Poor Trueshan

looks it

Why do they keep running thats sad.

Shame, dies in battle.

looked bad   gone on too long with him or just bad luck ?

7 years graft - over £2 million 

Such a shame

One too much dance,  should have been retired when it's form started tailing off last few yrs , what shame to such a brace horse

Yep awful to see.....hope a miracle happens

Must be awful for the jockey when that happens.

So sad for everyone.

Cruel twist of fate that the horse who has had so much of his career defined by the trainer preserving him against fast ground succombs in this way.

Looked bad, hope for good news, likely a very sad end for a great horse over the years.

Tragic.  Hollie will be emotional.  She associates the horse with her mother and her illness/operation/recovery.

Common sense should come into play at some stage,  I remember oliver sherwood had good chaser in hemmings colours , during latter end of career it used to get wobbles after race from exhaustion and get oxygen but still tye clown sherwood kept running and eventually killed it , tye oxygen didn't work in end and he collapsed and died , greed is awful thing and these trainers like sherwood would give u guff he loves it etc blah blah but someone has to call it as it is , the acid test would be if it was human being, would u keep continuing

I agree with you Mics.  Well said imv.

Can't get over critical guys , forums have hindsight but connections don't.

under std 1st race amazed king run him after his history

For me was never the same horse after it carried that huge weight on the all weather, should have been retired long ago

Very sad ,just unlucky the stable have done nothing wrong.

Jul 29, 2025 -- 3:21PM, second again wrote:

Very sad ,just unlucky the stable have done nothing wrong.

we differ there

Won GP races since Newcastle.Shame but no one could see that happening.

for a horse who has wanted jumping ground his whole career to run him on time-based g/f flat ground is crackers imo
probably his last year in training anyway even w/o what happened today v sad been a smashing horse

Has.

Put down. RIP

It the price we all pay (humans and horses) for watching this amazing sport.....unfortunately Trueshan has paid the ultimate price

I’m aware P he’d won 11 before Newcastle 12 then, but 4 after, just my view that winning that race wasn’t a good thing for him.

Sad outcome for him.

As for the ground it’s been said there’s an ease.

Remember backing him when won on AW and was a lesser known rag in the race, Hollie Doyle rode, and it got me out of a hole at that time with that win. Sad day

The horse has just been very unlucky.

declaring and pulling out at last min finally caught up with them,the showers/general feel of day,not the times,tempted them in to running as they were already there

Taking a cynical view, connections probably factoring his age and deterioration in form into the decision to run him on faster ground. I guess it proved Alan King was right in withdrawing the horse over the years whenever the ground was unfavourable.

It can happen in a field as we know but sometimes the owners have to know when to call it day. As Cooper said she was sorry that she’d ran Sweet William in the Gold Cup and put him through that. Admitted they knew he’d not like the distance.

He’s left it well late to declare a non runner many times in the past.

Injury could have happened at home, however still very very very sad. Poor Hollie as well, from joy to despair. Trueshan a true warrior and stalwart of recent times. RIP.

I can't think of a worse sight in racing. It never fails to make me gasp.

You have to genuinely feel for the poor horse, and those involved that most likely absolutely adored him.

A crying shame

And the stable lads and lasses who go home without one.

True Dela. All involved will be in pieces tonight. These stable lads and lasses are incredible.

i remember that sherwood horse keeling over. if its true it regularly had the wobbles after a race then it should have been taken out of the trainers hands

rip trueshan

Many Clouds?

Mitolo off course it's true u can research it and when it died,  sherwood gave up the guff that it loved game blah blah,  they had to have  oxygen ready for it after each race , horse should be retired as old enough too , sherwood Is first class clown anyway lost any bit of respect for him after that

Yes many clouds I think

I had the pleasure of visiting Rhonehurst 3 times. On two of those occasions Sherwood took myself and my Mrs up to the gallops in his jeep. Very surreal sitting with a legend of the game chatting away, and he never came across as hurried. They have a tree planted for Many Clouds which is visible from the gallops....Sherwood adored him. A gem of a man. Asked if I could contribute to the stable for his time and he asked that I make a contribution to the IJF. All class.

I hope he is well actually. Not heard much about him since he joined Derhams.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/features/series/we-came-to-celebrate-one-her...

Mics.

All I will say is that in my humble opinion you could not be more wrong.

RIP Trueshan!

Horatio he mite say that but he kept running him in very precarious situation,  I remember thinking myself the second last time he ran why not just retire , he got the tye winnles that day and oxygen but the last time he ran he didn't get up sorry Horatio for telling facts,  that horse should have been retired

Happened to me once with a horse called Rock Legend.....had won its previous 2 or 3 races and broke his leg ....i think it was Kempton in the early 90s i think.....was heartbroken

Horatio if u can't see what I'm saying is factual and not relying on sentimental guff from sherwood , if cared bout horse that horse be long retired and out hunting not gun put to head to make money for him

Mics....If Sherwood was anything imo it was almost over cautious. He would neither hurt a hair on a horses head let alone run one that either wasn't fit or completely safe to run.

MC was the absolute apple of his eye. He wouldn't have risked any horse let alone MC. He had plenty of relatively poor horses in his yard when I visited and they were also never rushed or never or extended for something they couldn't do.

He was and is a horseman of the highest order. You are of course completely welcome to your opinion.

To add, when he spoke I can assure it was never guff.

Horatio the horse was getting wobbles after every race it ran in his latter days if u can't see the issue , there is no hope , it was only matter of time before he killed him , the bha should have stepped in really , instead of worrying bout extra whip a jockey does , there is no excuse for sherwood simple as that , greed took over and pride

Horatio if u dont believe me I'd ask general public to view many clouds in his latter days and his wobbles and oxygen needed after every race , only a fool would argue for sherwood

It was only matter of time Horatio and it didn't take long to put him to his demise

Horatio regarding trueshan owners I wouldn't be so harsh to them as no tell tale sign of a demise , regarding sherwood the writing was on wall,  I've no sympathy for sherwood but plenty for many clouds that regularly used to collapse and wobble in his latter days and then eventually to his demise , I would classify sherwood as causing unnecessary animal cruelty when no need

Can't blame connections - no-one was saying BEFORE the race there was a risk to its health. Saying it might not run to its best on faster ground (if indeed it was) is NOT the same as saying it will be killed if it runs. Very sad but this is life.

Good post Coney   

Mics, there have been plenty on here who ignore facts to promote an image they want to promote but you take the biscuit as far as Many Clouds is concerned i.e you have not a clue wtf you are talking about.

imagine if today was your 1st day interest in racing
one death
3 pulled up
one kicked behind the stalls wd
2 horse jocks walking 5f down to start at bev ,one bolting 15 mins delay
one fancied horse withdrawn an he earlier in a group 2 no one on tv realised
group 2 on good ground spread out across the tracked,strung out like the retreat from lenningrad
you,d rather stick pins in your eyes tomorrow for more entertainment

Jul 29, 2025 -- 4:26PM, HoratioNelson wrote:

Mics....If Sherwood was anything imo it was almost over cautious. He would neither hurt a hair on a horses head let alone run one that either wasn't fit or completely safe to run.MC was the absolute apple of his eye. He wouldn't have risked any horse let alone MC. He had plenty of relatively poor horses in his yard when I visited and they were also never rushed or never or extended for something they couldn't do.He was and is a horseman of the highest order. You are of course completely welcome to your opinion.To add, when he spoke I can assure it was never guff.

Was he not the trainer who colluded with Paul Webber to defraud an owner????

The reaction to Trueshan's demise is magnified a several times over because of the emotional attachment many have to the horse, he would be in many punters lists of favourite horses and it naturally leads to some over-reaction.

Absolutely gutted, what a horse.........a real warrior.
Condolences to all involved. RIP Trueshan

Yes he was, a very poor decision that effectively set him back as a trainer big time. I imagine many owners kept a wide berth after that.

Many Clouds got him back on the big stage, winning the Hennessy, a Grand National (carrying 11st9lb) as well as the titanic battle beating Thistlecrack in the Cotswold Chase. Many Clouds died of a heart attack shortly after passing the finishing line. Sherwood thought he had solved the needing oxygen problem that first surfaced after Many Clouds won the GN, following a breathing operation. Thistlecrack was never the same afterwards and never won again.

100% it’s fun to run. Both he and Webber
Were caught will their hands in the till
Both of them are thieves. Ran up their own
Horse, bought for pennies, ran it up to
30 or 40k. Exterior profiles owner, if memory serves
Serves. Horse by Tale Quale ??

Jul 29, 2025 -- 6:27PM, Storm Alert wrote:

Yes he was, a very poor decision that effectively set him back as a trainer big time. I imagine many owners kept a wide berth after that.Many Clouds got him back on the big stage, winning the Hennessy, a Grand National (carrying 11st9lb) as well as the titanic battle beating Thistlecrack in the Cotswold Chase. Many Clouds died of a heart attack shortly after passing the finishing line. Sherwood thought he had solved the needing oxygen problem that first surfaced after Many Clouds won the GN, following a breathing operation. Thistlecrack was never the same afterwards and never won again.

Thank you....

I know nothing about the above. We can all be wrong about someone but from what I saw and heard I couldn't and wouldn't fault his ability, his care and his knowledge.

I do know of MC's previous condition, but you can bet both himself and TH would have had him in a field if he was advised one more push could burst the horse.

Didn't Sprintre Sacre have the same condition, or similar?

Sad news,

A very special horse.

He was indeed a special horse, desperately sad news.

a moving interview on RTV

Trueshan to be buried alongside Viking Flagship and Katchit.

The only issue I had with that interview was when King said he was phoned and told it was catastrophic and he told them to wait until he'd got there, I assume that it is possible to make the horse comfortable during the time it took for King to get to the horse??????

Another pulled up, it’s not good.

Trueshan was sedated so they could look at him this was from James Given on RTV yesterday, watch James at the end of the interview when asked about losing a horse in these circumstances. Thankfully I did not see the race and never will.Trueshan was certainly a great.

Regarding Many Clouds the day he won that Chase he was the top rated chaser in GB.

True shame