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Cider
04 Oct 25 15:02
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So the new set up on Saturdays is that Steve Mellish does the preview, waits out the back during the racing and comes back to review the racing afterwards.

Meantime Nevison pops into the studio to talk about the markets for about five minutes flat, over a few hours racing, alongside a 'form' pundit, today Martin Dwyer.

What on earth is that about. On Saturdays there's very little time to discuss the goings on between races anyway, plus the Irish stuff. So now we have one or two pundits at each track, a studio presenter and two studio pundits.

All profits returned to racing Plain
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Report differentdrum October 4, 2025 3:15 PM BST
They all need a slice of the pie. Seriously, none of them are even worth listening to. Even worse if the tiresome Captain is hovering around as well. We are never told exactly how much goes to racing, it's just a banner headline.
Report Cider October 4, 2025 3:22 PM BST
In my view some of them are worth listening to. But not Nevison, he must know where the bodies are buried. He almost relishes in the fact that he just turns up at the studio every week, getting paid to watch racing.

This new set up is bizarre. Mellish can talk about market movements. Nevison used to achieve very little when he was also doing the previews, apart from forgetting his own tips and to switch his mic on.
Report wondersobright October 4, 2025 3:24 PM BST
Laugh
Report top2rated October 4, 2025 3:33 PM BST
I've just submitted my new profile photo to the mods...

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...just waiting for it to be approved.  Fingers crossed..
Report Cider October 8, 2025 5:22 PM BST
How on earth would we have coped with the rest of Kempton, without three new people for the day in the studio Cry
Report formoftheace October 8, 2025 5:40 PM BST
Nevison is a take out merchant imo…..
Report uptheirons October 8, 2025 6:13 PM BST
Nevo is a clueless chancer Aceform
Report Cider October 15, 2025 5:25 PM BST
credit where it's due, that drone shot from the stalls opening is a big step forward.
Report FatPunt October 15, 2025 6:06 PM BST
We can watch the stall handlers taking forever to load them in from high above now. Laugh
Report Cider November 19, 2025 5:14 PM GMT
Great to see that racing tv are helping the government out with the spiking unemployent rate. Just the six people (pundits/presenters) covering a mundane night on the sand in Kempton CryLaugh
Report Cider November 19, 2025 5:15 PM GMT
No strikes yet for gravy train drivers, either!
Report duffy November 19, 2025 5:17 PM GMT
Half of them will be flying off to Dubai shortly to cover the racing that none of their fee payers give a flying fook about and that won't be cheap.
Report Wicklow November 19, 2025 5:32 PM GMT
amazing Cider - 4 of them in the studio comical.
Report Busyfool November 19, 2025 5:35 PM GMT
Really?

Can't see it but thats barmy

Trying to work out who the richard on track is. I like her voice. Nice n posh
Report Cider November 19, 2025 5:37 PM GMT
Ella McNeill
Report Cider November 19, 2025 5:40 PM GMT
She'd actually be capable enough of presenting or roving reporter type of thing (not Kempton Wed night, obs!). Early days for her being employed by the channel, but doesn't seem to be cut out to be a form pundit/ race reader/ betting expert.
Report Wicklow November 19, 2025 5:47 PM GMT
Jacob would make your ears bleed - lovely ride, lovely horse, lovely jockey, beautiful ears on the horse, amazing trainer, wonderful race .... repeat Whoops
Report duffy November 19, 2025 5:48 PM GMT
Half of them will be off to Meydan shortly covering racing that their fee payers couldn't care less about and that won't be cheap, but not to worry, once all that has been paid for the remaining £2.50 will be ploughed back into racing.
Report Busyfool November 19, 2025 5:48 PM GMT
Lemmy gess

blue and white hoops
Report Cider November 19, 2025 5:54 PM GMT
Funny Wicklow, Jacob was asked by Luck to elaborate on why Bowen's ride on Way Out was so good (as Jacob made it number one ride of the week). He'd had a few days to come up with a response. Ruby Walsh was asked the same, on the spot, live on itv. The direct comparison doesn't do Jacob any favours!
Report Busyfool November 19, 2025 5:56 PM GMT
Dont think they pay for Maydan. Although the presenters get a chunk from the towelheads for every broadcast, hence them all scurrying over there whenever possible

Quite who that programme is for I do not know. It is beamed out every meeting(not on RTV) but nor is it shown on any TV channel I know of
Report DonegalPrince November 19, 2025 5:56 PM GMT
Wicklow, he is there because of his unsurpassed knowledge of AW racing. I assume. And also to make "****" look good.
Report Cider November 19, 2025 5:57 PM GMT
Would have been nice to have seen Jacob come up with something slightly interesting after Luck (before the live at Exeter), asked him to come up with his three fav rides of the meeting. He simply picked the obvious three winners, including Powell in the Greatwood. On a horse with a stone in hand, lol.
Report DonegalPrince November 19, 2025 5:57 PM GMT
Blimey, you can't even mention the name of my favourite  horse!
Report Cider November 19, 2025 5:58 PM GMT
#Wade Out
Report uptheirons November 19, 2025 7:36 PM GMT
Jacob was a slightly above average Jockey who landed a good job.
BTW,most ex jockeys would send you skint even if they were telling the truth
Report Busyfool November 19, 2025 8:16 PM GMT
Hard to believe they would block Helcatmudwrestler
Report Cider December 3, 2025 3:48 PM GMT
Crazy
Report Cider December 3, 2025 3:49 PM GMT
Ant & Dec of the racing world, now we have two presenters for the price of two.
Report Cider January 3, 2026 12:14 PM GMT
RTV starting the new year as they mean to go on Cool

Four in the studio and three in Sandown LaughCry
Report wondersobright January 3, 2026 1:30 PM GMT
referring to the race IQ jumping index at every possible opportunity...utterly tedious viewing imo
Report Wicklow January 3, 2026 1:52 PM GMT
I used to enjoy listening to RTV between and during races - now its full on mute. Whats up with the lad in studio giving all this data - the sad thing is that he actually belives the data is going to help him pick find the winner Cry
Report wondersobright January 3, 2026 1:58 PM GMT
same as you wicklow bar a small number of exceptions its insufferable tosh nowadays muting essential
Report formoftheace January 3, 2026 1:58 PM GMT
I wouldn’t subscribe with a billion in the account tbh……
Report aberdonia January 3, 2026 2:01 PM GMT
Stanley thinks the Mullins horses are running well.....lol...Nevison put him right....The youngsters in particular are bombing out more than they are winning and its been happening for months.
Report wondersobright January 3, 2026 2:02 PM GMT
race IQ says they're running to form
Report Cider January 3, 2026 2:09 PM GMT
Mellish is worth listening to in my opinion. In their wisdom he is banished to the canteen for the important bit, and comes back into the studio talk about it when it's all over. That was the genesis of this thread, and production haven't worked out yet that this a bizarre and futile approach.
Report wondersobright January 3, 2026 2:11 PM GMT
agree 100% cider
Report wondersobright January 3, 2026 2:15 PM GMT
its become too bookie affiliated & mellish doesn't fit the brief
x was 7/2 earlier...impossible to get on etc...now its 2/1 the right price recommend no bet

they don't want that they want people taking the 2/1
Report isleham January 3, 2026 4:00 PM GMT
The Sandown male pundits said after the Veterans Final the winner was younger than most of them..well younger than one of the other actually.lol!!
Report Cider January 7, 2026 4:33 PM GMT
Think gruel for Kempton, just the five chaps for tonight (so far) :(
Report wondersobright January 7, 2026 6:17 PM GMT
prob 5+ years ago now but kempton weds night there was normally decent discussion in between races on RTV
usually just host + a pundit mellish, the shoe etc
often a theme to discussion eg frankel vs other all time greats was 1, weight for age another, best 2yos in focus 1 week, next week might be novice hurdlers, reminiscing of past renewals of a race coming up etc
...was a watchable show

this bs they're serving up with now is beyond words imo
Report wondersobright January 7, 2026 6:22 PM GMT
seems to be some sort of bromance going on as well with these 2 Plain
interspersed with pearls of wisdom from the race iq gooseberry

this needs canning asap
Report Wicklow January 7, 2026 6:25 PM GMT
totally wonder - I dont know who they are trying to appeal too, as I'd guess the vast majority of their subscribers will share the same views and will these 3 stooges on mute or just flick over when it gets a few minutes to race time.
Report Busyfool January 7, 2026 6:44 PM GMT
gruel is thin

why has bellend returned to the channel? no need for him at all

does anyone take note of all these stats they put out all the time?
Report Cider January 7, 2026 7:12 PM GMT
I suspect it's this AI bot they recently installed on the forum, continually rewrites words in my posts Cry Only happens on this forum. Thin, not think Plain
Report Busyfool January 7, 2026 7:14 PM GMT
thats not it. i wouldnt have put up a typo

gruel is thin
Report Cider January 7, 2026 7:17 PM GMT
My posts ha. Though I write for a living (I disguise it well!), I manage to type via all other software that I use, without random words and letters appearing in my content :)
Report Cider January 7, 2026 7:23 PM GMT
In regard to Bell, and this 'Stand & Ollie' show, there appears to be a correlation with the 'the paddock' podcast that's a collaboration with 'Joe'.

Suffice to say, it's not a positive development, at least in my view.
Report GEORGE.B January 7, 2026 7:28 PM GMT
wondersobright 07 Jan 26 18:17 
prob 5+ years ago now but kempton weds night there was normally decent discussion in between races on RTV
usually just host + a pundit mellish, the shoe etc


The 'captain' and Willo accepting e-mails on just about any subject (within reason and permitted before the watershed).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnxTT7XXMPA&list=RDJnxTT7XXMPA&start_radio=1
Report Busyfool January 7, 2026 7:30 PM GMT
youve done it again

i guess you meant stan and ollie. who is joe?
Report Cider January 7, 2026 7:33 PM GMT
lol. I'm telling you that's the AI bot Cry
Report Cider January 7, 2026 7:34 PM GMT
f e c k
Report Cider January 7, 2026 7:35 PM GMT
'Joe' is the far left podcast
Report Busyfool January 7, 2026 7:42 PM GMT
stalin?
Report Cider January 7, 2026 7:43 PM GMT
corbyn
Report wondersobright January 8, 2026 6:43 PM GMT

Jan 7, 2026 -- 6:17PM, wondersobright wrote:


prob 5+ years ago now but kempton weds night there was normally decent discussion in between races on RTVusually just host + a pundit mellish, the shoe etcoften a theme to discussion eg frankel vs other all time greats was 1, weight for age another, best 2yos in focus 1 week, next week might be novice hurdlers, reminiscing of past renewals of a race coming up etc...was a watchable showthis bs they're serving up with now is beyond words imo


much better tonight

Report Cider January 31, 2026 12:08 PM GMT
Angus slumming it as a pundit today then. Unlucky for him, he's on with Martin Dixon Grin
Report MJK January 31, 2026 12:12 PM GMT
How many losing favs today will McNae pin on 'pulled too hard'. A market should be opened imop..
Report Cider January 31, 2026 12:45 PM GMT
Amazing stuff, the jump index measures how fast they go between point A & point B with the fence in between. The Kitzbuhel jump index in the KS improved when the pace of the race picked up. No shiit shylock :)
Report JohanntheGoatHurdler January 31, 2026 1:05 PM GMT
Weird ride from Sheehan.
Horse pulled at the very start, but why would you hold up the top weight that far out of its ground?
The way the horse jumped, you'd never guess it had already run in 3 hurdle races.
Report Cider February 7, 2026 2:35 PM GMT
More insight from 'the data' to tell us Mambonumberfive didn't jump very well today Silly
Report Cider February 18, 2026 6:51 PM GMT
Oh dear, Oli going on about how racing shouldn't be relying on heritage Cry

Of course this is the agenda of the 'paddock', as I suspected.

2026 is different Plain

yes, it is Oli. yes it is.

the high street is different to what it looks like on a racecourse. one wonders why that is.

maybe you need quotas for racecourse attendance, the countryside is too white, according to the government.
Report Cider February 21, 2026 2:55 PM GMT
Tremendous stats again! The horse that was running faster than the second was jumping better. It could be that it was just running faster than the runner up. Go West lost a lot of time to jump the fence that he landed in Mischief
Report Cider March 6, 2026 4:20 PM GMT
Main channel appears to be completely ignoring Meydan today. How will we cope?
Report Cider March 6, 2026 6:40 PM GMT
I guess the IRA was before Mark's time!
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