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themightymac
24 May 24 19:48
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With the great race only 8 days away wouldn`t it be a good time for a little bit of nostalgia and exchange of memories from a bygone era. Feel free to add your best memories.

I`ll start with my favourite Derby of all time from 1974 with this wonderful recollection of the event in splendid colour from British Movietone News which runs for just over 6 minutes.

Some great names from the past, horses and jockeys. And over half a million on the Epsom Downs to witness the great event. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx5aEC1DDmM

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By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 19:50
Winning time by Snow Knight was only half a second slower that the legendary Nijinsky!
By:
sparrow
When: 24 May 24 20:24
The 1965 Derby was one I most remember as I had a decent each way bet on I Say at 33/1 and the horse hit the front about 2 furlongs out and going well until up loomed the favourite Sea Bird 11 and the rest is history as the say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bar1ssbSmeI
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 24 May 24 20:37
fckn sparra marra ewe must be 88
By:
impossible123
When: 24 May 24 20:41
I cannot match you guys with such long memories. I can only go as far back as Shergar. He was my 1st horseracing bet after pundits on BBC Nationwide waxing lyrical on his potential and chance in the race; the choirboy was looking between his legs and over his shoulders 2f out. I also had £90 (cash) my entire allowance for the week on him.

Will City Of Troy do the same next saturday? I know one trainer who wishes nothing more next saturday.
By:
madhatters
When: 24 May 24 20:42
£90 allowance ?
Thats a lot of pocket money for the eighties Grin
By:
impossible123
When: 24 May 24 20:48
It was. I was in Uni and my rent was £11 per week. I think a pint of milk was only 17p.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 20:58
And the scary thing is I123 that the 2nd Glint of Gold was a very good horse in it`s own right. Shergar was fantastic. Your allowance was never in danger, albeit a suffragette running on to the track.
By:
andy cap
When: 24 May 24 20:58
Prince Monolulu                       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE403Izubxc
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:00
Sea Bird II was one of the greatest horses in Turf history. I might be wrong Sparrow but I think he sired the GN winner Rubstic. He just ran into a giant that day.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:01
I Gotta Horse!
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:02
Sparrow, what was that very good racing film that starred Billy Fury? Or am I getting mixed up with something else?
By:
penzance
When: 24 May 24 21:05
T/Form rating 145,was top until Frankel.
By:
madhatters
When: 24 May 24 21:06
themightymac 24 May 24 21:02 
Sparrow, what was that very good racing film that starred Billy Fury? Or am I getting mixed up with something else?
themightymac 24 May 24 21:01 
I Gotta Horse!

That one
By:
sparrow
When: 24 May 24 21:11
Mac, The horse owned by Billy Fury was Anselmo who finished 4th. I don't know about any film though.
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 24 May 24 21:12

May 24, 2024 -- 7:50PM, themightymac wrote:


Winning time by Snow Knight was only half a second slower that the legendary Nijinsky!


Good to see some proper jockeys again Mac.

By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:14
Probably the most famous Derby of all time for the wrong reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qkU_imbFoE

Emily Davison throwing herself in front of the King`s horse Anmer.

And no Rico, Sparrow wasn`t there that day.

.... he couldn`t get off work Laugh
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 24 May 24 21:14

May 24, 2024 -- 9:11PM, sparrow wrote:


Mac, The horse owned by Billy Fury was Anselmo who finished 4th. I don't know about any film though.


Think it was 4th to Santa Claus 64

By:
impossible123
When: 24 May 24 21:15
I wagered £30 on him in a computer generated race organised by the Sun Newspaper. Sea Bird won that. I was beyond comprehension. I was so new to horseracing, and extremely naive.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:15
That`s what I was thinking about Sparrow. Thanks for that. I couldn`t remember the Fury connection to the race but that was it. Anselmo. Brilliant Sparrow.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:17
Yes Tommy, some fantastic jockeys in the paddock for the 1974 Derby video at start of fred indeed.
By:
sparrow
When: 24 May 24 21:20
Santa Claus the winner in 64 was ridden by Scobie Breasley and just got up close home as favourite.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:23
I love these old Pathe news videos on the Derby.

Here is another historical race 1962. I`ll not spoil the drama for any younger viewers.

Even has Prince Monolulu for Andy Capp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NvrNYzVZjo
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:25
I gotta horse

Thanks madhatters - that was the film I was thinking about! Cheers.
By:
sparrow
When: 24 May 24 21:26
By the way Anselmo was trained by Keith Piggott the father of Lester.
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 24 May 24 21:30

May 24, 2024 -- 9:26PM, sparrow wrote:


By the way Anselmo was trained by Keith Piggott the father of Lester.


Might have this wrong Sparrow, but I seem to recall Anselmo being trained by Paddy Prendergast in Ireland and sold to Billy just before the Derby.

By:
sparrow
When: 24 May 24 21:35
I'm not sure if this report from the Liverpool Echo is correct from memory but I thought I'd better post it.

Special memory of Derby baptism
PAUL COOK was in dreamland when he had his first ride in the Derby as an up-and- coming apprentice.

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ByLiverpool Echo
00:00, 1 JUN 2007UPDATED21:38, 8 MAY 2013
PAUL COOK was in dreamland when he had his first ride in the Derby as an up-and- coming apprentice.

And what a baptism it was at Epsom back in 1964 as he rode Anselmo, owned by the late Liverpool pop star Billy Fury and trained by Lester Piggott’s late father, Keith.

The colt was a rank outsider and leading racing correspondent Clive Graham had promised to eat his hat if Anselmo finished in the first six.

The journalist was forced to eat humble pie as Cook steered the horse into fourth spot behind Santa Claus on the way to winning successive apprentice titles.

“Billy was terribly excited and The Queen was in the paddock,” Cook recalled. “You weren’t to smoke in the paddock but he was doing circles of smoke in there.

“I’d not ridden Anselmo before. When you are having your first ride in the Derby at 18 years old you are dreaming. He wasn’t a live prospect but he just gave me a great ride and ran terribly well.”
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 21:52
Yes, Anselmo was trained in the Derby by K Piggott. I have the card from a newspaper cutting and I`ll post it when cleared by the mods.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 22:05
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 22:05
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 22:06
Above: Blakeny and Ernie Johnson. Trained by Arthur Budgett.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 22:06
*Blakeney
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 22:11
1970 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes

Two Derby winners do battle

Blakeney takes on the mighty Nijinsky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUeXUd14h2o
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 22:13
I can`t remember another occasion since when two Derby winners race against each other. But I may be wrong.
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 22:16
Must admit, like Tommy, I thought I say was trained in Ireland too but it was a long time ago.
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 24 May 24 22:39
Mac- I Say was trained by Walter Nightingall at Epsom. One of my favourite trainers at that time.
Mac/Sparrow- I remember Keith Piggott being the trainer of Anselmo but I was saying prior to Epsom the horse was trained by PJ Prendergast in Ireland.
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 24 May 24 22:48
themightymac- My first Derby memory is Tulyar 1952 and I'll get back to you with others as well but not tonight. Teeing off at 7.30 am tomorrow.Laugh
By:
themightymac
When: 24 May 24 23:09
Good on you mate.

Enjoy the Golf.

Lot of cracking courses in your neck of the woods.
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 May 24 06:29
Bet no one will be able to answer this, im just curious if a 2000 gns winner, vase winner, lingfield derby trial winner, dante winner, sandown classic trial winner and the old predominate winner have all taken each other on in the big race
By:
penzance
When: 25 May 24 10:41
1986-Shahrastani won 2 of those (Sandown & York)
Dancing Brave
Nomrood
Allez Millord
Mashkour.
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