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By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 04 Oct 25 11:32
ponchoslament04 Oct 25 08:28Joined: 14 Jun 25 | Topic/replies: 699 | Blogger: ponchoslament's blog
Hé should of got 10 years alone, for the noise he produces,
Blick Mongrel gibberish, a severe insult  to the brain


  Hardly practising what you preach Poncho ??  Some might even say a Racist post. ( breaking bf terms and conditions )
By:
formoftheace
When: 04 Oct 25 11:34
You have to ignore the bile from the keyboard tbh,it could be anything/anyone imv…..

Personal hygiene….dirty home….criminal record,you just don’t know until you meet them in person….

Most seem fine tho tbf….
By:
ponchoslament
When: 04 Oct 25 11:41
Thsts an genuine opinion Glasgow, about the man’s artistic
Ability, thé genre mainly comes from black culture, but engaging in
A heard mentality, constantly abusing an individual, is not nice.

And I know I probably gave him some stick, and he me, but I apologise
For thst. It’s not nice to be taking shed loads of personal abuse??
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 11:45
There’s no need Poncho, I wasn’t upset by Loyal’s joke, it made me laugh and I replied, was then said to be talking to myself, which most of the time I am here!

I make valid points and question certain runners etc… it’s those I bring back up, those same points that were ignored, by those throwing abuse!

DD I note that you don’t call out those who have had nothing to say about any of the horses or the race itself!

Thats ok, self preservation like the rest who put up with the bully boy and his bitter crew. Heaven forbid you criticise them for giving no opinion on the race in case you become the next target.

Just like school, was the same at work, I was never bullied and don’t care what’s said.

I’m ok knowing I think differently that sometimes gives me an edge as I don’t follow the crowd nor the market that’s formed by the crowd.

I recall DD had written off Caulificar before the Prix Niel because of the market and him being weak in the betting. Instead I trusted Fabre’s words, “I’m quite confident and looking forward to seeing him step up in trip on soft.”

He won the race getting Buick out of trouble and I fear him in the Arc because as I quoted earlier on this thread he’s said that he’s confident again.

My gut says there’s no superstar amongst the French 3 year olds as every Classic has been won in a bunched finish.

That he’s taken the same route with this colt as his first winner of the Arc Trempolino at his age of almost 80 makes me think there’s a story there.

The time in the Niel was slow but he’s shown that he can handle a big field and fight  (like Ombudsman he wants to go by horses) in a fast run Arc he might surprise us and run much better - we don’t know.
Alli Alii has form linked with Crox Du Nord through Museum Mile who’s won on his comeback this year, he pulverised him at Deauville, he’s unknown over the trip. Both have potential over what we know.
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 11:51
As there is a good afternoon's racing I will depart and let the non punting Delbert carry on with his endless posts.
For those that actually bet I wish you good luck with your punting.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 04 Oct 25 11:55
Many of us disagree on here, some with bile and venom.  I am as guilty as anyone however, the intelligent ones move on and learn to get on, or, just develop a new-found respect for each other and converse with a modicum of respect.
However the one called ponchoslament, who I call cry baby, isn’t one of them.  He most certainly is a pot calling the kettle black.  Indeed there are times he comes out with some stuff that makes it look like he hasn’t read his previous vile, abusive posts.  In fact I have begun to wonder if in fact it is always the same person posting.
As irons quite rightly says if you can’t take it don’t dish it out, and my experience is that he only dishes.
By:
ponchoslament
When: 04 Oct 25 12:02
LaughLaugh Thank you brother Honcho, forgive me my sins on
Thee, and I’ll forgive you thé ones on me Laugh ??
By:
ponchoslament
When: 04 Oct 25 12:07
‘However thé one called ponchoslament’ that did make me laughLaugh
But bother honcho, you did concede you were guilty of posting with bile n venom yourself?? Laugh

Is my bike n venom not forgivable too?? , on my brother Laugh
By:
formoftheace
When: 04 Oct 25 12:17
is that helmet on my thread ? Get off you fool !
By:
formoftheace
When: 04 Oct 25 12:18
I can’t read it’s post as i binned it into landfill a while back tbh…..
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 12:21
You’ll note that bullyran, still no view shared on the race! Yet he’ll be here to either give abuse born form a very nasty place and he’ll also be full of talk about the race after it!

Whilst calling people arfter timers!
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 12:22
And Ace is it’s FF’sS where I’m from!
By:
formoftheace
When: 04 Oct 25 12:26
Aye ok ! Ta…..yawn….ffs
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 12:45
Ain’t no good ground there.
By:
impossible123
When: 04 Oct 25 12:57
The rain has stopped. The ground is soft. I think the principals cannot complain about the ground.
By:
wondersobright
When: 04 Oct 25 14:38
impossible123 • October 4, 2025 12:57 PM BST
The ground is soft.


it's heavy
By:
impossible123
When: 04 Oct 25 14:53
Very soft. White Birch (my nemesis)? On breeding he'd be unlikely to stay 12f esp on heavy ground.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 04 Oct 25 14:53
Take the tip imp.  wonders never wrong on going.
By:
mcampo13
When: 04 Oct 25 16:19
Judged on the time of the 1 mile 3.25, GR2 the ground is probably no worse than Soft IMHO
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 17:39
Report• Quote • Block User Delashay • October 4, 2025 5:38 PM BST
Not sure that we need times to see it’s not good there.


Fighting talk from Maxim

With the clock ticking down to the big day, Japanese challengers face a formidable rival in jockey Maxime Guyon, who partners last year's runner-up and leading fancy Aventure in the G1 Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. Guyon made his intentions crystal clear, "I'm absolutely going to beat them." Final declarations of horse number, barrier number, and riders were confirmed on October 2.

"I'm absolutely determined to beat them," Guyon said with a grin when asked about the Japanese trio, though he acknowledged their threat. "Every year Japan brings very good horses, and this year all three won their prep races. But the ground could be key, if it rains and turns heavy, that will be a big factor." With showers forecast for Friday and Saturday in Paris, the prospect of soft ground could play against the Japanese runners.

For Aventure, however, such conditions are no problem at all. "She's very straightforward and can handle any surface. Her Vermeille win was strong, and she was runner-up here last year. She's gained experience since then and has strengthened up," Guyon explained confidently. The jockey himself has twice finished second in the Arc (with Flintshire in 2014 and 2015), and now seeks a first triumph. His mission in this year's edition is clear, to repel not just the Japanese threat, but every challenger lining up at Longchamp.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 17:41
I had written this write up some time ago long before she became a steamer in the market. The ground looks to have gone against her, if we take her trainers comments for real.

Originally Aventure was due to run in the G1 Prix Jean Romanet, it was seen as her chance for her first Group 1 win. The official line was that that and the Vermielle came too close together to take in both - (think they were two weeks apart).

Dig a little deeper and go back to the 1m 4f race that Quisisana won with ease, the PRIX PAWNEESE last year and look who was in the saddle - A certain Maxim Goyen.

https://www.aprh.fr/reportage/2/82512/chantilly-16-06-2024-6eme-course-prix-pawneese-longines-l-r-fonds-europeen-de-l-elevage/1?asPageNew=1

(Hope that the above link posts in full)

It was a big field and he looked quite impressed and if you can see the race you can see him looking over his shoulder and at the big screen as he put 5 lengths on the field.

That same opposition Iznik & Ottery though no superstars faced Aventure in their next race the Prix de Pomone.

Quisisana was receiving 3lb from them during that route whereas Aventure was getting the 3 year old allowance (9lb)

Simon Rolland’s wrote this:

IZNIK  (103 here and previously) ran well under a more patient ride than some, paying something of a compliment to Quisisana, who beat her and Ottery easily in a listed race the time before.

https://www.attheraces.com/racecard/Deauville/17-August-2024/1525

This year Survive was beaten 1 1/4L by Aventure and 1 3/4L by Quisisana.

So I wondered - Was Gezora a sighter for Quisiana and was Quisiana the reason that they skipped the JEAN ROMANET?.?.
By:
formoftheace
When: 04 Oct 25 17:42
Lol where did you pinch that from?…..Laugh
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 17:43
I’ve had it written and stored in I pad notes for ages, since I pointed out that she WASN’T QUOTED in the market.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 17:43
It’s called homework dear fellow.
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 17:44
I heard that Diddy was offered  6 months with Delbert as a cell mate but went for 50 Months,AceformLaugh
By:
formoftheace
When: 04 Oct 25 17:44
You pre wrote Dela…?

Santas 42” @rse fits down a 6” chimney…..Deary me
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 17:46
Set to begin a short-term riding stint in Japan next month, jockey Alexis Pouchin will partner the in-form Quisisana, who enters the G1 Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe on a four-race winning streak. "I rode him in trackwork last week, and he felt well-prepared. He's very straightforward to ride and has a great temperament. He can handle both fast and soft ground, though I'd say he might be a bit better with some cut in the ground," Pouchin commented positively.

On the Japanese contenders, Pouchin said, "The one I personally like is Alohi Alii, but I think Croix du Nord is the strongest. It will come down to the ground. If it's good, that will help."

For those who’ve backed her these comments posted today might give some solace.

Please go away if you’re going to call me a liar.

It’s proper analysis of form in detai and how I approach a race.
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 17:48
And,all that work is an utter waste of gtime as you don't bet,Delbert
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 17:49
Ridari was a lovely touch today ;)
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 17:52
Care to post your bet,Billy LiarLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 17:56
And here’s a very insightful read :

- Oisin Murphy: "The only way to bounce back is to ride a good horse"

Several times Golden Whip in England, Oisin Murphy fights against his demons for several years. Liz Price went to meet him, at his home, a few hours away from a weekend of the Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe where he will have the opportunity to shine in several events and this on Saturday at ParisLongchamp.

Sacrifice.

This is the title of the book that describes a year in the life of champion Oisin Murphy. It is him, moreover, and not the publishing house, who chose the title. “I want people to really understand what it’s like to be a jockey”, he says, perched precariously on the stool in his kitchen, days before the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe weekend.
It is already night when he finally reaches his house after a meeting in Goodwood which brought him a victory for seven climbs. "Not enough", he comments while lighting a cigarillo, before continuing: "I want them to understand that yes, one can earn quite a bit of money as a jockey, but life is not the fairy tale everyone imagines". He speaks with his eyes fixed on the cigarillo which he constantly pats against the ashtray, manipulating it more than he smokes it. Meanwhile, his face remains completely devoid of emotions. It is bewildering to see him evoke with so much distance a life he chose at the age of 14, a life in which he won the British Jockey Championship four times, from 2019 to 2021 and then again in 2024, the year at the center of this book.

Maybe detaching from the intensity of jockey’s life is his way of dealing with the pressure of the job. Because those who know Oisin Murphy, even if, in reality, probably no one really knows him, know that he is one of the most passionate and dedicated men to his profession. Even on vacation, he always stays close to the horses, engaging in show jumping for fun, and on big event days, he wakes up early to gallop horses at training, sometimes on the other side of the country. And every victory, no matter if it is a group I or a race to claim, is lived with the same enthusiasm and fervor.

But tonight, during this interview, his usual smile which, combined with his availability to his many fans, his natural eloquence and his obvious talent in the saddle have made him one of the great stars of racing, does not show once. Maybe the total absence of emotions serves to set the tone for the book, as it explains: “It’s written in diary form, so I tell every day of the season. And in fact, to tell you everything, I complain a lot. But it’s a very honest story of what I feel every day. I think it will give the listeners, if they listen to me speak, or the readers of the book, a real insight into the life of a jockey. Unlike other books, I describe what it’s like when you’re paired with the favorite seven times and beaten every time. There are very few passages on great moments, great victories. I hope it’s not too depressing, but I don’t think that the children will want to become jockeys after reading my book. We’ll see.

Sixteen years after leaving his family to join the stable of his uncle Jim Culloty, the former obstacle jockey who had won the Cheltenham Gold Cup with Best Mate for three consecutive years, and thirteen years after leaving Ireland to become an apprentice at Andrew Balding’s stable in Kingsclere in England, the multiple English Golden Whip is at the top of its profession. Winner of five I groups this year, leading the Jockeys' Championship with thirty victories ahead and starting thanks to Blue Diamond Stud a new original equipment contract, in addition to those with Qatar Racing and Nawara Stud, he should have a smile from ear to ear.

But it would be far too simple in the life of Oisin, who continuously leads, to use the words of the book’s cover, a dance on a taut thread, each step pushing his body and his mind to the breaking point. It is well documented that his career was punctuated with long suspensions for having been positive to alcohol tests and prohibited substances (by contamination rather than by use, it should be emphasized), then, the most important of all in terms of length, for non-compliance with the rules in force during the Covid period.

"My problem is that at the time, I liked to drink," he said, once again, remaining marble. This time, his eyes leave the ashtray and he puts out the cigarillo. He does not seek to justify himself, merely explaining what he undoubtedly had to repeat many times over the years, because already in 2019 he had failed a breathalyzer test while going to the racetrack in Salisbury. at the time, he did not make a connection with an addiction, whereas today, he acknowledges that he is an alcoholic.

“Oh yes, absolutely, I have a disease.” He admits it without the slightest hesitation or embarrassment: “I was not a normal drinker, even if I tried to be. I wanted to do like normal people, have a glass of wine or two, but I failed many times for years. It was not related to a bad moment, it could even happen during a very good period. There were often consequences, but I wasn’t ready to stop. Even if, at one point, I still stayed sober for 18 months. In fact, in October 2021 I started seeing a therapist and it helped me a lot. But it didn’t last and it was my fault. I was not invested”.

Today, after relapsing into the month of April when he was involved in a car accident, he may be, for the first time, invested. “I wasn’t ready before, continues the jockey who just celebrated his 30th birthday last month. I thought I could live like everyone else, but I failed. Now I know that if I don’t stop drinking, my career will be over and all the work accomplished since my childhood, all these dreams of great victories, I would have sacrificed for alcohol. I’m getting old and I had to try to pull myself together. My career is short and I’ve certainly already covered more than half of it. But I really wanted to come back and get into races.

The title Sacrifice, which at first glance seemed to refer to constant discipline to maintain one’s weight, to the grueling pace of endless days that start at dawn on the training tracks and end late on the track, and to the demanding necessity of traveling to the four corners of the world in 24 hours, contains in reality much more meanings than it initially appeared. For Oisin Murphy, being a jockey every day is obviously not always a pleasure and this raises the question: if it’s so difficult, why continue?

"Because I set a goal for myself and I haven’t reached it yet," he replies calmly. There are great races that I have never won before, like the Arc, the Derby or the King George. I would like to give myself a chance to win them. Besides, it would be the greatest moment of my career if I could win the Arc. That has always been my ambition. I saw Kieran Fallon do it with Dylan Thomas. He had 'survived' an investigation by the commissioners. It was extraordinary, it really seemed like an exceptional moment.

This Sunday, he will be riding the Japanese competitor Byzantine Dream with whom he has already won the Longines Red Sea Turf Handicap in Riyadh (Saudi Arabia) and more recently, the Prix Foy at ParisLongchamp. « It’s probably the best chance I’ve ever had in an Arc ». Finally, a hint of a smile appears on his face. But barely do we have time to notice it, it fades. Oisin Murphy continues: "I do the dance every day so that it no longer rains because if he holds well the 2,400 meters, it is not a real stayer since he was well beaten on long distances at his home in Japan. So, a good piece of land is very important. But he delivered a great performance in the Prix Foy and if I could have the same ground as that day, it would be good. Those around him think he has made more progress and in addition, he has a good spike in speed, we have to see.

Oisin Murphy has already analyzed the performance of each of his future opponents in the Arc and in his head, he knows exactly what awaits him on Sunday. If he is hard on himself, evoking his statistics for the months of July and August which were not extraordinary, he nevertheless admits that the season is rather good thanks to his five group I victories, including one with Sajir, coached by André Fabre, who will also line up at the start of the Prix de la Forêt. The thirst for victories, this force that drives him every day, this ambition to win, all of this is still very much present. He concludes: "I don’t know if alcoholics will read this, but we can always get by as soon as we have the will. This is called knowing how to let go”.

He pauses, lights up another cigarillo and adds: “The only way to bounce back is to ride a good horse.”.

Let’s hope that Byzantine Dream is the good horse who can offer this young jockey so talented the accomplishment he is looking for, so that his sacrifices have a meaning and he can, to use his own words from a chapter dedicated to sleep, finally have a good night.

I hope that he can stick to his new found reality and accomplish all that he wants because real talent is rare and no one can doubt that he has it in spades.
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 18:03
Delbert cannot post his "claimed bet" because,!}.He didn't have it or,2}. He cannot copy and pasteLaughLaughLaugh
By:
wondersobright
When: 04 Oct 25 18:21

Oct 4, 2025 -- 4:19PM, mcampo13 wrote:


Judged on the time of the 1 mile 3.25, GR2 the ground is probably no worse than Soft IMHO


cadran slowest time since princess zoe on TF heavy
mile hcap 7s above legit soft/heavy

later races after my post are mostly soft ground times I agree

By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 18:22
formoftheace • October 4, 2025 5:44 PM BST
You pre wrote Dela…?

I also wrote that :

Delashay • October 4, 2025 11:45 AM BST
There’s no need Poncho, I wasn’t upset by Loyal’s joke, it made me laugh and I replied, was then said to be talking to myself, which most of the time I am here!

I make valid points and question certain runners etc… it’s those I bring back up, those same points that were ignored, by those throwing abuse!

DD I note that you don’t call out those who have had nothing to say about any of the horses or the race itself!

Thats ok, self preservation like the rest who put up with the bully boy and his bitter crew. Heaven forbid you criticise them for giving no opinion on the race in case you become the next target.

Just like school, was the same at work, I was never bullied and don’t care what’s said.

I’m ok knowing I think differently that sometimes gives me an edge as I don’t follow the crowd nor the market that’s formed by the crowd.

I recall DD had written off Caulificar before the Prix Niel because of the market and him being weak in the betting. Instead I trusted Fabre’s words, “I’m quite confident and looking forward to seeing him step up in trip on soft.”

He won the race getting Buick out of trouble and I fear him in the Arc because as I quoted earlier on this thread he’s said that he’s confident again.

My gut says there’s no superstar amongst the French 3 year olds as every Classic has been won in a bunched finish.

That he’s taken the same route with this colt as his first winner of the Arc Trempolino at his age of almost 80 makes me think there’s a story there.

The time in the Niel was slow but he’s shown that he can handle a big field and fight  (like Ombudsman he wants to go by horses) in a fast run Arc he might surprise us and run much better - we don’t know.
Alli Alii has form linked with Crox Du Nord through Museum Mile who’s won on his comeback this year, he pulverised him at Deauville, he’s unknown over the trip. Both have potential over what we know.

We’ll see how tomoz pans out but Ridari is now also playing with the bookies money for FREE for me Love
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 18:27
Why did I back the Aga second string wearing colours indicated by the sash?

Because he’d already beaten Shalan who’s now a G1 winner on the C&D was put up for sale which was a double negative and part of the PLOT!

The rain that came was also in his favour, great ride Baza Wink and I’m so very happy that you chinned that smug one Crisford! Laugh

Loved how they pushed him from 7/1 to 10/1 too Wink

Follow the market boys! Love
By:
The Management
When: 04 Oct 25 18:33
Are you getting paid by the word?
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 18:39
If he was,he wouldn't be a potless ponce,The Management.
Any claimed bets are aftertimers.
He would post his supposed bet faster than a horse could gallop if he actually had it.
An utterly certifiable lunatic
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 18:41
BTW,I don't give a rats about the size of peoples bets but I can spot a bullshatter blindfolded.
Prove me wrong DelbertLaugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 04 Oct 25 19:02
At last,silence from Delbert.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Oct 25 19:51
Silence from you all I’d say Laugh
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