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1. Quisisana
2. White Birch
3. Los Angeles
2. White Birch
3. Los Angeles
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White Birch is in the HIT sales, would be something of a boost to his price if somehow were to win.
Believe he ay have adopted an approach using, Ground Conditions, Draw and Jockey.
White Birch doesn't mind it very soft, Los Angeles ran well last year having been able to pull over from a wide draw to make it on the inner (will need similar tactics this time).
Quissana has a jockey that knows the course and is drawn relatively well.
Draws 1- 7 holds a sizeable advantage for me.
Minnie Hauk drawn 1 could get a good tow from its stablemate, if said stablemate bags the rail from a wide draw.
Sosie is drawn 3
Kalpana drawn 10 bit of a handicap, but she could nick a place.
My 3 against Blakey.
White Birch doesn't mind it very soft, Los Angeles ran well last year having been able to pull over from a wide draw to make it on the inner (will need similar tactics this time).
Quissana has a jockey that knows the course and is drawn relatively well.
Draws 1- 7 holds a sizeable advantage for me.
Minnie Hauk drawn 1 could get a good tow from its stablemate, if said stablemate bags the rail from a wide draw.
Sosie is drawn 3
Kalpana drawn 10 bit of a handicap, but she could nick a place.
My 3 against Blakey.
*may
Aventure drawn 12 and sits off the pace-could be its undoing
Soz Formy
Aventure drawn 12 and sits off the pace-could be its undoing
Soz Formy
Does Kevin adjust the stride patterns on soft
Ground?? Or are they the same on quick ground ??
Ground?? Or are they the same on quick ground ??
Looks like the usual throwing three darts tactic. Working on the basis that if he picks a fancied runner nobody will big it up, and on the other hand, these three will quickly be forgotten. White Birch isn't as good as he was, and no form at the trip. Los Angeles looks to be going backwards and hardly ever wins. Quisisana on all known evidence isn't good enough.
Interesting he doesn’t like the O’Brian filly at all??
DD, thé main reason WB hasn’t run over further, Is
They thought he’d make a stallion, think he will get
The trip ??
DD, thé main reason WB hasn’t run over further, Is
They thought he’d make a stallion, think he will get
The trip ??
Similar to economics, he’s crying out for mile and half
stewarts rise 05 Oct 25 12:13
White Birch is in the HIT sales, would be something of a boost to his price if somehow were to win.
Here's my prediction, stewarts. The Horsewatchers will buy him for 40,000gns, have him gelded then send him to Rebecca Menzies for a hurdling campaign
White Birch is in the HIT sales, would be something of a boost to his price if somehow were to win.
Here's my prediction, stewarts. The Horsewatchers will buy him for 40,000gns, have him gelded then send him to Rebecca Menzies for a hurdling campaign
Will be very very lucky to get one placed ......And if White Birch makes the frame i will show my arse in Tescos and leave The Forum never to return.
Forget my last statement about White Birch i did not know young Joseph now Trains him i thought it was that other Clown Murphy.
'acey', Joseph Murphy, not Joseph O'Brien. He's a good and hungry jockey, not Keane the over-rated Juddmonte acquisition.
I think Blake is trying his luck again after his extremely lucky and fortunate tc last year, one he did not have a penny on.
Thanks Imp i messed up it is Murphy.....Original statement stands.....Got nay fakin chance.
The horse is receiving the same treatment from his trainer as Constitution Hill from Hendo. It beggars belief what he's doing here. I think he's never run over this trip. Maybe nothing to lose given his intended sale.
Only ran 3rd in the Derby but that's not 1 1/2 m surely
I've been looking forward to seeing Hotazhell upped to 12f and on softer ground. 100-1 - not possible to resist.
On Kalpana as well but I never leave an Aga Khan horse out. Best race horse breeder of my lifetime. Calandagan was thought to be their best but Daryz did the job. Two 3yos clear of Sosie in third.
I hope not too many were taken in. Blake wouldn't be bothered if they had filled the last three places.
Blake is ok. I do not begrudge him looking after his own interest 1st. He's now the travelling head lad and spokesperson for Joseph overseas.
Are you saying that because he has a finger in a million pies it excuses him filling a column with three rubbish darts? Not sure how that makes him ok?
I think he's too busy these days. He'd also alluded to in the past his honest and frank views about participants in horseracing eg jockeys did not go down well with some. Also, the forum could be controversial.
Which jocks did he criticise? I have never heard him call out any on ITV.
He and Cunningham used to post here whenever they could. Both were frank and informative, a rare commodity from individuals in the profession. They'd also alluded to a rather "cool" response from jockeys to requests for interviews post a critical assessment of their riding.
If he is giving up the column it hasn't stopped him writing a second one on the Arc. Strangely, no mention of his three darts.
Who really cares? Haven’t read a tipster for I don’t know how long because they have very little of value ever to say, as far as I’m concerned. If they want to keep shoving money his way for copy he’s entitled to take it.
It's the age old problem, if people have umpteen jobs, it makes it that much more difficult for anyone to get a foot in the door.
Many years ago I did a short placement at the Express & Star. Rather than use a local journalist, they were employing someone based in Yorkshire who probably wouldn't have come near Wolverhampton.
Many years ago I did a short placement at the Express & Star. Rather than use a local journalist, they were employing someone based in Yorkshire who probably wouldn't have come near Wolverhampton.
User differentdrum • August 14, 2025 7:23 PM BST
I very rarely cash out, but I will be cashing out my profit on Daryz. Said all along going to York is bonkers. They have made the Juddmonte his Arc without a step in between. I don't expect him to get close, and I will be surprised if he even runs in the Arc.
Great shame that they have gelded Yellow Jersey. I think he is very good. He may have beaten rubbish on debut, but at the time I thought he quickened like a very good horse. Upped in class he has now won two more races with a great deal of ease. Today he won despite the ride. He wasn't well away as the commentator suggested. Redvers was talking about him as a stayer, but he has far too much pace for that route. I think he is more exciting than Daryz.
I very rarely cash out, but I will be cashing out my profit on Daryz. Said all along going to York is bonkers. They have made the Juddmonte his Arc without a step in between. I don't expect him to get close, and I will be surprised if he even runs in the Arc.
Great shame that they have gelded Yellow Jersey. I think he is very good. He may have beaten rubbish on debut, but at the time I thought he quickened like a very good horse. Upped in class he has now won two more races with a great deal of ease. Today he won despite the ride. He wasn't well away as the commentator suggested. Redvers was talking about him as a stayer, but he has far too much pace for that route. I think he is more exciting than Daryz.
Delashay • October 5, 2025 3:40 PM BST
This is what Graffard said after the York LAST
Delashay • August 20, 2025 4:19 PM
Add that to what Graffards had said about his:
Graffard said: "I thought he would be our best three-year-old. Mentally he was quite backwards and we've had to bring him along step by step, but we don’t have much choice but to try him in the deep end.
"Good ground will be an advantage for him, but it’s a high-quality field full of horses with more experience than him and I hope there will be plenty of pace on.
"I feel we need to teach him something. He needs to learn what is ahead and going to York, the journey and a strong field will do him a lot of good.
"I think sometimes you need to be prepared to lose to win in the long run."
DD are you s annoyed now at another non tryer like Caulificar was at Deauville? Or see it as a great training performance?
You’ve all witnessed a plot and a half!
This is what Graffard said after the York LAST
Delashay • August 20, 2025 4:19 PM
Add that to what Graffards had said about his:
Graffard said: "I thought he would be our best three-year-old. Mentally he was quite backwards and we've had to bring him along step by step, but we don’t have much choice but to try him in the deep end.
"Good ground will be an advantage for him, but it’s a high-quality field full of horses with more experience than him and I hope there will be plenty of pace on.
"I feel we need to teach him something. He needs to learn what is ahead and going to York, the journey and a strong field will do him a lot of good.
"I think sometimes you need to be prepared to lose to win in the long run."
DD are you s annoyed now at another non tryer like Caulificar was at Deauville? Or see it as a great training performance?
You’ve all witnessed a plot and a half!
What they got to do with this thread?It's about an Arc tricast.
Go pull people who have no opinion on the race and who’s only contribution to the Arc thread for abuse Mr Cop!
Let the truth be told where ever, whenever ya get me der sir?
Grow up fella.Lets be honest you're a fcking nuisance.
As Penzance said your post has nothing to do with this thread so why post? What are you trying to achieve besides simply having a pop?
If people want to they can go and read the Ante-Post thread and they would find more sensible stuff posted by myself than anyone else on thread. Not wishy washy stuff, direct opinion, most of which was correct. Contrast that to your posts which were 99% trainer quotes. No opinion yourself, just quoting someone else.
As for being annoyed you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel great about cashing out a 75/1 winner, although I doubt many have been in that position.
If people want to they can go and read the Ante-Post thread and they would find more sensible stuff posted by myself than anyone else on thread. Not wishy washy stuff, direct opinion, most of which was correct. Contrast that to your posts which were 99% trainer quotes. No opinion yourself, just quoting someone else.
As for being annoyed you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel great about cashing out a 75/1 winner, although I doubt many have been in that position.
No one’s having a pop and I’ve given plenty of opinion, you backed the horse to save looking like a mug, your own words DD.
Also in your own words you wrote him off, knowing like you do better than the trainer, like you do Fabre!
Who had greatly annoyed you for running Caulificar unfit at Deauville. I asked if that the same trick was played worn Daryz, no answer!
Consistency please!
Also in your own words you wrote him off, knowing like you do better than the trainer, like you do Fabre!
Who had greatly annoyed you for running Caulificar unfit at Deauville. I asked if that the same trick was played worn Daryz, no answer!
Consistency please!
Delashay • September 29, 2025 5:47 PM BST
Can Aventure give the weight as a 4 year old? I’m not having what they said earlier:
It's fair to say she's not very impressive as a model but she has grown and, more importantly, she's become much stronger," said Ferland. "She showed a lot of class last year but this year she's more mature and more professional. She definitely developed in the spring and I find her to be stronger this year."
She hasn’t looked it and only ran against the colts once this year. She’s bagged her G1 last time out so I see why the trainer feels no pressure this year.
Kaplana got closer to Calandagan on ground that was fast enough for her than Aventure did, even if Goyen was easy on her.
That to me isn’t enough evidence for her to be favourite. She has to lump weight to Minnie Hauk who’s a big filly & won’t be getting 10lb from the older colts this year.
She’s only beat Junko 2 1/2L when he was her pacemaker at Saint - Cloud. He was only 2L behind last years 6th place Sevennah’s Knight earlier this year.
An opion given on the fav and many of the journo’s picks, a perfect lay! And it was there for anyone to discuss, which none of you did!
If that’s not a solid stance on the FAV then my prrricks a bloater!
Can Aventure give the weight as a 4 year old? I’m not having what they said earlier:
It's fair to say she's not very impressive as a model but she has grown and, more importantly, she's become much stronger," said Ferland. "She showed a lot of class last year but this year she's more mature and more professional. She definitely developed in the spring and I find her to be stronger this year."
She hasn’t looked it and only ran against the colts once this year. She’s bagged her G1 last time out so I see why the trainer feels no pressure this year.
Kaplana got closer to Calandagan on ground that was fast enough for her than Aventure did, even if Goyen was easy on her.
That to me isn’t enough evidence for her to be favourite. She has to lump weight to Minnie Hauk who’s a big filly & won’t be getting 10lb from the older colts this year.
She’s only beat Junko 2 1/2L when he was her pacemaker at Saint - Cloud. He was only 2L behind last years 6th place Sevennah’s Knight earlier this year.
An opion given on the fav and many of the journo’s picks, a perfect lay! And it was there for anyone to discuss, which none of you did!
If that’s not a solid stance on the FAV then my prrricks a bloater!
Is anywhere safe from the copy and paste bore ??
He just aims for the most current thread its irrelevant to him what the debate is about, previous poster has summed him up perfectly (pest).
He just aims for the most current thread its irrelevant to him what the debate is about, previous poster has summed him up perfectly (pest).
The forum is in dire need of being revived from dying a slow death tbh…..
Serious decline imv.
Serious decline imv.
Doubtful if you are the best person to do it imo, given that:
formoftheace = anagram of: offer the coma
formoftheace = anagram of: offer the coma
The 1.01 safely landed
Delbert,after posting over a hundred times on Aceform's Arc thread without offering a selection and mentioning every horse in the race now comes on another thread to claim victory.
A certifiable,relentless C&P bore who should be Sectioned
Delbert,after posting over a hundred times on Aceform's Arc thread without offering a selection and mentioning every horse in the race now comes on another thread to claim victory.
A certifiable,relentless C&P bore who should be Sectioned
He never puts up a selection like a few i could mention…..
Planet earth’s super brain is another…..
Planet earth’s super brain is another…..
Not betting on races where you have no reasonable view might just be the reason why some make money whilst you don't,Aceform
Maybe,doubtful tho tbh….
99% of gamblers are in denial it’s all for the buzz….
Personally i love the spectacle…..Souix and Souix,Jimmy Bleasdale and Chris Thornton are responsible for giving me the racecourse bug way back in 1977 at Lanark…..
2026 will be the year i wave goodbye to the sport…..
Account closure,the lot…..
99% of gamblers are in denial it’s all for the buzz….
Personally i love the spectacle…..Souix and Souix,Jimmy Bleasdale and Chris Thornton are responsible for giving me the racecourse bug way back in 1977 at Lanark…..
2026 will be the year i wave goodbye to the sport…..
Account closure,the lot…..
Why on Earth would any Bookmaker want to close your A/C,Aceform
guys the arc is over ,sundays arc is in the past no amount of arguing will change the result , no matter who was right or wrong , time better spent on what's coming up ....ie the dewhurst on Saturday for a start .I've put up a thread on the ante post forum no selections as yet will wait for the 2 day stage but no harm in discussing the race .
It's only the "aftertiming" that is getting slated,Foyles
Lochy having his Vitas Gerulaitis moment, after 48 years of losing.
Nobody beats f4rty fourty-nine time in a row!
Nobody beats f4rty fourty-nine time in a row!
Rather than giving up his columns, Blake is actually writing more of them. Tipping column for Newbury tomorrow. How long would that have taken him? None of them cut back on easy money.
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