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21 Apr 24 18:33
Date Joined: 09 Feb 24
| Topic/replies: 3 | Blogger: Popadom's blog
If Paul Nichols wanted the trainers title so much this year then he should have used his best jockey bryony frost more rather than push her out off his yard I’m really hoping he doesn’t win it’s his own fault
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Report Jinxy1 April 21, 2024 6:34 PM BST
Report Twoboyz April 21, 2024 6:36 PM BST
Report freddiewilliams April 21, 2024 6:37 PM BST
Report Cider April 21, 2024 6:38 PM BST
It's a brave shout at this late stage.
Report sparrow April 21, 2024 6:44 PM BST
That'll get a few of them on here excited Laugh
Report Cider April 21, 2024 6:48 PM BST
Never let a good white knighting opportunity go to waste. That would surely be the only reason to try and claim Frost is a superior jockey to Cobden.
Report Ramruma April 21, 2024 6:58 PM BST
Cobden may be the best jumps jockey in the country. That said, I'd rather have Bryony than Lorcan Williams.
Report acey deucy April 21, 2024 7:00 PM BST
No maybes Cobden Is The Best.Wink
Report 11kv April 21, 2024 7:24 PM BST
Robbie says thanks for the support.
Report sparrow April 21, 2024 7:32 PM BST
Report LoyalHoncho April 21, 2024 7:50 PM BST
ffs.  I just read this in the middle of a pot and nearly pressed the all-in button.  Cool
Report barstool April 21, 2024 8:24 PM BST
You have certainly been busy on here Popadom.
Report thelatarps April 21, 2024 8:31 PM BST
Cobden is not fit to tie the Bryster's boots.
I will always remember the Queen Mother in 2021. Bryony was booked up on Greaneteen. A 33-1 shot. Thought xmas had come early.
Then Politolog gets injured in his box and PFN jocks her off for Cobden.
Absolutely gutted.
Coming to the last, fluck me Greaneteen is in with a shout. One big jump and the race is there for the taking. But no. Cobden sits quietly and is weak as a lamb in the finish. 4th spot. Out of the places. Thanks a bunch.
I just know Bryony would have thrown the kitchen sink at the last and in the run in. To top it off she boots Greaneteen home in the Celebration Chase a month later.
Cobden would never have won the King George on Frodon. And BraveMansGame is an ideal type for Bryony. Huge cruising speed you could see taking off out front, never seeing another rival. Bit like what Denman did. But Nicholls couldnt handle that what with Kauto getting turned over. Seems like PFN is still playing favourites and it looks like its cost him his title.
Report LoyalHoncho April 22, 2024 3:02 AM BST
"would have thrown the kitchen sink at the last".

I've heard it all now.
Report wondersobright April 22, 2024 8:48 AM BST
Ramruma • April 21, 2024 6:58 PM BST
That said, I'd rather have Bryony than Lorcan Williams.

Report Ramruma April 22, 2024 9:36 AM BST
wondersobright -- Paul Nicholls gave Lorcan as many rides as Bryony.

In the years 2023 and 24 (since I'm too lazy to look up the start and end of season dates) Nicholls gave used these riders this many times (and a few others in single figures):-

489 Harry Cobden
77 Lorcan Williams
77 Bryony Frost
72 Freddie Gingell
32 Angus Cheleda
22 Miss Olive Nicholls
12 A P Heskin
Report top2rated April 22, 2024 10:53 AM BST

Report Cider April 22, 2024 10:59 AM BST
It's not a straight forward analysis as Frost has ties with other trainers. I imagine Nicholls lets her off to ride for Wadham, et al. Plus, Nicholls' tier 2 is not what it once was. Once you take out the ones they want to claim off, it's not generous pickings.
Report acey deucy April 22, 2024 11:02 AM BST
Tom Buckley what happened to him?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk April 22, 2024 11:02 AM BST
Lorcan does the job Havlin does for Gosden. Just give him a spin round old chap.
I'll bung you a winner here and there
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk April 22, 2024 11:06 AM BST
There's a lady rider Elizabeth ?? who will be better than Bryony.
More nous in race riding imo.
Should keep the dirty mac brigade happy
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk April 22, 2024 11:09 AM BST
Are there stats to show BF's win/loss rate when she tries to lead from the start early on?
Someone on twitter was saying she is the best front running jockey bar none.
I feel it's a case of noticing the winning rides and not the back of telly jobs.
Report doorman99 April 22, 2024 1:08 PM BST
acey, didn't he go to Gordon Elliot? cuckoo, Elizabeth Gale.
Report Brian April 22, 2024 1:37 PM BST
At over 34% winning rate perhaps Olive should Nicholls first choice. Lies, damn lies and statistics.

On a more serious note, Bryony Frost doesn't get the rides she should but we know why.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk April 22, 2024 1:40 PM BST
She gets the same amount of rides pre Dunne and after with a similar win rate.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk April 22, 2024 1:40 PM BST
I think the hype has blurred people's minds
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk April 22, 2024 1:42 PM BST
Elizabeth Gale is the one doorman99, cheers
Report LoyalHoncho April 22, 2024 3:07 PM BST
I am really impressed ( and full of admiration for ) how so many of these female jockeys, who frankly were weak as kittens when they started, have improved to become really reliable pros.  Isobel Williams, Osborne, Pinchin and one or two others.  Our old heroes, who simply scoffed at the idea that a woman could possibly succeed in the game, would be astonished I am sure.
Report duffy April 22, 2024 3:08 PM BST
Watch Aussie racing and they are 10 a penny
Report LoyalHoncho April 22, 2024 3:12 PM BST
Prefer Aussie dog racing.  Results announced and before you can use your mouse your winning dosh is in your account.
Higher commission but that is the only minus for me.  So slick compared to our product it is untrue.
Report KiddyKid April 22, 2024 6:26 PM BST
This should have been posted April 1st not 21st.
Report ribero1 May 4, 2024 10:16 AM BST
Frost to be retained by Munir & Suade in France.
Report Ramruma May 4, 2024 10:20 AM BST
That is interesting as Simon Munir & Isaac Souede will presumably have access to top advice on riding grooms from inside Closutton, although I guess it is vaguely possible they just wanted someone who can speak English.
Report Ramruma May 4, 2024 10:21 AM BST
... or someone who can tip them any good French novices who might be for sale!
Report ribero1 May 4, 2024 10:34 AM BST
Wasn't she with or still is with Mullins jnr?
Report acey deucy May 4, 2024 10:59 AM BST
I cant see her taking to France.
Report formoftheace May 4, 2024 11:38 AM BST
The b@ll sack honcho will be fuming if she does
Report brendrew May 5, 2024 5:25 PM BST
Is honcho her agent- more he gets wound up the more success she has.munirs FFS!
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