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Irish derby 16.10 curragh
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“Over-achieved”? “Inflated potentials of his stablemates”?
Winning two Derbys is a brilliant achievement, not over achievement. in my opinion of course. , and achieved on the racecourse not in some school of media and spectator thought. As for suggesting he may never race again I’d be interested to know why when he is as fit as he will ever be. Has Coolmore ever retired a three year old champion before the end of their 3yo career? |
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The runners in the Epsom and Curragh Derbies were much of a muchness. I do not think the overrans will do much good as a 3 or 4 yr old. As for Lambourn he'd only beat his adversaries on the days. But, a serious King George contender I'd not think so.
As for The ARC very unlikely as that will do his stallion fee considerable harm, I'd think. |
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It’s a rare Derby that throws up several top flight horses. I agree it might be a mistake to put him in the King George.
We’ll just have to wait and see. |
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It’s a rare Derby that throws up several top flight horses. I agree it might be a mistake to put him in the King George.
We’ll just have to wait and see. |
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Epsom Derby
1f 16.51 36mph 2f 13.12 33mph Lambourn rousted along to get to the lead (broke slow as he had in France) 3f 13.63 4f 13.62 5f 14.35 6f 13.81 Lambourn still presses on… 7f 13.08 it’s been a relentless gallop on the front end, as he leads the turn downhill… 8f 12.33 9f 12.18 10f 11.39 *Lazy Griff knows he’s not reaching him. 11f 12.30 12f 12.69 Comments except for * are from Hoiles. Anyone have the times from the Irish Derby to compare if his fractions were so evenly judged? Coming around the bend at Epsom he had such a big advantage as we’d seen from front runners. 10f clinched it. He was never as settled or within his comfort zone at the Curragh. I only saw the race once on BF small screen and can’t stand the wobbly cameras that they have in Ireland at that track!  |
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Impossible, winning the Arc will enhance his stud fee
As he will almost certainly be a jump stallion Hé won’t attract flat mares, only NH mares, and that Stallion market Is saturated, Coolmore have 16 or more On roster. Last time I looked all well under 10k, other than Walk in the park. Less jump mares these days. Tough game And they have Jan Brugal, Illinois, los Angelos, kyprios, maybe One or two others to find a job for, including Lambourn ?? The further they go the lower thé stud fee, that’s the new world Of bloodstock. All the big stallion fee’s are for flat stallions.I mile 2 maximum for a flat stallion these days? Take Economics, he’s a Mile and half horse,, but they’ve kept At 1 Mile two, he’s on his head most of the way in his races, to try make him a flat stallion? |
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Off course kyprios is not there’s, but they will probably
Stand him, and he will be popular, probably over 200 covers a year Be 5 years before we find out if he’s any good?? Nice work If you can get it? |
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You all have your own answer re targets but don’t see it - Lambourn needs to win a G1 10f race. If not this year, next year as AOB does with all his older horses.
Tried this year with Los Angles in the POW  |
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If anyone has times for the Irish Derby … to see if he ever was setting as perfect fractions as at Epsom.
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Lambourn needs to go up in trip, a mile 1/4 G1, where??
If Sundays race was 1 1/4, thé becket horse might of beat him, And he’s a Group 3 horse?? He’s only run against 3yo, thé older Horses will quicken past him?? Looks a poor classic colt crop This year?? We’ll see later in season, when they take on older horse? |
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If Blue Stocking can win an Arc!
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The theme is Never say Never because even Prescott won one!
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Couldn’t back any of the 3yo’s In the Eclipse on Saturday?
The guineas winner Is 20s  Any good race readers on here, fancy any of the 3yos On Sat ?? |
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Becket is running Sir over the wring trip then!
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Let us know where i said something untoward about LAMBOURN’s run the Irish Derby?
Oh and put up your fancy for the Eclipse for us all to see  |
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ponchoslament • July 2, 2025 6:21 PM BST
Haven’t done the race, but I have given you 6 already Thanks for the 6! |
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Stanhope Gardens to upset the apple cart and run second to Ombudsman. Was surely never going to stay the Derby 12f. This 10 might see him doing a lot better.
He’s a neck behind Pantile Warrior who’s a neck behind Serious Contender who’s a length behind the nighty Merchant, class 2 handicapper. |
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Hmmm maybe, at least you put one up, 20s, He’s a length behind Tennessee stud
Who was 7 behind Delaquox?? Imagine Moore will ride dela? Best chance of the 3yo’s ? |
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What’s wrong with the top one, if it gets any bigger than 14s?
Beat ombudsman, nearly 2 lens, getting 3, first run for oms I know. Looked good at ascot but they went suicidal pace in thst And all stopped.tgsts really his only run?? Wait for decs and draw See what’s likely to lead, hopefully alaquam? Does the jolly need end to end gallop?? 5/4 hmmmm |
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Confirmed runners and riders for the Coral-Eclipse at Sandown on Saturday with six going to post.
Delashay • July 2, 2025 6:27 PM BST ponchoslament • July 2, 2025 6:21 PM BST Haven’t done the race, but I have given you 6 already Outstanding!  Can you pick the lotto numbers next! |
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Sunday, July 13, 2025 at ParisLongchamp: Trinity College towards the Grand Prix de Paris (Gr. I)
Trinity College, who finished fourth in the Prix du Jockey Club, will return to France on Sunday, July 13, 2025 to compete in the Paris Grand Prix. Aidan O'Brien has confirmed that Trinity College, who came fourth in the Prix du Jockey-Club and recently won the Hampton Court Stakes, Group III, held at Royal Ascot, will be sent to the Grand Prix de Paris. The son of Dubawi and Hermosa had been supplemented on Monday for the Deutsches Derby, but Aidan O'Brien explains: “He had received a free supplement for the Deutsches Derby thanks to his fourth place in the French Derby. But we decided to direct him rather towards the Grand Prix de Paris, because this commitment allows him to have one more week of recovery and preparation since his last outing at Royal Ascot. |
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Delashay • June 29, 2025 5:06 PM BST
That is one tough horse and you seriously have to wonder why they ran it? Did he shock them a little today? On that run he’d of been in the top 3 for the GPDP on July 13th. Delashay • June 29, 2025 5:07 PM BST And unless we believe that the LION is the number 1 still then the gate is open to Trinity Collage. Have to laugh Lion In Winter Suppd for the Prix Jean Prat over 7f! The starting grid for the Prix Jean Prat but The Lion In Winter (Aidan O'Brien) could well be supplemented on Thursday. [:laugh: Derby Horse! |
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Delashay • July 2, 2025 6:27 PM BST
ponchoslament • July 2, 2025 6:21 PM BST Haven’t done the race, but I have given you 6 already Thanks for the 6! Laugh |
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Looking back ….
ponchoslament • July 2, 2025 6:50 PM BST Hmmm maybe, at least you put one up, 20s, He’s a length behind Tennessee stud Who was 7 behind Delaquox?? Imagine Moore will ride dela? Best chance of the 3yo’s ? And to what you’ve just posted it seems that you had part done the race or made your fancies! ;) |
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Ditto
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Thanks for the 6! And picking the Fav the day before!
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Whilst giving a hint that you like Delacroix! Or aren’t sure!
Enjoy fishing for opinions! |
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The shortie or possibly Ruling Court (to atone).
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We all get things wrong from time to time. No shame in it.
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Oh you stupid boy, is there anyone home I wonder.
I clearly posted couldn’t have tge 3yo before decs came tru with Anmatt and aqlaam and one other. After decs posted if I had a free 10k Bet back ombudsman, 100 quid free bet Delacroix Couldn’t back thé French or have the other 3yo. 1,2, French horse beat As were other 3yo, also posted before decs thst Moore would ride dela Both 7s at the time, ok, now please don’t send 25 reply’s, thank you |
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For delahash thst
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Opinions before the race should be encouraged.
Keep going Poncho. |
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Thanks for the block button we all can read that you said the 3 year olds were shat!
Jul 2, 2025 -- 5:53PM, ponchoslament wrote: Couldn’t back any of the 3yo’s In the Eclipse on Saturday?The guineas winner Is 20sAny good race readers on here, fancy any of the 3yosOn Sat ?? I’ve seen enough! |
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And it’s clear that you’re someone else with a gripe against me and Honcho so best get another card out and create another bogus account!
Hopefully writing about races from the fake account gives you a bit of comfort to join the race discussions, where we’re all proven to be right and wrong over the season. Enjoy your eggs sunshine! No need for sun cream when wearing on your boat race but also a good disguise! |
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ponchoslament • July 5, 2025 7:28 PM BST
Oh you stupid boy, is there anyone home I wonder. I clearly posted couldn’t have tge 3yo before decs came tru with Anmatt and aqlaam You were hopeful that these soft ground types were going to turn up on good to firm! |
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Well done poncho. Always good to see that a poster can take it as well as dish it out.
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Hé does my Gulliver in, I don’t want to be rude, or get into
Crass name calling, but it’s like he has his own set of alternative facts |
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I actually liked your éntertaining way and solid self confidence in it! It’s better to have an opinion than be getting splinters in the ‘arris like our good leader! Can’t wait for the minging ginger nut, “I was born on a council estate.” To give hers! |