New laptop/Gruss problems (Help an idiot out)....

There is a security setting that only allows app installations from the Microsoft store. You need to unset it (and then remember not to download any other dodgy apps).

Go here and start reading at item 3:
https://www.makeuseof.com/app-isnt-microsoft-verified-warning-windows/

Alternatively, contact Gruss and ask them to make it available directly from the Microsoft store, although there might be cost implications here.

Alternatively, do a Google or Bing search on your error message.

Many thanks for your help, Ramruma, HOWEVER....having read it and watched several videos my advanced app settings (for some reason!) doesn't give me the "choose where you get your apps from" option! It's doing my head in....

OP
I'm a bit like you tech wise.Took mine to shop & paid a score to get gruss on it,Firefox
aswell if I remember rightly.Could be worth trying that option.
GL

What operating system does your new laptop have? Perhaps you bought a laptop that is in windows s mode. This prevents the downloading of apps from outside of the MS store ecosystem.

What does it say when you click on this link? https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307#WindowsVersion=Windows_11
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Ta - it's so frustrating...you follow the instructions and then the last one just isn't there!

May 7, 2024 -- 1:09PM, jamee1 wrote:

What operating system does your new laptop have? Perhaps you bought a laptop that is in windows s mode. This prevents the downloading of apps from outside of the MS store ecosystem. What does it say when you click on this link? https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307#WindowsVersion=Windows_11.

Click on that link then click on "switch out of s mode", then click 'open'. What does it say then?

Will look at that after racing - cheers Jamee1....

Contact Gruss Help. Usually pretty good.

Tried them on DM - waiting to hear more.

go settings > system > about

what operasting system does it say?

It doesn't!

It must do.
When you go to system click 'about'

It's right at the bottom.

Ah yes - told you I was an idiot.....64bit operating system, x64 based processor?

May 7, 2024 -- 2:21PM, gerard wrote:

Ah yes - told you I was an idiot.....64bit operating system, x64 based processor?

What does it say by Windows.

gerard similar thickness to Mandingo's peenus.

it dept here
A)Switch computer OFF
B)Switch computer ON

Dada

Windows 11 Home in S mode?

Yeah that's it. You need to remove s mode as per my link above.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windo...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307#WindowsVersion=Windows_11

read this gerry..slowly

Fingers crossed - cheers all.....

Reading this jogged my memory of getting a new laptop a couple of years ago.
Was a pain getting out of that S mode. They don't want you to use anything but microsoft and edge, and you can't use chrome or any other browsers or apps until you fire it off.
In addition I turn almost everything off in settings as there's so much unwanted unnecessary bloatware on a new machine.
Good Luck gerard you'll sort it eventually.

Why Windows? I think the bees knees is Chrome now.

Gruss only works on Windows.

I'm dreading the day my Windows 7 laptop gives up. Literally held together with duck tape now.

Why screaming?  I bought a factory refurbed Win 10 laptop last year to replace my old Win 7 machine - no problems at all.

For all the reasons outlined in this thread. Plus the lack of single-finger scrolling on W10/11.

Windows 7 is just so straightforward and user-friendly.

Anyway, the laptop is a Lenovo G770 which I bought thirteen years ago. The hard drive failed after three years, and I had a new hard drive fitted, and it's been fine ever since. I'm hoping that once you've replaced the cheap Chinese hard drive, the thing will be immortal.

screaming from beneaththewaves 07 May 24 17:20 
Gruss only works on Windows.

I'm dreading the day my Windows 7 laptop gives up. Literally held together with duck tape now.
longbridge 07 May 24 17:24 
Why screaming?  I bought a factory refurbed Win 10 laptop last year to replace my old Win 7 machine - no problems at all.


win 10 is windows.

Well, yes, rico. But I don't want to have to go through what gerard is going through right now.

May 7, 2024 -- 5:37PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:

Well, yes, rico. But I don't want to have to go through what gerard is going through right now.

That's only because he bought a laptop with a closed operating system. The s-mode. Just make sure you avoid that and you'll be fine.

Gruss is archaic, can't believe anyone uses that unless your're an excel monkey.

May 7, 2024 -- 5:41PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

Gruss is archaic, can't believe anyone uses that unless your're an excel monkey.

What do you use, Cardinal?

Thanks. I'll try to remember that when the day comes.

Bet Angel or Geeks Toy.

By the way, is there any way of knowing whether a laptop is not 's-mode' when you buy it?

I mean, do Argos specify something like 'This machine is not s-mode', or is it buried somewhere in the small print?

There are many tutorials on YT about disabling Window S

Currys you can see devices fitted with Windows S-mode using the filter.

Should say in the spec where is mentions the operating system. I used to be in the industry and it was always going to be for the lower end machines like Cloudbooks etc, but don't know if that has changed over time.

Thanks, gents. Appreciated.

screaming

"Plus the lack of single-finger scrolling on W10/11"

What's that I'm missing?  Assuming you're not on a touch screen, I scrol W10 with a wheel on the mouse with a single finger - maybe you mean something else?

And W10 doesn't have all the stuff refered to in this thread, or at least it's not bitten me.

And Win 7 has been ages out of support - Win 10 has another 18 months or so to go at least, then I guess I'll have to look at 11.

Used laptops and desktops for years now and until reading this thread had never heard of Windows S and had to look it up.

Windows 10 in S mode is a version of Windows 10 that's streamlined for security and performance, while providing a familiar Windows experience. To increase security, it allows only apps from Microsoft Store, and requires Microsoft Edge for safe browsing.

How long has this been going on?

May 7, 2024 -- 6:48PM, sparrow wrote:

Used laptops and desktops for years now and until reading this thread had never heard of Windows S and had to look it up.Windows 10 in S mode is a version of Windows 10 that's streamlined for security and performance, while providing a familiar Windows experience. To increase security, it allows only apps from Microsoft Store, and requires Microsoft Edge for safe browsing. How long has this been going on?

About 6 years. MS response to closed eco system OS like Google ChromeOS.

Unless it's changed, you are able to choose to revert it to standard.

Thanks, jamee.  I no longer use Chrome after experiencing their synching antics but maybe I'm getting too old for all this nonsense.

You can't do single-finger scrolling on the touchpad with Windows 10 or 11.

I never use a mouse, because that would mean sitting at a desk. I'm not doing that. It would feel like I'm employed in an office or something. The whole point of gambling is to avoid that fate. Slumped on a beanbag in front of the telly with a Windows 7 laptop and single-finger scrolling on the touchpad suits me fine.

As for the security aspect, Windows still delivers security updates for Microsoft Security Essentials if you're on Windows 7. Here is today's:

Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Security Essentials - KB2310138 (Version 1.411.12.0) - Current Channel (Broad)

Installation date: ‎07/‎05/‎2024 18:04

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Recommended

Install this update to revise the files that are used to detect viruses, spyware, and other potentially unwanted software. Once you have installed this item, it cannot be removed.

In addition, the operating system itself is never updated, so no new loopholes get created, as they are with Windows 10 and 11. So, I'm happy with the security aspect.

No new loopholes get created, but no newly-discovered ones get patched, aiui.

And MSE is just a virus (etc) scanner - it doesn't stop bad actors exploiting any OS-level vulnerabilities.

But whatever you're comfortable with, of course.

Gruss now installed and working on the new laptop - I would describe the torture of having to reset my microsoft account to do it but I think I've embarrassed myself quite enough already. Many thanks to those who helped.

We all live and learn, gerard.

We'll see about the learn bit when I start the same thread next time I have to buy a new laptop...

Within a year Windows 7 will be the only one that's free.68% of the world population still use the lucky seven

I've two laptops - one being used, the other ready to use - both with the same browser and bookmarks as I need to access an entity asap, if need to. But, it's a pain if using a different browser or OS.

Well done 'gerard'. I hope your new laptop gives you years of enjoyment and generates prosperity here.

And just to add Windows 7 is the daddy of the new kid on the block named AI.
and we all know that you have to do what your daddy tells you to do.
so it looks like Windows 7 will be about for a long long time.
"now sit down and be quiet or i will switch you off"

Windows 7 is magic and extremely useful. It does not carry excess unnecessary baggage. I'd (have 3 laptops/2 still useful with Windows 7 after repairs to the adaptor outlet/socket. Post Windows 7 the others were inadequate in comparison. Hence, the main reason I've switched to Chromebook.