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Rico-Dangleflaps
20 Aug 25 15:49
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Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2025 4:02 PM BST
clerk sez baraclona didnt weigh in..

barcalona sez aye a did weigh in...

now checking CCTV.

more comedy gold.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2025 4:08 PM BST
confirmed he did in fact weigh in...

pmsl.
Report stewarts rise August 20, 2025 4:18 PM BST
Unbelievable Jeff.Laugh
Report mitolo August 20, 2025 4:20 PM BST
berk of the scales
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2025 4:25 PM BST
hindeed.
Report uptheirons August 20, 2025 4:36 PM BST
Only has to check the Weigh Out and In.
Obviously too taxingLaugh
Report breadnbutter August 20, 2025 8:02 PM BST
Scales should be outside so everyone can see what's hap, should be paddock scales for horses as well, weighed as they enter.


Even if the scale info was displayed but even that's too much to expect from a sport still living in the 19th century.
Report Jacko2017 August 20, 2025 8:44 PM BST
Have long felt that the weight of horse should be made public on the day agree totally with bread and butter
Report uptheirons August 20, 2025 9:06 PM BST
How would you police such a suggestion,jacko?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2025 9:13 PM BST
the biggest scandal going is failing to weigh in..if a jockey weighs in light and is disq that means if you bet it you cudnt ever win..shud be declared a non runner..just simply nonsensical.
Report Johnny The Guesser August 20, 2025 9:36 PM BST
...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal...
Report Jacko2017 August 20, 2025 9:39 PM BST
Trainer states horses current weight on final declaration stage then horse is weighed on arrival when the checks are being done to ensure correct horse is at the track and the information is then made public very uncomplicated to me anyhow
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2025 9:55 PM BST
Johnny The Guesser 20 Aug 25 21:36 
...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal...

and declared a non runner..cant benefit.
Report barstool August 20, 2025 10:35 PM BST
They weigh them in at greyhound tracks, allowed plus or minus a 1kg.

Could be done with horses if the desire was there. Different scale of course.
Report Jacko2017 August 20, 2025 10:51 PM BST
Out of curiosity do america have a different system i am obviously not sure but I have never noticed this occurring there not saying it hasn't just that in my degenerate days I gambled quite a lot on American racing and Azerbaijan division 3 reserve games also in truth
Report Brian August 21, 2025 8:28 AM BST
First time for everything. Objection to the Clerk of the Scales's objection.
Report spyker August 21, 2025 10:04 AM BST
Have long felt that the weight of horse should be made public on the day agree totally with bread and butter


Why, how would that help. If I told you my weight today is 100kg what does that tell you? On its own it's utterly meaningless, obv over time it can have some meaning (and I presume this can be checked in countries that do weigh horses) but does it correspond (same weight as when won) to its chances of winning?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 21, 2025 10:41 AM BST
wate fluck chew hates.
Report LoyalHoncho August 21, 2025 12:22 PM BST
It does with greyhounds spyker.  And yes, weight variation is a pointer to the chance of the dog.  Dogs are occasionally removed from a card by the stewards because of an excessive w.v.  Whether it is relevant to a thoroughbred and its chance of winning I’ve no idea.  It’s a subject that is much debated.  For instance, when Ken Patterson tells us in the paddock that a horse looks in a certain condition it is in fact meaningless unless we know how it has looked in the past, win or lose.
Report stu August 21, 2025 12:28 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps20 Aug 25 21:55

Johnny The Guesser 20 Aug 25 21:36
...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal...

and declared a non runner..cant benefit.


This is an interesting question and issue - I basically agree with rico that weigh in DQs should instead be non-runner, but Jonny's idea that it could be deliberate is tricky.

If NR you couldn't win by laying it - but, you could still win by backing the 2nd at huge price IR? Not an easy scam to pull, but a possible I suppose.

On balance I'd still agree with the NR suggestion though.
Report Jacko2017 August 21, 2025 12:39 PM BST
Agree with honcho and it would allow the public to make an informed opinion on a horse's condition on the day and ongoing from one run to another. This data may also give some insight into a trainers methods and how fit the horse truly is hence why they would never allow it , I wasn't aware the done this for greyhounds makes it even more crazy that it's not available in horse-racing
Report uptheirons August 21, 2025 1:41 PM BST
Which is why being a Paddock Judge is virtually impossible for every horse
Report uptheirons August 21, 2025 1:42 PM BST
That is to judge every horse,especially ones you haven't seen before
Report mitolo August 21, 2025 2:44 PM BST
never happens in the u.s. as the scales are usually next to the winners circle, or square or oblong and you practically have to walk through it to get to the jokeys room
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 21, 2025 2:49 PM BST
wouldnt stop a weight discretion though.
Report JML August 21, 2025 3:10 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps20 Aug 25 21:55

Johnny The Guesser 20 Aug 25 21:36
...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal...

and declared a non runner..cant benefit.

This is an interesting question and issue - I basically agree with rico that weigh in DQs should instead be non-runner, but Jonny's idea that it could be deliberate is tricky.

If NR you couldn't win by laying it - but, you could still win by backing the 2nd at huge price IR? Not an easy scam to pull, but a possible I suppose.

On balance I'd still agree with the NR suggestion though.







A jockey could weigh in light when his connections want money back from a failed gamble.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 21, 2025 3:17 PM BST
how would a jockey lose weight from unsadding enclosure to scales?
Report uptheirons August 21, 2025 3:18 PM BST
A pointless debate as it is not going to happen
Report mitolo August 21, 2025 3:22 PM BST
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Replies: 4618220 Aug 25 21:13 
the biggest scandal going is failing to weigh in..if a jockey weighs in light and is disq that means if you bet it you cudnt ever win..shud be declared a non runner..just simply nonsensical




no it aint. what if the thing runs almost all the race and the weight cloth falls out near the finish? ive seen this happen and it won by 50 lengths. its not a n/r
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 21, 2025 3:24 PM BST
mitolo 21 Aug 25 15:22 
no it aint. what if the thing runs almost all the race and the weight cloth falls out near the finish? ive seen this happen and it won by 50 lengths. its not a n/r

the punter who bet it still cannot win
Report mitolo August 21, 2025 4:07 PM BST
no but its an accident and it cannot be a n/r because it has affected the chances of others, it might have caused interference to another runner and affected its chances or it might have impeded another runner and knocked the jock off or set off fast and knackered the others or got a flyer and left the rest behind or came out of the stalls sideways and hampered another or lotsa things

hard cheese. you cant declare horses that have run n/rs
Report LoyalHoncho August 21, 2025 4:20 PM BST
Good point mitolo.
Report spyker August 21, 2025 6:05 PM BST
I know it is with dogs ut they are a bit smaller!  I was told a way to fix a dog was to starve it for a day or so ( just so its very hungry) and feed it as much porridge as you can stuff into it as near to race a you dare, can also dehydrate them and feed it tonnes of water. I presume none of that goes on now..........
Report Hayden August 21, 2025 6:38 PM BST
I've owned good Open greyhounds and won lots of races , bit of pre-race lemonade and/or slipping the lad a score to stamp on the ground in front of the trap were two that worked well for me , especially when i'd backed another dog in the race.   Happy
Report breadnbutter August 21, 2025 7:04 PM BST
Disskushin starting to move in a meaningful way and now we have a great comparison, uk racing = azerbajmin league div tree, is that like uk where that means div 5?



You should not be able to get off horse and wonder through crowd to weigh room, get off horse, get on scales, in full, should be on course TV too, it's not rocket science, if you backed a winner you watching till jockey gets on scales and draws correct weight.
Report Callisto-moon August 21, 2025 7:08 PM BST
ROCO=PLUM
Report breadnbutter August 21, 2025 7:24 PM BST
Plums are massive and plenty fool this year
Report uptheirons August 21, 2025 7:36 PM BST
The current system is perfectly adequate
Report breadnbutter August 21, 2025 7:51 PM BST
herd u the phurst time
Report Callisto-moon August 21, 2025 8:05 PM BST
rico is a pair of plums in a sack.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 21, 2025 10:18 PM BST
forums greatest retard is back...Fo@d ydc.

asap.
Report uptheirons August 21, 2025 10:29 PM BST
Seaside disappears and Calisto returns.
A remarkable coincidenceLaugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 21, 2025 10:48 PM BST
both remarkably grade A retardations.
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