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1. Quisisana
2. White Birch
3. Los Angeles

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By:
stewarts rise
When: 05 Oct 25 12:13
White Birch is in the HIT sales, would be something of a boost to his price if somehow were to win.
By:
leif
When: 05 Oct 25 12:26
Believe he ay have adopted an approach using, Ground Conditions, Draw and Jockey.

White Birch doesn't mind it very soft, Los Angeles ran well last year having been able to pull over from a wide draw to make it on the inner (will need similar tactics this time).
Quissana has a jockey that knows the course and is drawn relatively well.

Draws 1- 7 holds a sizeable advantage for me.

Minnie Hauk drawn 1 could get a good tow from its stablemate, if said stablemate bags the rail from a wide draw.
Sosie is drawn 3
Kalpana drawn 10 bit of a handicap, but she could nick a place.

My 3 against Blakey.
By:
leif
When: 05 Oct 25 12:27
*may

Aventure drawn 12 and sits off the pace-could be its undoing
Soz Formy Plain
By:
roggrain
When: 05 Oct 25 12:28
My three: Daryz, Sosie, Quisisana.
By:
ponchoslament
When: 05 Oct 25 12:29
Does Kevin adjust the stride patterns on soft
Ground?? Or are they the same on quick ground ??
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Oct 25 12:39
Looks like the usual throwing three darts tactic. Working on the basis that if he picks a fancied runner nobody will big it up, and on the other hand, these three will quickly be forgotten. White Birch isn't as good as he was, and no form at the trip. Los Angeles looks to be going backwards and hardly ever wins. Quisisana on all known evidence isn't good enough.
By:
ponchoslament
When: 05 Oct 25 12:46
Interesting he doesn’t like the O’Brian filly at all??
DD, thé main reason WB hasn’t run over further, Is
They thought he’d make a stallion, think he will get
The trip ??
By:
ponchoslament
When: 05 Oct 25 12:47
Similar to economics, he’s crying out for mile and half
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Oct 25 13:13
stewarts rise 05 Oct 25 12:13 
White Birch is in the HIT sales, would be something of a boost to his price if somehow were to win.


Here's my prediction, stewarts. The Horsewatchers will buy him for 40,000gns, have him gelded then send him to Rebecca Menzies for a hurdling campaign Wink
By:
acey deucy
When: 05 Oct 25 13:39
Will be very very lucky to get one placed ......And if White Birch makes the frame i will show my arse in Tescos and leave The Forum never to return.Cool
By:
acey deucy
When: 05 Oct 25 13:47
Forget my last statement about White Birch i did not know young Joseph now Trains him i thought it was that other Clown Murphy.Plain
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Oct 25 14:07
'acey', Joseph Murphy, not Joseph O'Brien. He's a good and hungry jockey, not Keane the over-rated Juddmonte acquisition.
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Oct 25 14:08
I think Blake is trying his luck again after his extremely lucky and fortunate tc last year, one he did not have a penny on.
By:
acey deucy
When: 05 Oct 25 14:12
Thanks Imp i messed up it is Murphy.....Original statement stands.....Got nay fakin chance.
By:
Bentring
When: 05 Oct 25 14:15
The Botti horse will do me for small money
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Oct 25 14:23
The horse is receiving the same treatment from his trainer as Constitution Hill from Hendo. It beggars  belief what he's doing here. I think he's never run over this trip. Maybe nothing to lose given his intended sale.
By:
Bentring
When: 05 Oct 25 14:28
Only ran 3rd in the Derby but that's not 1 1/2 m surely
By:
GoBallistic
When: 05 Oct 25 15:02
I've been looking forward to seeing Hotazhell upped to 12f and on softer ground. 100-1 - not possible to resist.
By:
acey deucy
When: 05 Oct 25 15:16
Acey new.Cool
By:
leif
When: 05 Oct 25 15:17
Leif had an idea too.

1st four home drawn,
2,1,3 & 5
By:
sageform
When: 05 Oct 25 15:35
On Kalpana as well but I never leave an Aga Khan horse out. Best race horse breeder of my lifetime. Calandagan was thought to be their best but Daryz did the job. Two 3yos clear of Sosie in third.
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Oct 25 15:40
NON

NON

NON
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Oct 25 17:57
I hope not too many were taken in. Blake wouldn't be bothered if they had filled the last three places.
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Oct 25 18:01
Blake is ok. I do not begrudge him looking after his own interest 1st. He's now the travelling head lad and spokesperson for Joseph overseas.
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Oct 25 18:05
Are you saying that because he has a finger in a million pies it excuses him filling a column with three rubbish darts? Not sure how that makes him ok?
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 05 Oct 25 18:07
I think he is giving up the column.
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Oct 25 19:10
I think he's too busy these days. He'd also alluded to in the past his honest and frank views about participants in horseracing eg jockeys did not go down well with some. Also, the forum could be controversial.
By:
uptheirons
When: 05 Oct 25 19:13
A Tri cast in the ArcLaughLaugh
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Oct 25 19:32
Which jocks did he criticise? I have never heard him call out any on ITV.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 06 Oct 25 01:12
Neither have I.  I would doubt he ever would.
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Oct 25 07:19
He and Cunningham used to post here whenever they could. Both were frank and informative, a rare commodity from individuals in the profession. They'd also alluded to a rather "cool" response from jockeys to requests for interviews post a critical assessment of their riding.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Oct 25 19:30
If he is giving up the column it hasn't stopped him writing a second one on the Arc. Strangely, no mention of his three darts.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 06 Oct 25 21:50
Who really cares?  Haven’t read a tipster for I don’t know how long because they have very little of value ever to say, as far as I’m concerned.  If they want to keep shoving money his way for copy he’s entitled to take it.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Oct 25 22:01
It's the age old problem, if people have umpteen jobs, it makes it that much more difficult for anyone to get a foot in the door.

Many years ago I did a short placement at the Express & Star. Rather than use a local journalist, they were employing someone based in Yorkshire who probably wouldn't have come near Wolverhampton.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 06 Oct 25 22:02
did he actually do the Derby tricast?
By:
acey deucy
When: 06 Oct 25 22:12
No
By:
Delashay
When: 07 Oct 25 09:49
User differentdrum • August 14, 2025 7:23 PM BST
I very rarely cash out, but I will be cashing out my profit on Daryz. Said all along going to York is bonkers. They have made the Juddmonte his Arc without a step in between. I don't expect him to get close, and I will be surprised if he even runs in the Arc.

Great shame that they have gelded Yellow Jersey. I think he is very good. He may have beaten rubbish on debut, but at the time I thought he quickened like a very good horse. Upped in class he has now won two more races with a great deal of ease. Today he won despite the ride. He wasn't well away as the commentator suggested. Redvers was talking about him as a stayer, but he has far too much pace for that route. I think he is more exciting than Daryz.
By:
Delashay
When: 07 Oct 25 09:54
Delashay • October 5, 2025 3:40 PM BST
This is what Graffard said after the York LAST


Delashay  • August 20, 2025 4:19 PM

Add that to what Graffards had said about his:

Graffard said: "I thought he would be our best three-year-old. Mentally he was quite backwards and we've had to bring him along step by step, but we don’t have much choice but to try him in the deep end.
"Good ground will be an advantage for him, but it’s a high-quality field full of horses with more experience than him and I hope there will be plenty of pace on.
"I feel we need to teach him something. He needs to learn what is ahead and going to York, the journey and a strong field will do him a lot of good.

"I think sometimes you need to be prepared to lose to win in the long run."

DD are you s annoyed now at another non tryer like Caulificar was at Deauville? Or see it as a great training performance?Confused

You’ve all witnessed a plot and a half! Laugh
By:
penzance
When: 07 Oct 25 10:00
What they got to do with this thread?It's about an Arc tricast.
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