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Rico-Dangleflaps
23 Jul 25 14:14
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as blatant as it comes..
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Report lapsy pa July 23, 2025 2:17 PM BST
She didn't jump a fence but the betting before was v telling.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 2:24 PM BST
2.3 to 3.9 was a clue but many have gone in despite the drift.
Very small for Chasing
Report G Hall July 23, 2025 2:51 PM BST
Jeanie mac something has to pay for expenses for galway
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 2:58 PM BST
as i've said a million times on here...

if the authorities turn blind eyes all the time..

folk will just do whatever they want...

anyone who watches Newcastle during the darkest days of Winter must surely know that by now ?
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 3:14 PM BST
imagine this was one of your first bets on horse racing...

never anywhere near getting involved...

who would blame anyone if they said...

fk this i'm going to have a bet on the footy instead of this utter crap...

at least they will feel they got a run for their money win lose or draw...

and the folk who run the sport wonder why young folk aren't interested in horse racing ffs...

(certainly from a betting point of view at least).
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 3:18 PM BST
will i bet on a 12 runner horse race where my horse might never be seen with a realistic chance ?

or shall i have a bet on the football / tennis / snooker where it's a 3 or 2 runner race and more than likely my pick is trying their best...

the clowns that run the sport in the Uk and Ireland think they will take the horse racing option...

fkn idiots.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 3:19 PM BST
Do you really think that The Stewards are going to pull in JP over there on a Chasing debutant?
You have to be realistic in life
Report Benjibop July 23, 2025 3:23 PM BST
I cant remember the last time i punted one of his horses
Report Benjibop July 23, 2025 3:24 PM BST
Stewards dont care what jp does ,,hes good for the game
Report FOYLESWAR July 23, 2025 3:29 PM BST
e zuntuchabal
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 3:30 PM BST
i'm past caring what the stewards do now irons...

it's blatantly obvious that we now have a 'you can do what you want' policy...

as far as i'm concerned racing can go and fk itself...

absolutely rancid sport imv.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 3:30 PM BST
Has been proven on many occasions over there Foyles
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 3:32 PM BST
There was no case to answer anyway.
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 3:35 PM BST
apologies...

i meant to say...

absolutely rancid sport full of vile human beings.
Report Mics July 23, 2025 3:40 PM BST
Tom faulkner should have been warned off last nite after what havlin did , u couldn't get any more blatant not one strike of whip and havlin yanking horses head back so not to place,  if ran on its merit it would have won with consulate ease , horse drifted from morning price of 3 out to 10 on machine , they profited from place market too
Report Mics July 23, 2025 3:42 PM BST
I notice now too bha don't seem to mind bout cheating anymore , no one ever pulled in now , but if a jockey tries to win by extra whip , they ban him ticketboo
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 3:45 PM BST
It is usually the "small fry" that get nabbed and has always been the case
Report Mics July 23, 2025 3:46 PM BST
It's only a guess but I'd say the bha and bookmaking industry have become to agreement that a certain amount of favs have to be stopped throughout season , the more favs beat the more money for industry given higher bookmakers profits , in all my years punting I'd never seen so many short ones stuffed
Report Mics July 23, 2025 3:57 PM BST
John francome said before that bha should open their own bookie and let the other shoiters go to hell and deny picture rights to them , profits would not be going to shareholders and people could get on unlike present situation but unfortunately this will never happen as there is too much corruption intertwined between bha and big bookmakers plus governments on both side of irish sea with bookmakers ,it's a cosy cartel of corruption, ibas ,gambling commission are all facets of bookmaker Industry to keep enclosed shop
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 4:01 PM BST
I don't think that Francombe is in any position to offer advice on integrityLaugh
Report LoyalHoncho July 23, 2025 4:01 PM BST
Mics.  15.42.   Fair point.
Report bettysboy July 23, 2025 4:02 PM BST
Imagine - a bookie owned, governed and run by the BHA?
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 4:05 PM BST
They couldn't run a raffleLaugh
Report Mat22 July 23, 2025 4:49 PM BST
aving a good day JP Cool
Report ASonOfWottonBassett July 23, 2025 4:54 PM BST
Jeaniemacaroney had been well backed on chase debut but she lacked any fluency and never figured. [Tim Mitchell]

Taxi for Tim
Report Tiger Tiger July 23, 2025 5:05 PM BST
Jeaniemacaroney made mistakes in her last hurdle race, then won a maiden on the flat, today made her debut over fences, the bookies as they sometimes do with a Mullins horse, put her in the market too short, she didnt jump well at all, especially at the 2nd 3rd and 4th and made another mistake 4 out, I very much doubt that JP made any money from this performance, does anyone think that he is that desperate?
Report ASonOfWottonBassett July 23, 2025 5:13 PM BST
It's not that he's pressing pink obviously but does he enjoy laying one out for a novice handicap chase? Yes he does.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 5:14 PM BST
This one would fit on a charm braceletLaugh
Report Hayden July 23, 2025 5:16 PM BST
Unless i'm far more naive than i think i am i'd say JP wouldn't get involved in that laying nonsense for comparative peanuts but pretty sure he has manufactured the odd handicap mark on occasions.   Grin
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 5:23 PM BST
If you know that one will not be winning,it gives you a better chance of backing the winner if you wished.
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 5:39 PM BST
bottom line is...

JP can do whatever he wants...

we know it...

he knows it...

they know it...

authorities too scared to go anywhere near asking a few Q's...

a sad reflection on a scumbag of a sport imv.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 5:42 PM BST
I would state for the defence that JP puts enormous amounts of money into the game and would be an enormous loss to the sport
Report bettysboy July 23, 2025 5:44 PM BST
bottom line is, surely, owner pays a trainer so as the horse wins a race; and it is the trainers job to do the business for the owner, hiding a horses true ability is an art and then finding the race you want it to win is skill and luck combined?
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 5:46 PM BST
Correct,bettysboy.
Nobody forces you to back his horses and I rarely do except for the top graders
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 5:47 PM BST
as i said..

scumbag of a sport.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 5:50 PM BST
It is a fabulous sport but you have to be very selective,Hibby
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 5:52 PM BST
that might be your view irons (and you are fully entitled to it)...

certainly ain't mine.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 5:53 PM BST
That is fair enough Hibby.
Good luck
Report bettysboy July 23, 2025 6:05 PM BST
HH - do you bet on racing? It seems you are "out of love with the game". If you do what compels you to do so?
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 6:06 PM BST
yes (in running)...

winning money.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 6:07 PM BST
It seems that like many he could once make a profit but no longer can bettysboy
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 6:08 PM BST
i wouldn't be here if i couldn't make a profit irons...

thanx for the concern tho.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 6:09 PM BST
You certainly do your share of bleating for a winnerLaugh
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 6:11 PM BST
it's not bleating...

it's commenting on what i see.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 6:13 PM BST
It is what it is Hibby.
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 6:14 PM BST
and most of what i see is a sport that became a farce a long time ago...

a sport where it has a media that plays the game...

and authorities who are supposed to police the sport that turns blind eyes on a daily basis...

conclusion...

scumbag sport.
Report bettysboy July 23, 2025 6:15 PM BST
never tried IR betting - GL if you make it pay HH
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 6:22 PM BST
ta betty...

i've never hidden the fact that there is no way i could make it pay pre-race...

i wouldn't even consider trying it.
Report uptheirons July 23, 2025 6:27 PM BST
That explains plenty,Hibby
Report leif July 23, 2025 6:28 PM BST
Expect it, and accept it.
They do what they like oer the water and have done for a long time.
No-one twitches or blathers.
Report HappyHibby July 23, 2025 6:29 PM BST
it's a sad reflection on a 'sport' when the first consideration is 'which ones are trying their best here ?'...

and before you educate me and tell me that means there is an opportunity...

i know that...

but i ain't wasting my time trying to 2nd guess these vile human beings.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 23, 2025 11:28 PM BST
Philip Rothwell will not be appealing against the stewards' decision at Ballinrobe on Tuesday that deemed Tiernan Power Roche to have made insufficient effort on the trainer's Coolboy Christie.

Despite an IHRB veterinary officer reporting the four-year-old to be clinically abnormal post-race, the stewards suspended Coolboy Christie for 60 days and the rider for 14.

Coolboy Christie went off a 33-1 chance on his second start over hurdles having finished 13th of 16 at Roscommon 15 days earlier. He was held up in last by Power Roche and made a couple of mistakes, before making decent progress to chase the leading pack turning for home.

After another less than fluent jump at the last, his effort petered out and he was beaten 15 and a half lengths into eighth of the 13 runners in the 2m11/2f maiden contest.

Stewards subsequently heard evidence from the rider and David Nolan, Rothwell's stable representative at the track. Power Roche told the stewards his instructions from Rothwell were "to drop in last and to settle his mount who has previously run keen" and that he "made a few jumping errors but he was happy with the ride in that he had improved from his previous runs and ran to the best of his abilities".

Nolan confirmed the instructions and told stewards Rothwell had advised him by phone that Power Roche "could have been seen to make more of an effort in the closing stages". Stewards also noted the IHRB veterinary officer's report.

Anxious wait - Tiernan Power Roche leads the conditional riders' championship but must sit out the final five days
Tiernan Power Roche: was deemed to have made insufficient effort on Coolboy Christie at Ballinrobe
Credit: Patrick McCann
They concluded Power Roche did not make "real and substantial efforts" to attain the best possible finishing position and meted out the suspensions.

Rothwell said on Wednesday he was not planning to appeal due to the optics looking poor in the closing stages of the contest, but he felt Coolboy Christie's condition post-race should have been taken more into account.

"I thought on the evening the stewards were correct, as visually it didn't look very good," he said. "However, when I spoke to Tiernan, he said the horse had given maximum effort, and the vets discovered he had a heart murmur afterwards.

"They found the horse to be clinically abnormal and Tiernan felt he was tiring. With that in mind, it's hard to understand. But I'm not going to appeal. I get where the stewards were coming from."

The trainer added that Coolboy Christie has a tendency to race exuberantly and that he was still learning, the Ballinrobe race being just his fourth start on the track after a couple of point-to-point runs.

"He'd been very keen in his bumpers with Phidelma [Elvin] and is a work in progress," he said. "Tiernan thought he improved from his run at Roscommon and was happy with him. Tiernan has a clean record, so I thought 14 days was a bit excessive."

BOSTON STRANGLER
Report HappyHibby July 24, 2025 7:20 AM BST
window dressing.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 24, 2025 10:04 AM BST
re-watched..in hindsight macaroni did jump poorly.
Report the dealer July 24, 2025 10:11 AM BST
It surely must have schooled better than that at home, lost lengths at every fence, never jumped one of them. As poor a round of jumping I've seen in a long time.
Report lapsy pa July 24, 2025 10:19 AM BST
Another poster made the fair comment she jumped poorly over hurdles previous, i doubt you could put her over fences again after that display yesterday,i would hope not anyway on that. Indeed her schooling must have been better but Torrens did well to get around.
Report the dealer July 24, 2025 10:24 AM BST
He did, a few would have gave up early doors.

You would hope she doesn't run in a chase again LP
Report lapsy pa July 24, 2025 10:32 AM BST
I probably would The Dealer,she is only 5 though, beaten off 122 over hurdles though a classy race,not sure she could get much higher in that sphere. Her flat win beat Seo Linn reads v well though SL is looking a bit exposed on the flat. I would personally if mine would give her a go on the level for a while.
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