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By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 18:59
You have "the balls to call out" on an internet forum Coneygree,nothing more
By:
Cider
When: 15 Jul 25 19:02
People don't tend to get bird for first dd offence, even if crashing. You might think that they should, but that's a different debate. He hasn't got special treatment.

The Labour government are moving further away from jailing people.
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 19:05
Possibly on account of Prisons overflowing with offenders Cider
By:
Cider
When: 15 Jul 25 19:07
clearly you choose to create more places than let people off
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 19:09
That would be far too sensible Cider
By:
Cider
When: 15 Jul 25 19:11
A dangerous driver who caused a drunk and drug driving collision has been given a suspended sentence and has been disqualified from driving.

Elliott Leonard-Diss, from Street End Lane, Heathfield, tested positive for cocaine and was more than twice over the legal limit of alcohol.

On the morning of May 28, Sussex police were called to a three-car collision on the A22 Uckfield bypass.

Leonard-Diss had attempted to undertake traffic by using a layby, but lost control and ended up in a bush.

At Lewes Crown Court he was disqualified from driving for three years and was sentenced to a 14-month suspended prison sentence.


plenty of examples
By:
Coneygree1971
When: 15 Jul 25 19:12

Jul 15, 2025 -- 6:53PM, uptheirons wrote:


It is not for me or you to judge a sentence passed by a Court Coneygree as we were not in full possession of the facts but don't let that stop you ranting on


Your being deliberately ignorant. We know all the facts and it is perfectly reasonable for any citizen to judge whether a punishment fits the crime, that is how the criminal justice system evolves; it tends to reflect changes in public attitudes. A good example of this is, funnily enough, drink driving. Once upon a time it was kind of accepted but due to the horrific number of people being killed on our roads the publics attitude changed and the law was tightened up (literally, with seat belts!).

You just avoiding answering the question because you know what the answer is and your too insecure about your own opinions to admit you might be wrong!

By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 19:18
Keep it up Coneygree it might make you feel betterLaugh
By:
CaptainCristy
When: 15 Jul 25 19:24
Unfortunately his attitude in the interview shows exactly why he did it again. Fcuk you I can do what I like, stop picking on me is his general view of life it would seem.
By:
CaptainCristy
When: 15 Jul 25 19:29
There are a lot of people suffering with his ‘fcuk everyone else’ condition these days though.
By:
Cider
When: 15 Jul 25 19:30
What offence was he charged with?

McPartlin pleaded guilty to an offence of driving with excess alcohol ('drink driving'), that resulted from a road traffic accident which occurred on 18th March 2018.

His breath alcohol reading was 75 microgrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath - the legal limit is 35 microgrammes per 100 millilitres of breath. So, a little over twice the legal limit.

What was the sentence?

McPartlin was fined the sum of £86,000 and disqualified from driving for a period of 20 months, which will be reduced to 15 months if he completes a rehabilitation course.
By:
Coneygree1971
When: 15 Jul 25 19:30

Jul 15, 2025 -- 7:11PM, Cider wrote:


A dangerous driver who caused a drunk and drug driving collision has been given a suspended sentence and has been disqualified from driving.Elliott Leonard-Diss, from Street End Lane, Heathfield, tested positive for cocaine and was more than twice over the legal limit of alcohol.On the morning of May 28, Sussex police were called to a three-car collision on the A22 Uckfield bypass.Leonard-Diss had attempted to undertake traffic by using a layby, but lost control and ended up in a bush.At Lewes Crown Court he was disqualified from driving for three years and was sentenced to a 14-month suspended prison sentence.plenty of examples


Oh, I totally agree with you; the CJS is far too lenient and as I said above I don't blame Murphy for his sentence. There are two prisons (one male, one female) within three miles of where I live and they want to build a third. I'm all for it!

One last thing, the problem I have with Murphy is his disregard for the safety of others and the fact that he has not learned from his previous mistakes and lied to us racing fans about him being sober. I just don't trust him and I think if he thinks he can get away with it this will happen again with perhaps far more serious consequences. I don't think we in racing should be making anything that looks like an excuse for his actions and I do think a custodial sentence in this case would have been fair. Surely, it can't be just 'business as usual'? Where is the deterrent? But I totally get what your saying about lenient sentencing.

Great chat!

By:
Cider
When: 15 Jul 25 19:34
people are entitled to separate their private life and professional life. that's my point. of course, there are occasions where activities in private can impact your job. but this isn't one of those. if people in racing want racing to deal with him then they'll need a positive test when  he's doing racing related activities (or caught avoiding the test)
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jul 25 19:38
Jealousy, my ass! Arrogance is total denial. I'd not want to be an alcoholic for any money in the world, Mr Murphy!

Mr Murphy has form; form usually controls the future. Self-pity is the norm for an alcoholic, and is a prelude to another alcoholic episode.

I hope no one here is at the receiving end of Mr Murphy's next predictable alcoholic episode. Thank heavens, I do not live anywhere near Newmarket.
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 19:43
Good old implausible Laugh
By:
N-east Correspondent
When: 15 Jul 25 19:46
says a lot for the other jockeys that they are being ridden to sleep by an "alcoholic" rider in the jockey championship
ok Buick has ridden significantly less but apart from him rest are about 20+ behind even at this relatively early stage
he has severe restrictions in place regarding testing etc so lets see what happens....
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 19:50
Don't be silly,NEC.
He has been found guilty by the BF Forum and must be presumed guilty before committing a further offenceLaugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 Jul 25 19:58
ridden to sleep,has ridden 2 winners in last  12 days including last race of n,market meeting and a 10,s on shot on a mon evening at windsor,hasnt been seen with a search light in any of the big races/meetings in last 12 days, while buick needed securicor to pick all his trophies up
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jul 25 20:00
"entitlement" is opened to interpretation. For instance, interpretation by a lay person is widely different to a legal person. The former is unqualified, and ignorant; the latter is qualified, and trained.

But, this time Mr Murphy chose to exercise his "entitlement" and drove on a public road when intoxicated which was a major transgression of public safety and the law governing drinking and driving.

The arrogance of Mr Murphy in "that" interview with Mr Chapman was clear to all. This is a clear sign of denial and irresponsibility. Another alcoholic incident in private or in public is merely a matter of time for Mr Murphy.

A positive breath test of alcohol after inflicting injury to another individual in public or a road user might be too late next time. The signs of another alcoholic episode by Mr Murphy is evidently clear to those who've experienced the negative consequences of drinking and driving.

BHA, you're next on Mr Murphy's list of blame.
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 20:04
Never let it be said that you are "judgemental,implausible because it would be an understatementLaugh
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Jul 25 20:04
Coneygree1971 15 Jul 25 19:12

We know all the facts and it is perfectly reasonable for any citizen to judge whether a punishment fits the crime, that is how the criminal justice system evolves; it tends to reflect changes in public attitudes. A good example of this is, funnily enough, drink driving.

Coneygree1971, do you think there will be owners now refusing to have Murphy ride for them with the stigma of him being a convicted drink driver?

He still seems to be riding for many yards, and the only horse I've heard that he was apparently jocked-off, and this was after the story of the crash first broke, was Cosmic Year at the Guineas meeting, though he got back on that one in Ireland. He also then rode the Lockinge winner and Jonquil in France for Juddmonte, but despite that Lockinge success, he's been overlooked for the Field Of Gold ride in Keane's absence.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 15 Jul 25 20:08
Henry Cecil knocked over 2 elderly pedestrians while more than twice over limit I seem to remember.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 15 Jul 25 20:09
In some circles and on this forum its not viewed as a serious crime which it bloody well is, its at least as despicable as drug dealing imo
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Jul 25 20:10
Luckily for him the BF Forum was not in existence then Cardinal
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 15:35

Jul 15, 2025 -- 12:06PM, MJK wrote:


Each time Murphy has been

By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 15:37
K • July 15, 2025 12:06 PM BST
Each time Murphy has been  in trouble I've gone back to a conversation I had in Leopardstown with two guys who happened to be from the same town Murphy is from. I put it to them that they must be delighted to see him (at the time) look like becoming a top jockey. No, it was the total opposite from them. As far as they were concerned he was nothing but trouble and the locals were glad to see the back of him. But he seemed a nice lad when interviewed I said. The exact answer I got to that was 'you'll see. It's all just an act'. Now everyone can change but it still plants seeds of doubt in the mind when you see his carry on.

Never added my comment.

Thanks for sharing MJK, you often hear stories like this and wonder, in this case - his past actions add meat to the stew.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Jul 25 16:50
I was astounded he accused some in the racing media of jealousy. Anyone in particular? I know the racing media have been very reticent even walking on eggshells about his collision with a tree. But, he came across as arrogant, and as "thick" as treacle in the interview with his mate Mr Chapman.
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:01
Is it on YouTube? I’ve not seen and how long is it on for?
By:
duffy
When: 16 Jul 25 17:03
Infamy, Infamy they've all got it InfamyLaughCrazy
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 16 Jul 25 17:05
Very stupid man.  His talent and Racing have made him a great deal of money and security so he risks the wrath of the hands that feed him by antagonising press and media.  Who carry such sway.
Has anyone ever taken on the press and won?  In any sport?
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:06
Drink and drugs induce paranoia I believe Laugh

No Loyal none that I can remember.
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:10
Report• Quote • Block User Coneygree1971 • July 15, 2025 6:31 PM BST
Jul 15, 2025 -- 12:55PM, RoyalAcademy wrote:

I'll give Murphy one thing: the pile-on is just another way to lynch someone without mercy. He has been found guilty, paid the price and been censured by the industry watchdog. Romans now baying for more blood in the Colosseum.

Murphy is a wrong 'un and the idea that we aren't allowed to criticise his criminality because he has been 'punished' or because its 'none of our business' is nonsense. Firstly, he hasn't been punished - he's got away with it. Now, its not his fault that our criminal justice system is so weak that you can drink drive, crash your car into a tree, refuse a breathalyser test and not get a custodial sentence but I think it explains why so many people are angry because his 'punishment' does NOT fit the crime. Secondly, it IS our business because he was drunk while driving on a PUBLIC ROAD and therefore endangering the safety not only of his passenger but every other motorist on that road and every cyclist and every pedestrian he flew past. He wasn't getting drunk at home in front of the telly, he was in a public space endangering those around him. It is absolutely our business.

Murphy is a your typical sneaky addict; he manipulates those around him

You’re right and said it how it is.
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:11
Throughout your initial post, lots has been said about him, but that was a fresh addition to things.
By:
uptheirons
When: 16 Jul 25 17:18
You cannot be getting much painting done DelaLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:20
Can I hand you over to Loyal?
By:
uptheirons
When: 16 Jul 25 17:21
You can do whatever you wish Dela
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:22
He’s had a lack of sun today in HonchoLand, yes it’s a place and I feel he’s missed the dust ups! Grin
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:23
Credit for where it’s due Up the at least you say what you think and express yourself fully! Unlike the snides. Respec mi brudda
By:
uptheirons
When: 16 Jul 25 17:26
I have deliberately not been  insulting morons and bullsahtters Dela and you are near the top of the list
By:
Delashay
When: 16 Jul 25 17:27
Eye and eye Jah Rastafari, blessings to the most HI
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