We'll never know if the second could have got up but undeniably stopped from making that challenge; jock seemed to be doing the right things, so didnt seem to be at fault just the horse swerving - i'd give it a DH to be fair but thats not in the stewards rule book!
We'll never know if the second could have got up but undeniably stopped from making that challenge; jock seemed to be doing the right things, so didnt seem to be at fault just the horse swerving - i'd give it a DH to be fair but thats not in the stew
Jokey club should allow a DH and share the spoils as sometiems its imposs to be sure, but the second was denied a fair chance due to the first horse swerving for no clear reason, but seemed not delib erate
Jokey club should allow a DH and share the spoils as sometiems its imposs to be sure, but the second was denied a fair chance due to the first horse swerving for no clear reason, but seemed not delib erate
If 2nd has been hampered and brings it into doubt it should get it as the winner has caused it whether you think it definitely would have won or not
And the jockeys whip is irrelevant
If 2nd has been hampered and brings it into doubt it should get it as the winner has caused it whether you think it definitely would have won or notAnd the jockeys whip is irrelevant
just looks bad,agree its impossible to say it would have got up,but keeping a race after that,you know how they are about optics these days,if they want to throw one here s the chance
just looks bad,agree its impossible to say it would have got up,but keeping a race after that,you know how they are about optics these days,if they want to throw one here s the chance
Rico-Dangleflaps 21 Dec 25 15:45 HoratioNelson 21 Dec 25 15:24 Rico.....we are all watching ya na
correct..ewe never give an opinion..all my fans are waiting for mine ya doe peek húnt.
When you say "fans" do you mean in the plural sense?
HoratioNelson 21 Dec 25 15:31 I only got 1.36....not 1.29.....I greened up on my win bet.
Is that not an opinion or a decision?
What you having for dinner?
Rico-Dangleflaps 21 Dec 25 15:45 HoratioNelson 21 Dec 25 15:24 Rico.....we are all watching ya nacorrect..ewe never give an opinion..all my fans are waiting for mine ya doe peek húnt.When you say "fans" do you mean in the plural sense?HoratioNelson
THE SKY BET FOR THE FANS HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 5)
An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference on the run to the line involving the winner, GIRL OF GOLD (IRE), ridden by Ben Bromley, and ANNIE NAIL (IRE), placed second, ridden by Mr Joseph Stevenson. Being a 7Ib Claiming Amateur, Mr Stevenson was accompanied in the enquiry by a senior rider. The Stewards found the interference had not improved GIRL OF GOLD (IRE)’s placing as the interference occurred very close to the line and despite clipping heels, ANNIE NAIL (IRE) was always being held by GIRL OF GOLD (IRE) to be beaten by 1½ lengths at the line. They therefore ordered the placings to remain unaltered. The interference was found to be accidental in that Bromley was taking reasonable steps to prevent GIRL OF GOLD (IRE) from shifting quickly right-handed.
now we nahs people see things differently but ffs haway man>
ANNIE NAIL (IRE) was always being held by GIRL OF GOLD (IRE) to be beaten by 1½ lengths at the line.
these are the people making decisions in a multi million pound sport.
THE SKY BET FOR THE FANS HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 5)An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference on the run to the line involving the winner, GIRL OF GOLD (IRE), ridden by Ben Bromley, and ANNIE NAIL (IRE), placed s
Yes it's obviously irrelevant what the distance was at the line, it's where it would likely have placed without the interference. It's not probable the second would have won otherwise, so they have arrived at the correct outcome.
Yes it's obviously irrelevant what the distance was at the line, it's where it would likely have placed without the interference. It's not probable the second would have won otherwise, so they have arrived at the correct outcome.
I don't feel it was probably getting up. And that's the threshold under the rules. The interference cost it any chance of getting up. Perhaps that's where the threshold needs to be.
I don't feel it was probably getting up. And that's the threshold under the rules. The interference cost it any chance of getting up. Perhaps that's where the threshold needs to be.
There is a flaw in the rules really that the fptp is given the advantage unless the winning distance is tiny. But as in today's example, the interference can be so bad and so late that there's no plausible way that the sufferer could make the winning distance only tiny.
Yes I agree with that. There is a flaw in the rules really that the fptp is given the advantage unless the winning distance is tiny. But as in today's example, the interference can be so bad and so late that there's no plausible way that the sufferer
A bit like in cricket, where a computer shows where the ball would have gone and whether or not it would have hit the stumps in lbw decisions, so racing could have a computer that looks at the speed and acceleration/deceleration of the horses and predicts the run to the line without the interference.
A bit like in cricket, where a computer shows where the ball would have gone and whether or not it would have hit the stumps in lbw decisions, so racing could have a computer that looks at the speed and acceleration/deceleration of the horses and pre
Always being held yet was running on close enough to clip heels before being WIPED out, I never had a bet on the race but It looked like holding a fair chance at the time.
Always being held yet was running on close enough to clip heels before being WIPED out, I never had a bet on the race but It looked like holding a fair chance at the time.
the horse swerving had nothing to do with the jock everyone agrees but if jock had just happened to have his been holding whip in his other hand at the time, that gets chucked, don't think the 2nd would ever have gone past even if they,d done another lap ,it had been trying to go past from before the 2nd last down the back
the horse swerving had nothing to do with the jock everyone agrees but if jock had just happened to have his been holding whip in his other hand at the time, that gets chucked, don't think the 2nd would ever have gone past even if they,d done another
Centralised Stewarding would solve it in an instant. Regretably,there is more chance of the Labour Party winning the next General Election than this happening.
Centralised Stewarding would solve it in an instant. Regretably,there is more chance of the Labour Party winning the next General Election than this happening.
In this example they applied the rules adequately. It's the rules that are flawed, they place too much emphasis on the winning distance. The winning distance is very often affected by the interference. Pretty perverse really!
In this example they applied the rules adequately. It's the rules that are flawed, they place too much emphasis on the winning distance. The winning distance is very often affected by the interference. Pretty perverse really!
but if jock had just happened to have his been holding whip in his other hand at the time, that gets chucked
no, it just means he's likely getting days off for his poor riding and it doesn't change the question of would the 2nd have got up
but if jock had just happened to have his been holding whip in his other hand at the time, that gets chuckedno, it just means he's likely getting days off for his poor riding and it doesn't change the question of would the 2nd have got up
Whip hand is irrelevant these days. Or at least it's not a consideration in the rules. According to the rules. I don't know if it was once specified as a consideration
Whip hand is irrelevant these days. Or at least it's not a consideration in the rules. According to the rules. I don't know if it was once specified as a consideration