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20 Aug 25
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clerk sez baraclona didnt weigh in..
barcalona sez aye a did weigh in... now checking CCTV. more comedy gold. |
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confirmed he did in fact weigh in...
pmsl. |
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Unbelievable Jeff.
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berk of the scales
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hindeed.
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Only has to check the Weigh Out and In.
Obviously too taxing |
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Scales should be outside so everyone can see what's hap, should be paddock scales for horses as well, weighed as they enter.
Even if the scale info was displayed but even that's too much to expect from a sport still living in the 19th century. |
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Have long felt that the weight of horse should be made public on the day agree totally with bread and butter
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How would you police such a suggestion,jacko?
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the biggest scandal going is failing to weigh in..if a jockey weighs in light and is disq that means if you bet it you cudnt ever win..shud be declared a non runner..just simply nonsensical.
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...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal...
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Trainer states horses current weight on final declaration stage then horse is weighed on arrival when the checks are being done to ensure correct horse is at the track and the information is then made public very uncomplicated to me anyhow
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Johnny The Guesser 20 Aug 25 21:36
...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal... and declared a non runner..cant benefit. |
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They weigh them in at greyhound tracks, allowed plus or minus a 1kg.
Could be done with horses if the desire was there. Different scale of course. |
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Out of curiosity do america have a different system i am obviously not sure but I have never noticed this occurring there not saying it hasn't just that in my degenerate days I gambled quite a lot on American racing and Azerbaijan division 3 reserve games also in truth
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First time for everything. Objection to the Clerk of the Scales's objection.
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Have long felt that the weight of horse should be made public on the day agree totally with bread and butter
Why, how would that help. If I told you my weight today is 100kg what does that tell you? On its own it's utterly meaningless, obv over time it can have some meaning (and I presume this can be checked in countries that do weigh horses) but does it correspond (same weight as when won) to its chances of winning? |
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wate fluck chew hates.
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It does with greyhounds spyker. And yes, weight variation is a pointer to the chance of the dog. Dogs are occasionally removed from a card by the stewards because of an excessive w.v. Whether it is relevant to a thoroughbred and its chance of winning I’ve no idea. It’s a subject that is much debated. For instance, when Ken Patterson tells us in the paddock that a horse looks in a certain condition it is in fact meaningless unless we know how it has looked in the past, win or lose.
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Rico-Dangleflaps20 Aug 25 21:55
Johnny The Guesser 20 Aug 25 21:36 ...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal... and declared a non runner..cant benefit. This is an interesting question and issue - I basically agree with rico that weigh in DQs should instead be non-runner, but Jonny's idea that it could be deliberate is tricky. If NR you couldn't win by laying it - but, you could still win by backing the 2nd at huge price IR? Not an easy scam to pull, but a possible I suppose. On balance I'd still agree with the NR suggestion though. |
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Agree with honcho and it would allow the public to make an informed opinion on a horse's condition on the day and ongoing from one run to another. This data may also give some insight into a trainers methods and how fit the horse truly is hence why they would never allow it , I wasn't aware the done this for greyhounds makes it even more crazy that it's not available in horse-racing
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Which is why being a Paddock Judge is virtually impossible for every horse
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That is to judge every horse,especially ones you haven't seen before
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never happens in the u.s. as the scales are usually next to the winners circle, or square or oblong and you practically have to walk through it to get to the jokeys room
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wouldnt stop a weight discretion though.
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Rico-Dangleflaps20 Aug 25 21:55
Johnny The Guesser 20 Aug 25 21:36 ...and open the door for a jockey to deliberately weigh in light...?....now that would be a scandal... and declared a non runner..cant benefit. This is an interesting question and issue - I basically agree with rico that weigh in DQs should instead be non-runner, but Jonny's idea that it could be deliberate is tricky. If NR you couldn't win by laying it - but, you could still win by backing the 2nd at huge price IR? Not an easy scam to pull, but a possible I suppose. On balance I'd still agree with the NR suggestion though. A jockey could weigh in light when his connections want money back from a failed gamble. |
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how would a jockey lose weight from unsadding enclosure to scales?
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A pointless debate as it is not going to happen
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Rico-Dangleflaps Joined: 07 Sep 18
Replies: 4618220 Aug 25 21:13 the biggest scandal going is failing to weigh in..if a jockey weighs in light and is disq that means if you bet it you cudnt ever win..shud be declared a non runner..just simply nonsensical no it aint. what if the thing runs almost all the race and the weight cloth falls out near the finish? ive seen this happen and it won by 50 lengths. its not a n/r |
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mitolo 21 Aug 25 15:22
no it aint. what if the thing runs almost all the race and the weight cloth falls out near the finish? ive seen this happen and it won by 50 lengths. its not a n/r the punter who bet it still cannot win |
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no but its an accident and it cannot be a n/r because it has affected the chances of others, it might have caused interference to another runner and affected its chances or it might have impeded another runner and knocked the jock off or set off fast and knackered the others or got a flyer and left the rest behind or came out of the stalls sideways and hampered another or lotsa things
hard cheese. you cant declare horses that have run n/rs |
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Good point mitolo.
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I know it is with dogs ut they are a bit smaller! I was told a way to fix a dog was to starve it for a day or so ( just so its very hungry) and feed it as much porridge as you can stuff into it as near to race a you dare, can also dehydrate them and feed it tonnes of water. I presume none of that goes on now..........
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I've owned good Open greyhounds and won lots of races , bit of pre-race lemonade and/or slipping the lad a score to stamp on the ground in front of the trap were two that worked well for me , especially when i'd backed another dog in the race.
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Disskushin starting to move in a meaningful way and now we have a great comparison, uk racing = azerbajmin league div tree, is that like uk where that means div 5?
You should not be able to get off horse and wonder through crowd to weigh room, get off horse, get on scales, in full, should be on course TV too, it's not rocket science, if you backed a winner you watching till jockey gets on scales and draws correct weight. |
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ROCO=PLUM
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Plums are massive and plenty fool this year
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The current system is perfectly adequate
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herd u the phurst time
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