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Even if he was seriously big yesterday he was receiving weight. The Lockinge would be different. He's out to 3/1 now.
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The Sandown vet reported that FOG bled yesterday.
And he pulled up lame after the Sussex. With every run (and every defeat) they're actually managing to diminish, rather than enhance, his bloodstock value. |
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it should be remebered that this was a trial a prep for the lockinge for all bar the racefit winner
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Where can I find that report,Johann?
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field of gold obviously very good but the media racing tv etc are always hoping for the next frankel type superstar and after the irish gns st james palace wins thought they might just have another on their hands actual strength of form seems to go out of the window .understandable i spose but he reversed the form with ciceros gift emphatically and bar the winner beat the rest so not a bad run 1st time up at all.
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Found the Vets Report and it did bleed.
I would not back FOG with stolen money |
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Delashay • April 24, 2026 5:37 PM BST
Did anyone need to hear Diamond Jonhnny say that Field would need the run??? Confused Did any of his recent Lockinge winners win first time up? Lion in Winter has had a lovely prep, was beaten by Cicero’s (but well ahead of the grey) who a few fancied yesterday, then Graffard is bringing Shaahlaan (but without a prep) |
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/reports/william-buick-runs-rivals-ragged-as-opera-ballo-defeats-field-of-gold-aAB8K2R1f7Q2/
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And Godolphin have already beaten this lot with a colt not proven, whereas Notable Speech comes in race fit this year.
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I remember reading somewhere on here that an experienced onlooker at Ascot felt FOG looked knackered after his win there last season.
Maybe he had a point and maybe that victory took the edge of him for the rest of his career... |
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That was Tom Seagul at the winning post, don’t rate that jock.
The details ![]() “Towards rear, headway on outer and edged right over 1f out, pushed along and went second inside final furlong, no match for winner (vet reported colt had bled from the nose) (op 6/5)” |
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Sporting Life race result also shows that FOG bled from the nose.
Opera Ballo hadn't run for 3 months. Conceding 5lbs and rated 6 lbs below FOG. FOG finished 3 lengths behind. Even taking into consideration that Keane wasn't the most tactically astute, and that FOG bled, I still find it a disappointing run. I'll never forget his awkward head carriage in the Guineas... |
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He was always overrated, Opera was fit and stays further, easy now but there was reason why he was so short.
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Another angle to all of this is the wisdom (or lack thereof) in bringing a horse that has a history of problems to the racecourse not fully fit (if paddock reports from yesterday are to be believed).
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He might not have raced for 3 months but listen to Appleby here :
“We haven’t seen him since the Dewhurst, but I was very pleased with him,” said Appleby. “He’s a very clean-winded horse and we always felt that if we were lucky enough to be here in the spring, then the plan would be to go straight into a Guineas. “He’s a better horse running fresh. We’ve seen that with all of his starts really, when he comes back for that second start, he’s probably just a small percentage behind. “The plan was always to come here and give him a nice gallop but as I said to Will (Buick), we don’t need to have a searching gallop because he's fitand we're only two and a half weeks away. Distant Storm hasn’t raced for 203 days going into the Guineas |
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I think it is safe to say that Gosden knows a tad more about training than many on here who clearly think that they know it all(Delbert).
Sparely made horses are easy to produce fit but this is a big,powerful horse with long term plans and without the bleed I would have been happy enough.After all,it was only a Group2. |
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Some of us cotton on earlier than others!
penny drops at different speeds as you’ll have noticed on Tippin’ Point! ![]() Delashay • August 17, 2025 10:45 AM BST Delashay • June 28, 2025 6:08 PM BST - (From the Anti post forum where races are discussed beforehand) Figgis this one is in part for you. I’m not sure why Fieldd Of Gold is rated higher than Ombudsman. FOG has beaten very little to date, yet the latter beat proven Group 1 performers. Delashay • April 25, 2026 12:27 PM BST He was always overrated |
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Good day gentleman, I’m off to top up my tan
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Not necessary,surely
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'Delashay', your troll is a super human bot. He / she appears everywhere faster than lightning.
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Field Of Gold is out to 7.8 here, no taker though. His stablemate Damysus and Notable Speech are 4/1 and 3/1 respectively. An uncertain runner?
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I think first-time bleeders are bound to 21 days rest, so I would say Lockinge is extremely unlikely.
What do trainers do in the UK if they can't prescribe Lasix? |
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A Trainer I know used to give snake venom,Johann
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Is that what FOG has? If so, consider calling it a day. I do not think the horse will ever reproduce the form or improve on last season.
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Kato Star had bled before going into a Gold Cup, I’m not sure if it was the year he was beat by Imperial Commander, but I recall being against him for that in such a tough race.
Gosden impossible had planned to run Damysus in the 1 m 1 f prix d’Isphan after today and seeing Daryz who the trainer had said before, that it was a likely target and do - able then it might be why Damasus has shortened? Not sure of his odds previous to the Ganay today? |
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They had talked about stepping Firld Of Gold up in trip later this year, it could be happening sooner than later.
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So Opera Ballo ran to 126 (7 pounds above his rating).
FOG 114 (11lb below), Zeus Olympios 115 (5lb below), Cicero's Gift 100 (10lbs below). Either OB has improved half a stone and/or Buick rode an inspired race, or the other jocks were caught out and all the other horses needed the run. Or both! One thing is for certain...DOG'S last 3 runs: RPR 114,114,103. Will be interesting to see if he can get anywhere near 128 again (if indeed he sees a racecourse again)... |
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Something weird about the St.James Palace last year...
1 horse hasn't run again since (Officer), 1 has retired to stud without winning again (Henri Matisse), 3 have run without winning another race, and 1 has run 8 times since, winning a Listed race at Sandown over 1m2f before being gelded. That race really seems to have taken its toll. |
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FOG is competitive within his own age group. The Mile race last friday was against older horses, and receiving weight. but, it was a damp squib for him. He was probably over-rated and hyped given the high regard of his trainer.
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He finished in front of all the older horses.
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As even money favourite.
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There’s nothing really weird about it Johann, it was a terrible field in the end, 7 runners with 3 pacemakers. Two for AOB and one for Field Of Gold.
It’s sounds strange to call it a terrible field with both Guineas winners in there, but the French was weak and Mattisse couldn’t even really capitalise on Field Of Gold’s bad run at Goodwood where the 3 year olds were beat by older horses. Ruling Court had a bad prep for it, was meant to run in the derby and missed it at the last minute and Rashabar never really trained on and was soon stepped up to 10f. Most thought though that Field Of Gold would reverse form with him at Ascot and he was priced accordingly. Thady said this about the race Friday on SL “To give them the best advantage in Group One company a prep run always helps them. After discussing it with the family of the late Prince Khalid Abdullah, the decision was made to give him a prep run before we hopefully head to the Lockinge. “We did the same last year with Lead Artist, and Sandown Park is a wonderful track to start them off at. With the jump card on the Saturday it is always nice ground there and it is the ideal place to start them off in the spring.” |
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Delashay • April 24, 2026 5:27 PM BST
Formbook don’t lie, if Prague could get within 4L of a real G1 colt then I’d be surprised. |
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Delashay • April 24, 2026 3:22 PM BST
Prague gives you a clue, has been beaten 4 lengths twice by Zeuss and also by this boy. |
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FFS,Delbert,do you ever stop aftertiming,you non betting cretin
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impossible123 • April 25, 2026 1:41 PM BST
'Delashay', your troll is a super human bot. He / she appears everywhere faster than lightning. |
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Stop the aftertiming then
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Delashay • April 24, 2026 5:38 PM BST
Zeuss was fit and there ain’t a lot to him, won’t take much racing |
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Obviously an illness with the Autistic,potless peasant
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