Ballyburn V Sir Gino Kempton...

Just happy that we have this confrontation.

Ballyburn to blast out and take the stuffing out of Sir Gino

Cheltenham win was brilliant

even money geoff

Brilliant.

Wow

Are 5 year olds allowed to run in the Champion Chase?

impressive

mullins your boy took a hellava beating

My goodness. Sir Gino ran like Altior. A future champion surely.

Yes they can Andriy.

Lovely performance.

I would run him in that 100%

he's probably the nearest to CH over hurdles as well.

Master Minded,might've been 5.

Maybe that gallop against Constitution Hill was a true picture of how good they currently are.

Very impressive

Think he was 6, it pretty sure it was his 5/6 season; won't happen with NH but was just a thought.

very impressive indeed, made Ballyburn look v.ordinary though not sure Mullins horses are 100% at all
but that shouldnt take away from Sir Gino's performance today

Nichols is spending fortunes filling stables full of horses like ruhbard ,the ? his owners must be asking themselves is why ?.all going to be chasers but stones behind the best chasers

They will avoid each other at the festival and both will win their reepective races imo.

Think the gallop they had was no fluke and shows Constitution Hill has declined. He is too short for the Champion Hurdle imo.

Any quote on Champion Chase ?

What would Sir Gino have done in The Triumph if he'd shown up? That was one hell of a run from a novice.

Now we know why Ballyburn drifted for both Cheltenham races in the market. He is actually a staying hurdler in the making.

I wondered why Mullins was running him at Kempton over 2 miles. I guess connections can forget any pretentions of 2 miles over fences now. In fact he doesn’t really jump them that well for any trip imo. Hurdles for him surely

evens for arkle

"Think the gallop they had was no fluke and shows Constitution Hill has declined. He is too short for the Champion Hurdle imo".    Do you make money punting Eric ?

ballyburn for stayers

Evens for the Arkle Burn out to 10s

Sir Gino is 11/10 for The Arkle and 20/1 for the Champion Hurdle. 11/10 is not a price to take in case Constitution Hill is a no show in the Champion Hurdle.

It seems Cheltenham is almost all sorted just the Gold Cup to sort out. Even this is a 2-horse race it seems eg Galopin Desc Champs and Fact To File.

Impossible if you said the sun was going to shine most would buy an umbrella e.g Both your stonking value bets stuffed!!

4yo winning over fences - quite rare

Henderson said: "The way he did it was frightening, to be honest. He learned over the first couple of fences and then just went. You couldn't see a cleaner performance than that.

"It's nice Nico thinks he's a superstar, but he's got a long way to go still. He's done nothing wrong in his whole life and he's always been a very talented horse with so much scope. Now we've seen what he's done over fences, he certainly can't go back over hurdles and it's pretty obvious where we're going now."

Despite his seven-and-a-half length defeat, Ballyburn was trimmed by Betfair Sportsbook to 3-1 (from 4) for the Brown Advisory Novices' Chase over three miles in March.

Arkle -  Evens Sir Gino, 4 Majborough, 8 Ballyburn, Inthepocket, 12 L'Eau Du Sud, Firefox, Ile Atlantique, 20 bar

A hugely impressive performance that was absolutely joyous to watch.

I got 5/1 for The Arkle with Fact To File (5/2) and Lake victoria (11/4) treble. I think it was before Constitution Hill was a certainty to run for the X'mas Hurdle.

did ewe obtain an E reckshun slippy?

I made £5k profit at last years Festival. And you?

howard
howard 27 Dec 24 14:10 Joined: 09 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 14,373 | Blogger: howard's blog
"Think the gallop they had was no fluke and shows Constitution Hill has declined. He is too short for the Champion Hurdle imo".    Do you make money punting Eric

wd eric..enni proof or jussed the normal forum fantasising?

acey deucy24 Dec 24 12:30Joined: 29 Sep 02 | Topic/replies: 31,693 | Blogger: acey deucy's blog
I think we are going to see something special whatever Won Wins...Rubaud has zero chance sage

Good to see Mullins get his arse kicked....Maybe times are a changing.

You could do with a kick up the arrse! fooking piece shyte.

The last 4yo to impress me over fences was Voy por Ustedes. He won the Arkle at 5 and the Champion Chase at 6. If Sir Gino stays sound (a big if in racing) he should do the same.

Both Mullins horses beaten by better horses on the day and over the trip and won't ever overturn either results at Cheltenham,Ballyburn in particular had no business running there today over a sharpish 2 miles.

All things considered Sir Gino looks out of the very top drawer.

wd punchy...big lay im assuming?

A lovely performance from Sir Gino. It was a shame seeing Ballyburn outclassed. He’s better than that but was in the wrong race. Connections had said beforehand they were short of options.

wd punchy...big lay im assuming?

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Nah Rico,very seldom lay anything,horses have a habit of improving a couple of stone when I do.

Just my observations on the race.

The make up of the race didn't lend itself to laying Bally at all. Had effectively one horse running for you, predominately priced on stable reputation. Gino had to back up what they were shouting, and he did. However, relying on what a yard a saying about a horse on those percentages is a sub optimal long term betting strategy.

Very impressive Sir Gino. Going off henderson, never understood people's irritation but comes naturally to me now.

Frogger , what's your irritation with Hendo ?
Nice man, top trainer . Nurtures his horses nad gets them to the racecourse for many years.
Does what it says on the tin surely ?

I suspect the irritation comes from NH continually defying his detractors by producing the goods when it matters and when he is satisfied that he has done his job to the best of his ability. Several of the usual suspects on here continually slate trainers and jockeys and NH and Nico get more than their fair share.

They should ask themselves why they are stuck in front of a computer whilst the ones they slate are continuing successful careers, might be something to do with them being good at what they do whilst the detractors are simply failures. From SYT winning 3 CH's to the present day NH has few peers in getting his horses right when it counts if it is possible, Binocular, Altior, Sprinter to name just a few.

former top 10 all time ch hurdler wins Xmas hurdle and the other wins a novice chase
woa,woa take a pull big fella,
name the last time the briliant hendo was even competitive in a 3 mile grade one chase, hurdle ?
he,s found/has about half a dozen chelt prospects in last few yrs  in a yard of 200+ horses

1st TP,not possible to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear and times changed with the Irish having the best of what has been around, absolutely nothing to do with the trainers ability!!

agreed but you can/could say that about any of another 50 trainers

CagliariG 27 May 24 19:27
We have laid it to lose £155 K min sparrow and hope for more!!!

here we have a forumite who posts absolute fantasy island stuff then wants to be taken seriously ..

only in the mugfair forum.

for what ever reason maybe training fees of the chaff subsidising the cost of the wheat,but I,d gamble hendo has never had so many low rated horses /handicappers in his yard.he has lots of midweek handicappers at the gaffs midweek going off at double figure odds, he never used to

Biggest fantasist the Forum has ever known reduced to trolling serious threads with clueless comments, already proven as an after time guru on a par with StewB and like him has never produced a single honest proof of anything and 100 % losing to me over many years.

Well done Shafter reading a race where the mare was flat out all the way and saying she travelled comfortably, little wonder you have done your dough without a time advantage, clueless about the sport. LOL

CagliariG Dec 24 10:10 
Im the Biggest fantasist the Forum has ever known reduced to trolling serious threads with clueless comments.

well done for honesty.

Meltdown again Shafter, give up the stalking and I won't even mention your idiocy and lack of knowledge again?

a lifetime of loosing and guessing and lying has ewe confirmed as a forum eejit tobymugs...everyone in the forum nahs ewe are a grade A fantasist.

Shame the results and proofs over the years mark you as an envious cretin though shafter, must be due to revert to your usual 10 year old schoolboy language now you are taking a battering? Easy to just accept the inevitable, stop the trolling and try and learn something from those of us who have a clue!! hth

Dec 28, 2024 -- 9:39AM, CagliariG wrote:

I suspect the irritation comes from NH continually defying his detractors by producing the goods when it matters and when he is satisfied that he has done his job to the best of his ability. Several of the usual suspects on here continually slate trainers and jockeys and NH and Nico get more than their fair share.They should ask themselves why they are stuck in front of a computer whilst the ones they slate are continuing successful careers, might be something to do with them being good at what they do whilst the detractors are simply failures. From SYT winning 3 CH's to the present day NH has few peers in getting his horses right when it counts if it is possible, Binocular, Altior, Sprinter to name just a few.

Not at all, favourite trainer bar none previously. Jeriko Du Reponet first run this year really really stank of something, then very aftertime hints that SG/CH gallop was not at level weights, now he's schooling his classy novice in the dark with 3 people present before Arkle price collapses while the yard were asleep. He has himself in a mess with disclosure of his top horses - can't see when and why this became so, maybe SS episode don't know

tobymugs.

put a fred up...

WHO IS BIGGEST FORUM FANTASIST...

CAGLIARIG OR RICO.

i await.

As predicted shafter!!

put the fred up..loser leaves the forum for good?

Dec 28, 2024 -- 8:17AM, oneten wrote:

Frogger , what's your irritation with Hendo ? Nice man, top trainer . Nurtures his horses nad gets them to the racecourse for many years. Does what it says on the tin surely ?

seeing as this lad can jump in the dark will not be withdrawing for any heavy, frost, or low sun then? I'm being facetious but hope you see what I mean? He is in a mess with his disclosures, therefore makes punting harder

hendo is pretty transparent for punters on raceday, bet late and follow the money,there's no shame in hendo,s yard and the difference between betting patterns on the wanted/day of race horses and todays not the day ,is stark/massive imo

of course you cant win them all and you,d have missed out on a huge price for his novice on boxing day following a massive drift but you,d come out on top over a season following the betting around hendo,s horses

Dec 28, 2024 -- 11:23AM, 1st time poster wrote:

of course you cant win them all and you,d have missed out on a huge price for his novice on boxing day following a massive drift but you,d come out on top over a season following the betting around hendo,s horses

didn't bet - don't like one of the trainers all of a sudden! well done if you did was impressive

"I made £5k profit at last years Festival".   That's rather selective Eric.  How about lifetime profit on here ? ( like me )

btw I don't touch chase races.   Just flat/hurdles.

Bo Zenith, that's another dodgy henderson hurdler run I might have added so thank you howard! Perhaps for the schweppes but perhaps maybe don't trust the trainer - see what I mean and gl

Ballyburn made to look very ordinary i never thought i would see that.

Another big Henderson drifter coming up in 12.37

100/30 >>>>> 19.00 Akimos let's see how it runs

wide most of the way, never put in race by Nico ... nice intro

was paper favourite once upon a time I'm sure I saw, all the best now

I havent got 42 years of cashed in betting slips on me but do have a couple of statements for phone bet wins antepost.

Who cares we are all enthusiasts £5k isnt that big a win anyway is it.


howard 28 Dec 24 12:12 Joined: 09 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 14,383 | Blogger: howard's blog
"I made £5k profit at last years Festival".   That's rather selective Eric.  How about lifetime profit on here ? ( like me )

you have made the fantasy list eric..wd for that.

Anyway i hope you are on for a 6 figure win antepost this year like me

I will be able to prove it as well when it comes in so wind your necks in lol

"Who cares we are all enthusiasts"    so you bet big but do you win long term ?

Prove what you already claimed eric mup? You cant even remember what you wrote on the betting slip FFS as Quixall would say!!

..."no fluke and shows Constitution Hill has declined".   Anyone that says that is fecking clueless and highly unlikely to be a successful punter imo.

1.01 eric cannot even remember it was Willies who laid his £1K double of which the first leg won @ 7/2? Let him reply and read his betting slip before knocking him tbf!!

CagliariG 28 Dec 24 15:04 
Prove what you already claimed eric mup?

fckn pmsl..ironic coming from the forums biggest liar...

#WAC

Proved you wrong 100% every time Shafter, so please explain? Anything like 1.01 looking lovely for disqaul but made £200?

Maybe Baaeed or Sharona et al?

Have you won today Shafter any proof? For me nothing big tbf £70 odd on the compy nap, 2 X £50 on the Skelton one @ 13/4 with 365 @ 3/1 Lads, £42 on Venitia last at Leic @ 6/4 and here £22.12 bog 365 Nico @ 11/2. hth

ew btw!!

You guys are incorrigible.

Cheltenham isnt until March you wiukd need a time machine to have a first leg winner

Did you buy yourself any new underwear for Xmas Shafter? Must stink like the nappies you wear all the PYL you do?

Just name the horse you claimed was the first leg eric @ 7/2 , you already did btw plus you have the betting slip you claimed?

Really simple, takes minutes as shafter will tell you? Tbf he can't do it so a chance for you at oneupmanship?

No i am not a tipster as i said. However i can prove my winning bets in March dont worry about that.

To be read as you lied about the £1K first leg @ 7/2 with Willies?

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Puppet on a chain meltdown, get a life you spineless troll!!!

Both legs are for March what planet are you on?

tobymugs is on planet plootoh..telling more stories.