didn't show up, arguably as TA got him out of his comfort zone


except jonbon did that to him too & that doesn't tally with previous evidence
so its clearly all about how bad the fav run & nothing to do with TA
By:
Cider
When: 17 Jan 26 16:33
I didn't make a pre race call on this event. I wasn't confident TA would win but I thought 10+ was worth a shot and highly likely tradable.

I think claiming TA got an easy lead is desperate. Everyone who makes pre event calls gets it wrong sometimes.
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:34
we just have to take his word for it uti...ignore tangible evidence
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:34
particularly if it suggests to the contrary Grin
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 16:35
I thought you might have something to say Irons!
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 16:37
And you were correct,WP.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 16:39
You can learn a lot about the the bets you place after a race. Losing bets will teach you much more than your winnings one's
By:
Cider
When: 17 Jan 26 16:40
I love being challenged.

I can be stubborn, and persistent, for sure.

But when a 2 mile four runner chase is ran, and three of them are upsides being pushed into the first, if someone claims the horse that won that battle for the lead got it easy. Yup, I'm going to tell them that they are deluded.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 16:41
Every forum has its resident Pub bore who thinks his opinion is 100% the correct one........
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:42
carver took a pull cider after the 1st then gidleigh made a race ending mistake 2nd fence
you clearly have zero race reading ability or recall

& as for this

Cider • January 17, 2026 4:40 PM GMT
I love being challenged.


Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 17 Jan 26 16:43
everyone thinks they are right, surely. but if someone claimed today is Sunday, I would tell them they are wrong Grin

Thistle Ask got an easy lead today

Laugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 16:44
Correct,WP.
Step forward CiderLaugh
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:45

Jan 17, 2026 -- 4:44PM, uptheirons wrote:


Correct,WP.Step forward Cider


Grin

By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:46
I would ask for his analysis of the sectionals when released but I imagine he'll think its not worth quantifying
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:46
just accept his view, learn from it & move on
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 16:47
If Jesus Christ appeared to Cider he would argue
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 16:48
Wonder & Irons putting up losing odds on bets in the same race but still giving it the big one....you've gotta love the Betfair forum! haha
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:48
Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 17 Jan 26 16:49
you as well. so you think the three upsides, going full bore into the first equates to an easy lead. righty ho.

clearly they set out specifically not to give TA an easy lead. PT was happy to sit off it.

these jockeys might not be top draw but they weren't stupid enough to keep taking him on.

in my world, an easy lead means you're not taken on for the lead. clearly not in UTIs world.

and he jumped into this argument to accuse me of arguing

double LaughLaugh
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 17 Jan 26 16:51
Fav was never going well, even pushed a bit at start.

Didn't jump well, and got back into race only to
make more blunders, ultimately falling.

Possibly too brave for own good today.



Easy lead,... it was flat out, pushing the rest

A easy lead to me is where leader isn't flat out
and able to save a bit.

Uncontested lead, most of the way, might be a better
description.
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 16:51
Everybody who actually bets will inevitably back losers.
No excuses made by me,you aftertimer,WP
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jan 26 16:55
it was flat out, pushing the rest

I don't think so but we'll see in the sectionals
wasn't able to record ATR today so haven't got them yet
By:
JohanntheGoatHurdler
When: 17 Jan 26 16:56
And there would plenty to argue about...for example, why did your "dad" instruct the Israelites to wipe out all the Canaanites, including the non-combatants, the children and even the animals?
By:
JohanntheGoatHurdler
When: 17 Jan 26 16:57
There's something about Ascot that doesn't seem to suit WP Mullins' horses.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 17:04
Muggy odds on backing bore, say what?

Delashay • August 23, 2025 6:24 PM BST
Re: The Fav Rosallion EVEs Fav

3:00
York
23 Aug 2025
Sky Bet City Of York Stakes (Group 1)


uptheirons • August 23, 2025 3:36 PM BST

Fav looks regressive to me.
No bet here

Again NO such opinion given before the race.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 17:06
uptheirons • January 17, 2026 4:26 PM GMT
The time to criticise a bet is pre off not aftertime,WP


Laugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 17:07
Delbert postsLaughLaugh
You cretin,WP.
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 17:08
But that was not a criticism of a pre race bet,WP,was it?
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 17:13
Do you actually bet,WP?
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 17:14
After timing that you didn't back it. Literally giving it the big one after the race. The thing is, I bet you did back it (NAP)
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 17 Jan 26 17:15
No Irons, I just spend 16 hours per day on the Forum insulting people!
By:
formoftheace
When: 17 Jan 26 17:17
uptheirons 17 Jan 26 17:13 
Do you actually bet,WP?

Much did you lose ?
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Jan 26 17:20
What has that got to do with a two bobber like you,Aceform?
You claim bets and then cannot post them.
I wonder why?
By:
formoftheace
When: 17 Jan 26 17:38
Anger is not good in the punting game…..
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Jan 26 17:50
couple yr ago i would have had £5000 on fav..i thort it was a 1/4 chance..i had £500 on today and it was dire.100% irons also bet it.
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