Harry Cobden First Jockey To J.P

Mark Walsh gets his P.45

Not before time Acey. Average at best. Still havent gotten over him getting Dinoblue beat in the mares.

I must admit i was a massive Walsh fan but Cobden is a more than able replacement.

did cobbden beat walsh on dinoblue,thats the only ?
walsh might not be townsend, danny mullin,kennedy, odonogue,et,etc but as most people agree that irish lads are will ahead of uk jocks, i,d/you,d have to imagine walsh is better than cobbden

Surprised Walsh has been given the boot though as J.P is renound for his loyalty.

It was expected, but it looks strange on a few levels.

Walsh was clearly struggling for confidence, but he was on board both Fact To File and Inothewayurthinkin last March, and they were probably the two most impressive winners of the meeting. Who is going to ride those horses before May? Walsh was already struggling, you would imagine he is rock bottom right now, particularly as JP doesn't make a habit of sacking people.

The appointment of Cobden isn't exactly an endorsement for any jocks making their way up the ladder in Ireland. I don't think Cobden has been riding that well this season. Too often he has appeared lazy at obstacles, and one or two have effectively run away with him. He has no great experience in Ireland, and very limited success. In general his record in the biggest of races in both England and Ireland isn't that great either. Nicholls hasn't had the ammunition, and until recently Cobden hadn't taken that many outside rides. 

Some people might look at this purely from the idea that he is better than Walsh, but I wouldn't be confident he will come out smelling of roses. A lot more pressure riding better horses on a regular basis.

For me Cobden is up there with any of the great Jump Jockeys.

Just shows you how useless you really are if you think Cobden is up there with the best.
You really are a clueless lying old fart acey

Hope this dosen't mean a big statement coming out re the future of Ditcheat.

I told you so, weeks ago, that he would move on, now that Nicholls is on the decline..Which he is....

I take it this all JP horses, in all the countries?

Funny now am sorry for the bloke must have known that was coming. Never had much confidence in him myself. Yes Eng and Ire

I am rarely put off backing a horse because of the jockey, but Harry is up there with the best of the irish jockeys.

Didnt realise that Walsh is turning 40.

He has had a good career.

I reckon Walsh, who is 40, will retire. I cannot believe Cobden would have got it over Sean Bowen, so one imagines Sean turned it down or wasn't asked (which is bizarre, given the similarity between Bowen and McCoy). Most of the Irish lads probably don't fancy the regular trips to the UK, so Cobden probably ended up top of an ever decreasing shortlist. I maybe wrong, but I can't see it being a successful, lasting relationship.

Daryl Jacob appeared ecstatic on Racing UK this morning over the news of Cobden leaving Ditcheat for the JP jaunt, with not a word of sympathy offered to sacked jock Walsh. Wonder if Jacob's delight is fuelled by a long-held grievance over the savage treatment he suffered as top jock for Roly Poly Nicholls many moons ago?

Most of the Irish lads probably don't fancy the regular trips to the UK, so Cobden probably ended up top of an ever decreasing shortlist.

lol

Maybe it was instigated by Walsh, not wanting to fly over to England regularly at his age, and requesting to step back? Agree with the comments re Cobden though, would take him over any jockey over here. I take it this is with immediate effect?

ok just seen it starts next season

Harry Cobden is more than a jockey. He is a leading part of Team Ditcheat, a cattle farmer in his own right and in my view unlikely to ride for more than 4 more seasons. He must have been made a very good offer by JP. Another one in the eye for Nico and James Bowen as Henderson trains most of the leading JP horses in England.

Well suited, he loves bridle jocks.Bowen is different class to Cobden.

Yup, second.

2 Million bucks a Year retainer.

Even Bowen would admit he couldnay lace Cobden's boots.

if Bowen is different class, why does he not have a top job....?  Ollie Murphy is not a top job..

If he is different class surely Nichols will come calling..

Only there for cash...no skill needed......only pulling brakes

Nicholls is done....why wood Bowen go there

exactly fw

It suits Bowen to be able to choose most of his rides. Murphy gives him plenty but then he has a lot from Elliott and Crawford in Scotland, Micky Bowen and numerous smaller trainers who will try to get him for a favourite.

Cobby was so driven to win that jockey jackpot last year.....was it 250k. Or 500k.....all he was thinking was Ihe could buy houses and rent them with the cash

Bowen is riding for peanuts for the likes of Elliot.....lots of rides in little races....I think Bowen is a super jockey, but running in 4 grand races every day, with little chance in the championship races is not going to be much fun , year after year imo.

First jockey to Gordon is a different story, only 2 jockeys can turn down JP, Townend and Kennedy, any other jockey would walk through broken glass for the JP retainer.

AP must rate Harry over Sean too.....imo

Bowen wants winners.....ure not going to get many with jp

you dont need hundreds od winners with a big retainer in your hipper and winning chances in the big money races....I just checked how many grade 1s Walsh had for JP....Its a tidy amount.

less rides for money means less toll on your body too.

if Bowen is happy riding lots of winners in low grade races, all good i suppose.

Thats what made Brian Hughes champion jockey.....

*less rides for more money.

Does this mean that Jono Jnr is off the JP Jackdaws runners too?

As good a jockey as Harry is, even he can only ride one horse at a time and at one meeting at a time Aberdonia?

There was talking last year that Mark Walsh was already helping a trainer out with a view to doing it himself when he retired. I would think he told JP he was packing it in at the end of the season.

I suspect you may be right MJK, talk of him being sacked probably wide of the mark and probably part of a longer term plan between himself and JP.

Musical jockeys Zzzzzz has this ever happened before ?

The list is endless tbh…..

Cobden must have received a huge offer.
Good luck to the young man

Ruby Walsh once flew back and fourth…..countless others too…..

Hardly headline news imv……

Cobden was seen in Halfords this morning purchasing a hand brake

It's newsworthy of course, as out of all of the Irish jockeys in all of the world, he picks an English one. As did 'the lads' on the flat.

Most would agree to fly back and forth for a nice pension tbh…

Cobden was seen in Halfords this morning purchasing a hand brake


Surprised that JP has chosen an English rider over an Irish one - that's why I doubted the rumours initially. Having said that, Nicholls appeared resigned when someone questioned him on the topic recently (cannot remember who).

,mrcombustible.
I hope that he is a better "stopper" than AP

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It's newsworthy of course, as out of all of the Irish jockeys in all of the world, he picks an English one. As did 'the lads' on the flat.

He couldnt have Townend , Kennedy or Danny Mullins to name 3, Cobden next best.

Kennedy or Danny Mullins?
Take more water

1.01 one season…..

West Ham drowning in the mire….

I will lay you evens he lasts more than a season Quixall, huge odds for a 1.01 poke?

Why encourage the moron known as Aceform.
He has never contributed to the Forum other than relentless pony

Could you resist evens though irons? If Quixall does it proves plenty don't you think?

His West Ham taunt fell on stony ground

He will soon get fed up with the travelling imv….

Not a lot of hot pots to compare with Mullins….

A good choice. I hope he gets a chance to ride some of JP's this season too esp in Ireland to be more acquainted with their layout.

Signed up,but after Cheltenham and Aintree…..and a few Irish meetings……

Have you not realised that his travelling will probably be reduced in terms of time on the road? Besides he is only going to travel for big rides, nothing much will change in the day to day running of JP's horses from how it is now.

The Mullins "hoptpots" continue to run very badly.....a layers paradise currently, bar the odd one or two.

Danny Mullins is a great jockey btw.

A good jockey,hardly great.
As for "sick note"Jack,please

takes over in may so presumably walsh riding jp,s at chelt, aintree,punch,jp doesnt sack people so walsh must be retiring,only ? did he jump or was his retirement pushed upon him

Dave and his usual absolute p1sh........

I really like Danny Mullins, too.

Not sure what his situation is, but always surprised that he doesn't get more opportunities, especially belonging to one of the Irish racing 'dynasties'. Always wonder if his face doesn't quite fit, somehow.

Backfire imo…..

Cobden is no better than the the top five both sides of the water…..

This is old news. Why is it only hitting the papers today?

A certain podcast broke the news a while back…..

Name the podcast you're not squealing on anyone it's on tinternet

Barstwaerds…..

You know the name every Sunday evening…..l

Will he have to ride the ones that are tailed off after 3 obstacles? JP is surprisingly loyal to a lot of very moderate horses so I wonder if Harry gets the option to donate those rides to one of the other loyal riders? JP has run 210 horses in GB and Ireland so far this season!

Hexham 0000/000 50/1 Haslam……10 hour round trip…..

I'd be more than surprised if Walsh didn't have a say in this bearing in mind the way JP operates,Walsh always a bit underrated the way he sneaks horses into races and never really beats them up.

Walsh a genuine horseman and Cobden is going to have to enjoy swimming with sharks in his new role.

All these top trainers scattered around like confetti with their own stable rider and JP doesn’t trust them…..strange.

Most of them are as good as Cobden,maybe better……apart from the obvious with Nicky the Risen….

Clearly.Aceform never tires of posting on subjects that he has little or no understanding of

Yawn …….

Yawn,ffs,wild hogs and cumbersome individual.
You really need to increase your vocabulary

Spit out the other forum name you fool…..

Feel free to post your supposed Lay of a King winner on Saturday.
Neither is likely to happen

Post your Lay with full BF Id and I will post my previous postername,Aceform

Aceform,the new non betting Delbert

As always,when challenged for authenticity,Aceform retreats faster than an Italian Tank

If Nico is still unable to ride by Saturday, will Cobden get the leg up on Jonbon?

Probably…..

Down to ride @ Ascot,without a ride in the big race.

He is now jocked up on Jonbon

Hardly surprising considering…..

of course could all be rollocks but as all the pundits fitzy,booby etc agreed and praised NICO for his riding of jonbon by firing him in to every fence,making his mind up for him,that would probably make COBBDEN the worst possible jockey for him, but might just as easily suit cobbdens style of whistling away whilst the horse makes all the decisions

I'm surprised by this appointment.
Nothing against Harry Cobden, but Sean Bowen much more in the ilk of AP and B Geraghty.

Nico off to Haydock on Saturday after a "warm up" ride tomorrow.

Point to point meeting ?

Aceform has plenty of mouth but never backs it with money,the two bobber of the Forum unable to post a bet he claims to have made

Hope cobden realises he's gonna be riding to this clowns orders all the time. Better not win on one he was told not to. Bad move imo.

He will be safe enough in Ireland on any not offs

As long as he can understand the starter just before the tapes go up  when he says "Ready riders,triers to the front"