Inothewayurthinkin Grand National

Obvious why the post are so positive. It survives and so do the plethora of "journalists" who get there income on the back of bookmaker advertising. Promoting a 3/1 fav for the National(Ante Post all in run or not) that is @ best 50/50 to run makes a lovely field book for the paymasters.Jp has a handfull of other candidates with a chance as does Cromwell.Theres many big prizes still to be won with Inow the way... not including the national., and i assume the handbrake now its been released will be done so for the future.

I'd agreee jimnast, I would say the grand national was the original plan, then he got that close to Gallopin de Champs at Leopardstown, when he wasn't fully tuned / protecting his mark as the Grand National was the plan. I would guess Keith got off and said he should be going for the gold cup.

They would obviously have wanted to see he was spot on before supplementing and no injuries so left it until so late.

Given he has done what he has now though he looks an absolute monster. GDC beat Gentlemans Game (160) by 12 lengths, Monty's Star also 160 rated 1 and a quarter length back then The Real Whacker (159) 20L off. It doesn't look absolutely like GDC has not run to form and had a shocker like some pundits were seeming to suggest, though the ground would probably not have been in his favour. The horse to me that's not run its race / not stayed is Banbridge.

I would say Mark Walsh gave the horse a lovely ride and had the benefit of just aiming at beating GDC, where as Paul Townend was in the mindset of he would win if he stayed up and probably not positioned to best suit GDC. Yes GDC never pinged the fences but in his 4 races prior he had been beaten twice so its not like he has conquered all before him.

Very nice position for JP as if they stay sound looks like he has very good Gold Cup and Ryanair winners.

Next season,both Gold Cup & G.National?.If the gap between the races
is big enough.

This has been discussed elsewhere.

The logic is that next year Inothewayurthinkin and Fact To File try to double up in the races they won so well this year. 

Increasingly, it looks as if the media are trying to bully the horse into the National, in some cases probably because they have backed it for the National, and not the Gold Cup. You would think they own the horse.   

They don't half talk some garbage. Luck this morning saying Fact To File 'could have gone round again'. No he couldn't, that's just nonsense talk. Those who wrongly pushed him down the Gold Cup should hang their heads rather than try and encourage the same mistake. There is nothing wrong with being a top class horse at the intermediate trip. It should be pretty obvious that JP already has the horse to beat in the Gold Cup who has proven that the trip is a plus.

The chance of this running here is as weak as selling Lossiemouth for the Champion Hurdle with Constitution Hill, State Man and Brighterdaysahead present. The triumph in the Gold cup is another major reason he's very unlikely this way bound; the Gold Cup run was a fact-finder where he'd go or his next probable target.

And, it is not in the Grand National, I'm almost certain.

Only if JP wants the historical legacy. Even multiple GC winners are nothing new, but the horse would seal his legacy in the sport to do the big double in the same season. Pretty sure if it's left up to Cromwell it will be skipped.

JP has publicly stated any decision would be more than a week later. This is a polite way of telling the press please leave us alone and no more question prior to this period. I'd construed this as negatively and as definitively to a no to a run. Also, it's less than 3 weeks to the National, and over 8f more.

Alverton is another who went to aintree after winning the gold cup

JP doesn't need to be tempted. He has won the race before, doesn't need the money, and has many other entries. Far harder to get a Gold Cup horse than a Grand National one, and he lost his previous Gold Cup winner. I think the telling comment was 'he will do what's best for the horse'. You would be knocked over with that 11/8. It's massive odds on that he won't run.

It's the mark that is obviously the one off. Highly unlikely to get an impressive gold cup winner in off such a lenient mark every again. The appeal isn't just getting a GC winner to run in the national same season, but one that looks so suited to it and is absolutely thrown in.

Circa 20lb well in for a £million race that also looks a perfect set up.

If you don't take to the fences and the race then it doesn't matter what weight you have got. His weakness is still his jumping. They have had to work really hard on that. Why would you want to risk jeopardising the progress they have made?

The other thing worth mentioning is that JP has just lost one of his better horses last week.

A no brainer if he's fit and well, the National fences are upturned dandy brushes these days. But why was the vet looking at his legs in the winners enclosure when he booted her out of the way? Think they should do the weights for the National after Cheltenham rather than before.

JPM knows all the stats and is aiming to win the four remaining races at the festival.

Having the Gold Cup and National winner in the same year will be tempting, might not get another chance at it.

JP has Iroko, I AM Maximus, Meetingofthewaters, Limerick Lace, Capodanno and Chantry House even without the Gold Cup winner.

i think it will run and why not - just go for it- 7 on here and not drifting

i was intending betting it to win £10,000 geoff..was devvo when they supplemented it.

Agree re his jumping , though was very good amongst horses in Gold Cup . Recovery would be the main factor influencing the decision followed by the inexperience factor . From a laying perspective hope it runs , but not optimistic .

if they do declare you'll have a steak dinner if it is 2-1 or 5/2