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By:
HoratioNelson
When: 03 Aug 25 18:03
It is day 4 mind...
By:
HoratioNelson
When: 03 Aug 25 18:05
Stumps called....Ill go tomorrow
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 18:31
Barring non stop rain tomorrow (looks very unlikely).It will not be a draw
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 25 18:35
Or a Just Stop Oil / Justice For Dads / Free Palestinian activist gets on the wicket with a tin of gloss paint.
By:
elisjohn
When: 03 Aug 25 18:49
thai is still on
By:
elisjohn
When: 03 Aug 25 18:55
just remember a thai is not a draw ( loads dont know that ),
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 19:08
if it's a thai are all bets void?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 19:12
Just seen rules, dead heat payout on the 2 'winners', draw bets are settled as losers.

I'd better get down there with some orange paint.
By:
leif
When: 03 Aug 25 19:13
probably, inasmuch that a tie would be settled as a dead-heat therefore any bets wagered as a draw are losing bets.
Engerland will win in any caseCool
By:
comingupthehill
When: 03 Aug 25 19:30
Bit crafty really ,given there’s only ever been 2 ties I think in test history,might actually be 1,

And given a tie is effectively a draw,to keep thinks simple,why don’t they just call a tie a draw,

Do they really need a get out clause.a tie must be 1000/1 anyway.
By:
Hayden
When: 03 Aug 25 19:37
It's not a get out clause swifty , before the 1st ball bowled draw = 2.8 vs tie = name your own price , they couldn't be two more different markets as you know.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 03 Aug 25 19:41
Why don’t they just combine the 2 ,and set 1 price for draw or tie.
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 19:46
The "just stop oil" ****s have decided that their principles are not worth further prison sentences.
Barry Hearne threatened to sue if they repeated the snooker atrocity and it has worked (so far).
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 19:48
tossr
By:
Cider
When: 03 Aug 25 19:51
It's an obvious distinction. A draw is when time has run out to complete the game, or it's acknowledged early that will be the case. A tie is a completed game where both sides scored the same number of runs. They are quite different.
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 19:56
Excess of £121M Traded and BF will get relatively little out of it as most is Traded money
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 19:56
I can see the difference but if the tie's that rare why not just combine draw/tie as an outcome as cuth suggests above, not sure a dead heat payout is the right way... although with price fluctuations that'll still produce big winners and big losers too with no voids required so right up betfair's street for comms.
By:
Hayden
When: 03 Aug 25 19:56
Sorry cuth got you mixed up with swifty   Happy

...because it can be compared to coupling as in horse racing which i assume we all agree would be ridiculous and prevent punters from backing 2nd strings at big prices.

You could imagine the reaction if a punter wanted a tie and ended up with 2.8 being coupled with the draw , two totally different markets as they should and always will be.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 19:58
if those stats are correct of 2(or 1) ties in the whole of test history they'll have a long wait!
By:
Hayden
When: 03 Aug 25 20:03
Which is a good enough reason to leave things as they are with no complications , it's been brought up now but still big odds to happen.
By:
elisjohn
When: 03 Aug 25 20:06
ALL mmatch bets on test are VOID ON EXCHANFEr
By:
elisjohn
When: 03 Aug 25 20:06
EXCHANGE
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 25 20:09

Aug 3, 2025 -- 7:56PM, uptheirons wrote:


Excess of £121M Traded and BF will get relatively little out of it as most is Traded money


I do not know what you mean with that statement.

By:
Hayden
When: 03 Aug 25 20:10
There was around half a dozen tied in the IPL last season so all voided , the average liquidity over the six games would have been around £60 million a match.
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 20:12
It means,Cardinal, that most o the bets are trading positions.
The only commission is on winnings
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 20:16
exactly irons ,people obsessed with the traded volumes, peanuts changes hands (between Indians) and BF make a couple of quid.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 25 20:21
You are both wrong!

All of that lot is trading positions and I'll be paying my usual commission on it as will every other market participant.

By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 25 20:22

Aug 3, 2025 -- 8:16PM, swiftynifty wrote:


exactly irons ,people obsessed with the traded volumes, peanuts changes hands (between Indians) and BF make a couple of quid.


Absolutely Clueless statement

By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 20:23
what have you staked, what's your P/L figure?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 20:26
you've traded 2k? you'll win about 100 quid and pay BF 2 quid? the only mistake I made is you're (probably) not Indian
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 20:30
With a username like Cardinal,I think that that is unlikely,swifty
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 20:33
Correct,swifty.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 20:35
appears the Cardinal has taken a vow of silence for now.
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 20:39
If only,swifty.
It is a fact that commission is only paid on the final winning position on any event
By:
swiftynifty
When: 03 Aug 25 20:42
irons, you watching the game? looks like we've found Cresswell's replacement, having a cracking game. With Scarles as back up Emerson can be on his bike.
By:
uptheirons
When: 03 Aug 25 20:43
KWP looking lively along with the rest.
I am pleased|
By:
comingupthehill
When: 03 Aug 25 20:46
Only 2 ties in history of tests,1960,1986.

There really is no need to have this market.

Given betfair only offer 1000/1,it’s a con,should be 50000/1.

Does anyone back this,or are they believing they re backing a draw.

Completely pointless market.

Be interesting to know if what percentage of tie backers,ring up asking for winnings when it’s a draw,only to be told,it’s in the rules mate.

Based on the tie market,there should be and option in roulette,for the ball to land on the wire between numbers,as there’s more chance.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 03 Aug 25 20:48
2500 tests,so true odds,1250/1
By:
elisjohn
When: 03 Aug 25 20:50
I DO RECALL A TEST  MATCH ONLY FEW YEARS BACK, AND THE DRAW WAS MASSIVE ODDS AND THERE WASNT A CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING , YET THE DRAW ODDS CRASHED INTO SINGLE FIGURES, AS THE TIE WAS ON ,
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