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A 2m 4f specialist made up a huge amount of ground on the winner, got infront on the run-in, and then chinned on the line. Would it be fair to ask or say the jockey on the runner-up gave the winner too much of a lead? Or the winner had a fitness advantage over the runner-up?
I'd be astounded if Fact To File give away the same amount of ground to the winner if they meet again over a similar distance or slightly further. |
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GW is an Arkle winner that stays 3M well.
Nobody gave it a start,he simply marched on from the 3rd fence |
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And they are stablemates and whether we like it or not there was no way they were going to have gone at it hammer and tongs in a prep race season opener, I think connections would have regarded yesterdays run as the perfect pipe opener for both horses.
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I still think that Gaelic warrior had been prepared for that race as a main target, probably the only one that was. He had a really hard race though.
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Did he?
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Some truly bizarre stuff here. If you cannot appreciate a race of that quality then you should find another hobby because it was, by a country mile, the best race of the season so far.
If Mullins had withdrawn the big 2 before the start I can guarantee you that many of the same negative posters would no doubt now be convinced that Fastorslow is a cert for the Gold Cup, and that he would have won yesterday's race regardless. |
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There are Mullins haters and there are Irish racing haters. Fact of life. Add in Hannon haters Irish stewards haters. Season, stir, boil and stir and we have this thread.
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Gaelic Warrior had a tactical edge, a fitness edge too possibly. I know which I'd like to be on or lay in their next encounter on an easy 3m. Others might differ, but this is horseracing.
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Loyal
Unfortunately your 829 is very accurate quite unbelievable really |
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Sweeping statements about hate etc does not disguise the fact that the race was called before it started and panned out exactly as predicted by many, nothing to do with dislike or hate of any kind.
Even the Racing Post mentioned public schooling despite saying it was a line up as good as any Gold Cup pre-race, whether you enjoyed the "race" or not also cannot disguise the fact that half the field were non triers and part of the trainers plans. It seems the defenders of the race cannot accept the actual facts seen by everyone who watched, the finish could not disguise that either. |
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Two top class horses dominated the race and the finish.
If anybody believes that any of the other runners could have won with different rides they are deluded. |
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That is the whole point irons, people moan about non triers post race and yet the defenders of this race are willing to accept breaking the rules before the race, why iyo?
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If I owned Fastorslow, who had been off with an injury since last year's race,I would have loathed to have given it a testing race.
Nobody knows what ability is retained after an injury. Could he have finished a bit closer if given a hard time? Almost certainly. The Gold Cup winner was hardly likely to be given a hard time first time out over a trip too short as well as being owned by Fact to File's owner. The rest were without a price barring miracles. I enjoyed the race Glen (without backing the winner),Glen. |
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I actually ended up backing Fastorslow ew taking the chance that he was half fit but never expected him to be close to winning, tbf the first 4 did as much as expected, the rest were non jiggers long before the race started. Trainers and jockeys are fined and banned as are horses for breaching the " Must be ridden to obtain the best possible placing" rule but here it appears as if HRI sanctioned it.
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Like in England The Stewards are circumspect in the their diligence with certain owners horses
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Winner 6/4 for the KG and FTF 8/1, don't see why such a discrepancy tbh and the 6/4 looks skinny with a few possible big improvers in the present 20 decs although can't bring myself to have an AP punt, last one withdrawn the day before. Any thoughts?
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Mullins changes his mind more than his underwear so AP is out of the question for me.
I believe that GW is a stronger stayer than FTF over 3M |
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Probably right irons but Kempton not a stamina 3 miles imo so the difference bigger than I expected. As it stands I find it hard to choose between Jango and Jukebox as big improvers and looking ideal for the race, Fastorlow should be much more competitive also but a waiting game for final decs and bigger bets rather than AP. Also got the possibility of supplementary late comers but it would be great if most stood their ground, doubtful though.
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The king George is often underestimated as a stamina test.
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The price discrepancy between Gaelic Warrior is more than likely down to the comments from Mullins. He suggested they would not meet again over Christmas.
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Mullins regularly drove Ruby mad with his late switches so even if you could get on A/P it would be Russian Roulette
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Very true.
I am hoping they aim GW for the Gold Cup, so a trip to Kempton would be nice. |