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One for the racing older boys to ponder on.
What happened on Friday, exactly 45 years ago...(I predict a spread of 1.5 to 2 before the right answer hits!)
What happened on Friday, exactly 45 years ago...(I predict a spread of 1.5 to 2 before the right answer hits!)
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uptheirons, I think John Randall has questions with ungoogleable answers in his RP Xmas Quiz, though not sure %.
Did Shergar start as FAV for the race...watched it on telly and to my memory it seemed quite competitive but small field...probly totally wrong
I have been planning an ungoogleable quiz on here for years.
Every time I think of putting it up I find that one of the questions is now googleable.
There are ones left that don't appear to be but I'm no longer sure I have the answers correct
And I can't use Google. Catch 22.
Every time I think of putting it up I find that one of the questions is now googleable.
There are ones left that don't appear to be but I'm no longer sure I have the answers correct
And I can't use Google. Catch 22.
Exactly 5 years after the first episode of fawlty towers
Back to shergar still the only horse I’ve seen applauded down to the start in the derby.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS2qMxraIbI
says first race is on there, not watched it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS2qMxraIbI
says first race is on there, not watched it
jimnast...yes, recall that from being at Epsom that day. It was odd, though, In my mind I seem to recall how the crowd began applauding him in the race about 1.5 furlongs out when they saw he was coasting home but by the line it had fallen rather silent for a Derby finish! I think everyone was stunned.
As for his debut, he was a backable price 10/11 to 1/1. I was there that day with 3 other lads I worked with in IT at NWB.
They knew nothing about racing and so were hanging off my views about the card on the train from Paddington. When the Shergar race came along, I was telling them 'no value here lads etc etc'. (Back then I thought value could only exist in longer priced horses!)
Anyway, an old boy with only a couple of front teeth and shabbily dressed heard me before sidling up and saying 'This one won't get effin beat boys. They could bring back Nijinsky and he would not see this one' Don't be mugs, have what you effin like on, this one will never get effin beat'. (I am paraphrasing here but you get the idea!)
The other lads were suitably impressed and stopped listening to me immediately, believing they had precious inside information.
I kept saying that spmeone like this old by with no teeth and so untidily dressed would hardly have any 'ins' with the elite team of Stoute and the Agas Khan but the boys would not have it. They cobbled together £100 and lumped on. I, meanwhile, stood watching with a knowing smile!!
Oh yes, what an effin mug (To use the old boy's parlance)I turned out to be when it sluiced up - they boys did not let me forget it for weeks afterwards.
As for his debut, he was a backable price 10/11 to 1/1. I was there that day with 3 other lads I worked with in IT at NWB.
They knew nothing about racing and so were hanging off my views about the card on the train from Paddington. When the Shergar race came along, I was telling them 'no value here lads etc etc'. (Back then I thought value could only exist in longer priced horses!)
Anyway, an old boy with only a couple of front teeth and shabbily dressed heard me before sidling up and saying 'This one won't get effin beat boys. They could bring back Nijinsky and he would not see this one' Don't be mugs, have what you effin like on, this one will never get effin beat'. (I am paraphrasing here but you get the idea!)
The other lads were suitably impressed and stopped listening to me immediately, believing they had precious inside information.
I kept saying that spmeone like this old by with no teeth and so untidily dressed would hardly have any 'ins' with the elite team of Stoute and the Agas Khan but the boys would not have it. They cobbled together £100 and lumped on. I, meanwhile, stood watching with a knowing smile!!
Oh yes, what an effin mug (To use the old boy's parlance)I turned out to be when it sluiced up - they boys did not let me forget it for weeks afterwards.
yes i saw ty, as a two yo there's his 2nd race but i cannot find the first right now
Absolutely right the knight the crowd was stunned an incredible performance in terms of achievement not as good as two yours earlier but visually unbelievable,even though he had won at Chester in similar style this as the derby,I hope one day I’ll see a derby as special as 81 again however I very much doubt it.
Piggott rode him both times @ 2.Why not as a 3 Yr Old?
O'brien?
Cheers.
O'brien?
Cheers.
penz
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/how-lester-piggott-was-negotiated-out-of-the-ride-on-record-breaking-shergar-aB8nj2n466cs/
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/how-lester-piggott-was-negotiated-out-of-the-ride-on-record-breaking-shergar-aB8nj2n466cs/
Pretty sure piggott rode shotgun for Chris Thornton in the 81 derby Penzance ,lester did ride shergar in the Irish derby.
Not sure Vincent had anything decent that year can’t check as travelling to Ayr ,but do remember 2nd favourite on the build up to Epsom was beldale flutter trained by Michael Jarvis who had won the Mecca Dante however he got injured and missed the race.
its 240 miles I’m not rushing around in the morning elise
We’ll remembered Penzance I had forgotten that,I know the 3rd horse in the Mecca Dante was also 3rd in the derby ,you would have to say beldale flutter would have got closer to shergar than glint of gold.
Another story regarding beldale flutter was he had a racecourse gallop at Leicester as a build up to the arc there was quite a crowd who stayed on after racing that day.
That won’t be on google
Another story regarding beldale flutter was he had a racecourse gallop at Leicester as a build up to the arc there was quite a crowd who stayed on after racing that day.
That won’t be on google
Remember Frankel started 7/4 on debut and the unbeaten career accumulator was approx 70/1.
Cheers Penzance I remembered the race as soon as you said it
Some of the early winners from the race shergar won 45 years ago
Henbit
Rainbow quest
Unfulwain
Shareef star
Kings theatre
Nayef
Mainly rubbish since 2000
Henbit
Rainbow quest
Unfulwain
Shareef star
Kings theatre
Nayef
Mainly rubbish since 2000
White muzzle,snurge,authorised all beaten in the race
Think Henbit finished the Derby with an injury then retired…
Not quite right form he did injure himself in the derby and never raced again at 3 he returned at 4 finished last in the jockey club cup on the rowley mile behind master Willie the horse he beat at Epsom ,he then got beat again in Ireland and that was it.
Coincidentally he won the same 2 races as shergar leading up to the derby
The guardian classic trial and the Chester vase
Coincidentally he won the same 2 races as shergar leading up to the derby
The guardian classic trial and the Chester vase
Brilliant The Knight. Been there but with a greyhound. Wife’s pal still mentions it forty years on.
Joveworth won the ayr gold cup at 33 -1?
One 9f my all time fav horses
One 9f my all time fav horses
A young jimmy fortune on board Celtic you took under the odds it returned 50 no idea how plenty of good judges were on.
Back then people considered you needed a 7 furlong horse to win an Ayr gold cup tomorrow in the bronze cup yaaser fits that bill.
Celtic, a good mate of mine trained joveworth
To win air gold cup, and it wasn’t o neill
To win air gold cup, and it wasn’t o neill
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