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Don't want to look.
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Hands out to catch the rapidly falling dagger by the blade. Technical analysis doesn't take into account actions by mad men. Hope no one on here is anticipating retiring soon. Apparently the trains from London Victoria to Eastbourne for Beachy Head are full
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Sold ALL my entaain shares a few months ago feels like backing a winner Barrow boy I should of took your advice never try to catch a falling knife
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AA toss up today a day at Redcar or a day in the garden. The lawnmower won.
Hope you are well. Ronnie |
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It's going great.
For the last few months there has been a risk free position option, where cash yields were comfortably topping inflation. At a time when the risk in equities was massive, with very little scope for upside, with only headwinds on the short/medium term. |
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Recession="when everyone stops spending their money"
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April 7, 2025 12:13
Brits with gardens  'stop mowing lawns' till September ends amid 'national butterfly crisis ...  Crazy Town  |
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Starmer's job tax is far more damaging, domestically. Of course the global equities shake up is a gift to him.
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Strange that as the ftse was rising until orange baby made is moronic announcement.
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which ftse index are you referencing?
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FTSE 100 HTH
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ftse 100 is a pseudo global fund, the domestic economy and legislation has limited impact on it.
hth |
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I see, walks away slowly and carefully.
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It's fair enough :). The 250 is considered to be more reflective, but even that is significantly impacted by global trade. Where Labour's changes really hurt is sole traders and SME's, not the big public entities. Up to 6 million of them.
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FTSE (100) down 2%+
S&P500 in the States floating around the same price it opened. Maybe the worst is over.... ...for now. It seems with Trumpy's administration we are lurching from one cataclysmic announcement to the next. Each one causing the markets to turn to their brown trousers. So we may not be out of the woods yet. There are just too many intangibles at the moment to know wether this is just a short term correction or wether this is going to be the norm for a year or so. |
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BBC NEWS " Trump threatens China with ADDITIONAL 50% TARIFF "
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Trump " China withdraw the 34 % tariff or we add 50% on 9/4/25 "
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the boy is a total clown.....he is a bankrupt 6 times over, and is totally irrational....thing is his base of support are skint and have always been skint so are right behind him.
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Asia goes down before the US. They will all be unemployed and possibly starving.
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i dont think so...lol...China is way ahead of most of the world......you need to keep up with what is going on...their cities are simply incredible....the orange moron will eventually have to back down......
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ive just switched on usa news...trump doesnt know how global trade works....He is insane as well as daft as a brush...He wants a zero trade deficit with every country in the world......"idiot" does not even begin to explain this man.
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Cities ? LOL. Reserve currency and NATO a bit more important. Western countries won't be backing China over US even if you would like them to.
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If I were Trump I would ease off on the Chinese. They definitely have the ammunition to cause the US major problems.
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Push the big red button and do us all a favour Don.
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lol it’s proper gambling this game, shares, I never sell on a downturn because it will suddenly spike again and unless your on shares every minute of the day you will miss it, I sold quite a few a few months ago to have cash available to buy bitcoin again but I missed it, but that’s just a bit of luck and I’m going to go in big shortly, entain is a small target as it’s a crazy price £500 and went up a whole £2.00 today after losing a few hundred lol, micro strategy shares bitcoin are holding up better but still down in this market but they have previously flown I have made great profits previously, the gamble now is when to get in before the spike up, china seems the key and all the other countries want to talk, but this could be that trump wants bitcoin to prosper as it’s held quite well this latest trump crash, but again we are in unknown territory, this is a new downturn like no other, done by one man and I still think he is doing right putting America first, just wish starmer would put us first, good luck if high stakes pressure gambling is your game as ive said before, if your a good gambler youl be used to losing and downturns and not to to panic and don’t keep looking at the screens when on a downturn, be ready be brave and pray
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It is clear the USA has been receiving a raw deal in tariffs from the rest of the world; US goods have higher tariffs imposed on them. If more and people in the world will to boycott consumer products eg electrical/electronic, clothes/shoes/etc, and motor/heavy industrial machinery from China then this tariff war will cease very soon.
I believe this tariff war is to manage/stifle the ever-increasing economic might of China. Economic might = military supremacy = blatant bullying by china eg S China Sea, Taiwan, etc. |
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gross profit on an iPhone sold in the US has gone from 32% to 42% in 5 years
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Excellent write up from Know-All.
I like the Trump/bitcoin angle. Another variable to introduce into this tangled web.. |
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"I believe this tariff war is to manage/stifle the ever-increasing economic might of China. Economic might = military supremacy = blatant bullying by china eg S China Sea, Taiwan, etc". Correct. The real reason is to destroy China. Them ruling the world is not on.
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China vows to 'fight to the end'. Can you imagine the run on pearls if Trump said that.
The wilful ignorance of people is astonishing, even in 2025 when they believe that the actual long term solution is for America to consume everything using printed money and debt (often paper owned by their enemies), produced by 'developing countries' under slave labour conditions and state sponsorship. |
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if their was one person in the world doing ok out of a stockmarkets crash you new it wouldn't be buffet,soreos etc doing ok ,we all new itt would be CIDER from the Betfair forum
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america has 4 x the size population of Vietnam ,Vietnam average wage is about $4,000 a yr,and these FOOKING loonies in the Whitehouse want a level trade deficit with Vietnam, THEIR ALL FOOOKING BARKING
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Cider • March 8, 2025 9:30 PM GMT
the conventional view is don't try to time the market, for most people I'd say it's the correct advice. but, it is possible to cut out all the noise, stand back and take a dispassionate view. the risk free rate remains above inflation, everywhere you look there's risks in the short term, with little scope to gain. 3 headwinds that exist right now. huge indebtedness of western economies (ergo cost of gvnt borrowing), geo politics and the ai bubble. add into the mix, hyper overvaluation of US equities. it's a question of when, not if in my view. where many people lose out when 'timing' the market is that they have no patience. they move to lower risk options, see equities hitting new peaks and go back in at a higher price. I've been purchasing high yielding ITs for almost two years now, in that time the asset value has been flat or even declining in some cases. but I am confident that they are strong ling term plays. now I've moved to a predominately risk free position, I will sit it out until the time is right to move my chips. I'm looking for 30-40% discounts, but that judgment can only be confidently made when the circumstances have evolved. |
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Wow
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You're right, I'm doing ok 1sty, not sure about others. fwiw I bought some discounted equities yesterday, but still predominately cash position.
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Absolutely horrendous. I am all in the stock market with all my savings and contributory pensions. I have lost £80k in 2 weeks. Makes me sick in the stomach.
Everything i have said in support of trump in the past can be scratched. He is a financially illiterate bully. My £868 2025 horse racing profit doesnt scratch the surface in comparison |
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I always think how strange I can lose £100 on horses during the day and be mad with myself, I can lose a few k on stock market on a day and it doesn't really bother me. I suppose I know at my advanced age that stock markets go up and down for reasons that have nothing to do with me but horse racing losses are down to me.
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I suppose one difference is that some stock trading can he 'held' until it returns back up, and you don't lose - can't do that when you've just sp'nked 100 quid on a horse that fell etc.
But if you are a short term day (or shorter) trader, and taking profit and losses, then it's basically the same as betting on a horse race! |
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Unless you're changing your position, looking at daily movements in isolation is madness. But of course, the stock market is click bait, Trump is clickbait so it will flood the narrative.
This is before today's bounce, and a tiny bit down over the last year, but still +60% over 5. We've been on the biggest bull in history, so personally I feel we'll see further drawdown. None of the short term risks I alluded to have dissipated.  |