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eyes down, what's on your card as to why this valuable stud prospect put in a shocker?
legs eleven: scoped badly
two fat ladies: stood on a pebble
unlucky for some: swallowed a wasp
knock on the door: pulled a muscle
legs eleven: scoped badly
two fat ladies: stood on a pebble
unlucky for some: swallowed a wasp
knock on the door: pulled a muscle
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I was going to do a top 10 reasons why list but the last time I did this Constitution Hill actually got Covid 19 lol
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Who had "became tired" on their card?
The performance of CITY OF TROY (USA), which started favourite and finished unplaced, was considered. The representative of Aidan O'Brien’s explanation that the colt became tired on his seasonal reappearance in a strongly run race, was noted. The Veterinary Officer examined CITY OF TROY (USA) during routine testing and had nothing to report. No doubt something else will come to light in the morning. |
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became tired
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Load of old bollocks flat racing. Unraced 2yo never raced on grass hoses up. Unbeaten odds on fav top trainer/jockey runs like a drain. Pure guessing game anybody who prefers this carp to NH racing needs their head tested.
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Storm Alert 04 May 24 17:59
Load of old bollocks flat racing. Unraced 2yo never raced on grass hoses up. Bit like that unraced Enable at Newcastle first time. |
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Didnt Ghanaati do the same . Never raced on grass before winning 1000 GNS?
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Enabled somehow subsequently got beat in her next conditions race, her 1st on grass...
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Can’t even afford a can of red bull for Troy lol
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The Lads have suggested a couple of Hours Extra Sleep before its next run
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geoff m 04 May 24 18:14
Didnt Ghanaati do the same . Never raced on grass before winning 1000 GNS? I remember Ghanaati winning at Lingfield AW but didn't know of her next race. |
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She ran twice @ Kempton,3rd/1st.
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Ghanaati won twice at Kempton before the 1,000gns
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Yeah 3rd and 1st
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Why do some punters still look down on AW racing?
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I backed ROSALLION each way
I did seriously consider the winner but no form on grass made me put a cross through it It also had fitness on its side but even so I’m not sure ROSALLION would turn the tables? As for OBRIEN, he’s full of statements just to please the press, but why not? His obligation is to the owners, they pay the bills, what I mean is when it comes to his short priced ones his owners are by and large millionaires, they aren’t bothered about getting money on odds on shots, they ARE worried about stud fees, what price he doesn’t even race again? I also think he’s a bit like the Man City manager as in he’s got the best “players” If he’s that great how come AUGUSTE RODIN runs like a champ, runs like a pig, runs like a champ, runs like a pig etc How many times has he won with the “wrong one” Anyone one else old enough to remember for example other world beaters such as APALACHEE… As for tomorrow I think the French filly is pretty solid All the best |
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Another One Cool Cat
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Air Force Blue
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I blame the Greeks.
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Good morning Shropshirelad
I’m sure not having form on grass would have been a fair reason to be put off however he was allowed to work on the rowley mile to get the experience of the dip . |
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Air Force Blue (AFB) is a classic example. His run in the 2000G (4/5 fav) was as bad as yesterday by City Of Troy; AFB bombed at odds-on in the 2000G. Then he was downgraded to sprinting, and his form still did not improve.
The horse clearly had not trained on, period! But, connections never admitted to that! I think City Of Troy could be a repeat. Of course, the jury is still out. |
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Excuse bingo: "he was upset in the stalls" says Aiden. The horse was loaded last and in the stalls for 2.5 seconds. Tell us another. Was Francesca the only pundit brave enough to say how small and light the fav looked?
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Francesca may need a lesson on decorum. I think she takes after her dad who dared to "antagonise" the arrogant owner of Postponed by refusing to agree to the horse running in some silly races in Meydan and foregoing a win in The Ar.
Mr Cumani was vindicated; Postponed was beaten to Found and her stablemates in The Arc despite thrashing them at Epsom prior. |
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They'll never tell us the true reasons it flopped.
The truth is usually tied in with the way the trainer has handled it, and the agenda set out, (the winner yesterday never ran as a 2yo.) But check this out: Total earnings for winner Notable Speech, including the The Guineas. £283.550 Total earning for City of Troy. £367.007. Ignore what the trainer says and let the money talk for him. Then the truth might start to emerge. |
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The "silver" bullet approach convinced and swayed many backers of City Of Troy. I'd be amazed if he runs at Epsom without another run in public prior eg Dante, etc. This or packed-off to stud is more likely than turning up at Epsom without another run, I believe.
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truehoncho 04 May 24 23:12
Tbf it's not AOB's fault. Anyone who ever thought that horse was going to be a superstar clearly don't have a clue about horses. He is quite simply a poor looking thoroughbred that was never going to train on into anything special. He is narrow, shallow girthed and small and always has been. Some were betting him at 3/1 last July for today's guineas. The media and other industry commentators are never ever going to say anything negative about a Coolmore horse as they are all on the gravy train. The winner looks very decent as do the 2nd and 3rd. On teh whole I think it was an above average Guineas, we shall see. honcho knew  |
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Watching the race back, when you compare COT racing alongside Haatem (who was on the go all season as a 2YO and had twice been trounced by COT), he looked physically inferior to that rival.
You'd think they'd have a good idea as to whether or not the horse had trained on, and if he hadn't they wouldn't risk diminishing his stud value by running him? Strange. Will we see him again? |
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george,imo..the betting alone told you they expected it to win..they know the time of day.
how many flops do ewe think ive scene in the last 50yrs?..and im knott talking penusses. |
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Rico, as asked, is he another Air Force Blue? Who was also sent off odds-on for the 2000G after a stellar juvenile season.
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Ron Wood in his analysis for the RP writes:
"...but a somewhat precocious pedigree and lack of real physical scope adds weight to the idea he might just have been a 2YO." |
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its was strong in the betting all day...they are one of the best operations in the world..they knew what they had....it flopped..sew have plenty others.
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So I take it we can safely dismiss COT's easy win by 6 lengths in the Group2 in its second race last season.
And treat it's saunter home by 3.5L in the Group 1 Dewhurst Stakes last season, as if it never happened. In which incidently, Raceform has COT rated higher than the Guineas winner. Never mind The Dewhurst prize being slightly more valuable. I can also mention the third in the Giuneas beaten 3.25L. Was beaten twice by COT last season, by 6.5L and 8.5L These events never took place? |
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You don't have to dismiss anything, Dr Crippen
And the good news for those of you who wish to keep the faith, should we see him again on a racecourse, is that you're going to get a price for him, as plenty will be looking to take him on after yesterday's dismal showing. I did think there might be one of two options now for the horse: 1. They find something 'amiss' and retire the colt to stud. 2. Give him a break and wait for a piss-weak Group race at the Curragh in which to run him to try and redeem his reputation / go out on a win. |
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Relocate him to America, and stay there. Also, I do not want to hear anymore about the prowess of Justify as a sire.
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Another classic winner that started life on the AW
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There's a messaage in that WP.
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Climate change
That why they ran on the AW Need good ground conditions |
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Yes Dr Crippen. I think starting your horse out on the AW looks the right way to go for future success.
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You do have to wonder. Just like Auguste Rodin did last season he has been a non event in the Guineas.
He was foaming at the mouth after a furlong. Just ridiculous. |