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By:
Cider
When: 14 Mar 25 15:34
He just hasn't found today. If he lacked boot at the trip he would not have got to the last still in hand when everything else was fully off it. Horses are not metronomic, but my initial point was about the ir which was more than understandable. There was no reason to think he wouldn't find for maximum pressure.

The Triumph does tend to suit staying types, generally.
By:
howard
When: 14 Mar 25 15:41
You can always get beat by better horses. The trip is on the sharp side for him but still has the class at it to lead a decent field although the Triumph is not as strong as it used to be. I see absolutely nothing to suggest he hasn't run his race on today's ground / opposition so if you think something else is going on we disagree.
By:
sageform
When: 14 Mar 25 16:07
agree with the last post howard but I would add that the second and third chased the early leader and didn't quite get home with EID running out of petrol earlier than Lulamba. Lady Vega Allen ran very well getting the 7lb allowance and the others were always just out of their comfort zone to me.
By:
howard
When: 14 Mar 25 16:19
Yeah the 2nd has run a big race. I think he was fav for this race before he ran over here.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Mar 25 16:35
The three at the sharp end, including the free running front runner have finished 2nd 3rd and 4th. The 5th raced up there. They didn't go too quick. The winner was of course a wild card.
By:
acey deucy
When: 14 Mar 25 16:47
I told you so.Cool
By:
MJK
When: 14 Mar 25 17:25
STD seemed totally shocked he lost that. Obviously thought it was a cert.
By:
sageform
When: 14 Mar 25 17:39
Nothing can possibly be a cert in a race with hardly any form lines between the fancied ones never mind with others that have never jumped a hurdle before! Even when the same horses meet 4 or 5 times, the result can be different as the Gold Cup showed.
By:
acey deucy
When: 14 Mar 25 17:53
Brain deed Punters staemin in at short odds......Deserve all they get.Plain
By:
impossible123
When: 14 Mar 25 17:57
Lulamba will beat him again given the same condition and distance. But, the winner...what can I say? A debutant and won like a good thing.
By:
sageform
When: 14 Mar 25 18:04
The shortest price I have bet on all week and well beaten. Still level on the day with a couple at smaller meetings. Two bets, two third places at Cheltenham today but win only.
By:
Cash Is King
When: 14 Mar 25 23:08
Unlucky to lose that race. Blame the jockey. Needed to be more patient. The Irish conditionals having their first ride at the Festival manage to keep their heads but seasoned professionals like STD often lose theirs when it matters most.
By:
acey deucy
When: 14 Mar 25 23:56
By:
acey deucy
When: 14 Mar 25 23:57
5-4 ffs......The World has gone mad.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Mar 25 00:21
I've just come across this, fair to say he wanted it badly!

https://x.com/itvracing/status/1900553062453838107
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Mar 25 09:55
I hope most can recover from the results of Cheltenham 2025. For some this will be a Cheltenham to remember eg Michael O'Sullivan, Bob Olinger, Marine Nightingale, the bookies bashing bets, etc. However, for me this is one to forget except Fact To File; the likes of Constitution Hill, Galopin Des Champs, Jonbon, Ballyburn, Lulamba and East India Docks have scuppered all my antepost bets.

I hope this year's Classic results will not mirror that of Cheltenham 2025. Otherwise, total capitulation and abstention is likely.
By:
slickster
When: 15 Mar 25 10:26
Poniros was the 6-1 favourite for the Cambridgeshire. Finished 23rd.
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Mar 25 10:37
He was rated slightly higher on the flat than the fav slickster, take the hurdles out and the gulf in betting would not have been as it was, the fact he could jump might have also made a difference had punters known.
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 Mar 25 11:26
makes you wonder if flat trainers could be arsed 3 months before chelt,how many triumph winners could be out there, no doubt in 4 to 6  weeks time Mullins could have another dozen himself at home who could beat this winner
By:
sageform
When: 15 Mar 25 11:48
Mullins must be a very good delegator. He paused when asked how much schooling Poniros had had and he was vague or guessing. Fair enough when you have 300 horses and some have yet to run but his recollection of the best ones is very good. I guess he gets interviewed so many times that he can't always be bothered to give an accurate answer.
By:
howard
When: 15 Mar 25 11:56
he clearly didn't tell Bloom to lump on
By:
sageform
When: 15 Mar 25 12:14
The owners must all be patient and willing to spend. Willie said that he likes to run plenty in the Triumph for experience and didn't expect any of them to win! A very expensive way to give horses experience!
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Mar 25 18:46
Mr Bloom had Bunting last year. He was a talking-horse, and cost quite a lot of money too. This time his winner was under-the-radar and well camouflaged in Mr Mullins's battalion.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 09 May 25 15:11
Ttt
By:
howard
When: 09 May 25 15:18
sageform14 Mar 25 14:46Joined: 15 Jun 01 | Topic/replies: 29,341 | Blogger: sageform's blog
Because he didn't stay AT THAT PACE.

howard
howard14 Mar 25 14:54Joined: 09 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 15,046 | Blogger: howard's blog
isn't there an old saying you get a stayer beat taking him  out of his comfort zone ?   The bottom line is he's not a top notcher at 2m. More flights and further will suit him.
By:
Cider
When: 09 May 25 16:45
Nonsense I'm afraid. He was pulling away after the last hurdle, and inexplicably fell in a hole the last 75 yrds or so. One that definitely got away, it happens. They turned the CC into a 4f sprint, which he won comfortably.
By:
acey deucy
When: 18 Jun 25 00:02
Wink
By:
uptheirons
When: 18 Jun 25 11:39
A man whose word is worthless is himself worthless  Acey
By:
acey deucy
When: 18 Jun 25 11:41
Laugh
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 18 Jun 25 13:16
LOL.  -   He’ s now lecturing in philosophy!

Oh grasshopper, when you can walk on wice papah and not crush you will have become a man!
By:
uptheirons
When: 18 Jun 25 13:52
Keeping your word is not a difficult thing to do if you have integrity and has nothing to do with philosophy Honco.
IHTH
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 18 Jun 25 14:51
Once again we all thank you for your wondrous humility in lecturing us all so well, on subjects of which we know nothing about.
By:
uptheirons
When: 18 Jun 25 15:30
You seem a well balanced individual Honcho.
You have a chip on both shoulders
By:
acey deucy
When: 28 Jun 25 15:23
Wink
By:
acey deucy
When: 28 Jun 25 15:25
Were you on Freddie? LaughLaugh
By:
PearlJames
When: 28 Jun 25 15:26
James Doyle responsible for that performance. Horse ran a cracker. Unfortunately James isn't very bright. I'm sure the Gredleys will jock him off next time. It's what they're good at
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 28 Jun 25 15:26
Were u riding it there
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jun 25 15:26
Flying home virtually on the bridle there Grin

Obviously had a terrible trip, what a horse he is Love
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 28 Jun 25 15:26
Isn't very bright says pearl
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 28 Jun 25 15:27
Another jock sacked
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