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Popadom
21 Apr 24 18:33
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If Paul Nichols wanted the trainers title so much this year then he should have used his best jockey bryony frost more rather than push her out off his yard I’m really hoping he doesn’t win it’s his own fault

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By:
Jinxy1
When: 21 Apr 24 18:34
Bollox.
By:
Twoboyz
When: 21 Apr 24 18:36
WALOFS
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 21 Apr 24 18:37
Bull
By:
Cider
When: 21 Apr 24 18:38
It's a brave shout at this late stage.
By:
sparrow
When: 21 Apr 24 18:44
That'll get a few of them on here excited Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 21 Apr 24 18:48
Never let a good white knighting opportunity go to waste. That would surely be the only reason to try and claim Frost is a superior jockey to Cobden.
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Apr 24 18:58
Cobden may be the best jumps jockey in the country. That said, I'd rather have Bryony than Lorcan Williams.
By:
acey deucy
When: 21 Apr 24 19:00
No maybes Cobden Is The Best.Wink
By:
11kv
When: 21 Apr 24 19:24
Robbie says thanks for the support.
By:
sparrow
When: 21 Apr 24 19:32
Grin
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 21 Apr 24 19:50
ffs.  I just read this in the middle of a pot and nearly pressed the all-in button.  Cool
By:
barstool
When: 21 Apr 24 20:24
You have certainly been busy on here Popadom.
By:
thelatarps
When: 21 Apr 24 20:31
Cobden is not fit to tie the Bryster's boots.
I will always remember the Queen Mother in 2021. Bryony was booked up on Greaneteen. A 33-1 shot. Thought xmas had come early.
Then Politolog gets injured in his box and PFN jocks her off for Cobden.
Absolutely gutted.
Coming to the last, fluck me Greaneteen is in with a shout. One big jump and the race is there for the taking. But no. Cobden sits quietly and is weak as a lamb in the finish. 4th spot. Out of the places. Thanks a bunch.
I just know Bryony would have thrown the kitchen sink at the last and in the run in. To top it off she boots Greaneteen home in the Celebration Chase a month later.
Cobden would never have won the King George on Frodon. And BraveMansGame is an ideal type for Bryony. Huge cruising speed you could see taking off out front, never seeing another rival. Bit like what Denman did. But Nicholls couldnt handle that what with Kauto getting turned over. Seems like PFN is still playing favourites and it looks like its cost him his title.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 22 Apr 24 03:02
"would have thrown the kitchen sink at the last".

I've heard it all now.
By:
wondersobright
When: 22 Apr 24 08:48
Ramruma • April 21, 2024 6:58 PM BST
That said, I'd rather have Bryony than Lorcan Williams.


Shocked
By:
Ramruma
When: 22 Apr 24 09:36
wondersobright -- Paul Nicholls gave Lorcan as many rides as Bryony.

In the years 2023 and 24 (since I'm too lazy to look up the start and end of season dates) Nicholls gave used these riders this many times (and a few others in single figures):-

489 Harry Cobden
77 Lorcan Williams
77 Bryony Frost
72 Freddie Gingell
32 Angus Cheleda
22 Miss Olive Nicholls
12 A P Heskin
By:
top2rated
When: 22 Apr 24 10:53


By:
Cider
When: 22 Apr 24 10:59
It's not a straight forward analysis as Frost has ties with other trainers. I imagine Nicholls lets her off to ride for Wadham, et al. Plus, Nicholls' tier 2 is not what it once was. Once you take out the ones they want to claim off, it's not generous pickings.
By:
acey deucy
When: 22 Apr 24 11:02
Tom Buckley what happened to him?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 22 Apr 24 11:02
Lorcan does the job Havlin does for Gosden. Just give him a spin round old chap.
I'll bung you a winner here and there
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 22 Apr 24 11:06
There's a lady rider Elizabeth ?? who will be better than Bryony.
More nous in race riding imo.
Should keep the dirty mac brigade happy
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 22 Apr 24 11:09
Are there stats to show BF's win/loss rate when she tries to lead from the start early on?
Someone on twitter was saying she is the best front running jockey bar none.
I feel it's a case of noticing the winning rides and not the back of telly jobs.
By:
doorman99
When: 22 Apr 24 13:08
acey, didn't he go to Gordon Elliot? cuckoo, Elizabeth Gale.
By:
Brian
When: 22 Apr 24 13:37
At over 34% winning rate perhaps Olive should Nicholls first choice. Lies, damn lies and statistics.

On a more serious note, Bryony Frost doesn't get the rides she should but we know why.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 22 Apr 24 13:40
She gets the same amount of rides pre Dunne and after with a similar win rate.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 22 Apr 24 13:40
I think the hype has blurred people's minds
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 22 Apr 24 13:42
Elizabeth Gale is the one doorman99, cheers
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 22 Apr 24 15:07
I am really impressed ( and full of admiration for ) how so many of these female jockeys, who frankly were weak as kittens when they started, have improved to become really reliable pros.  Isobel Williams, Osborne, Pinchin and one or two others.  Our old heroes, who simply scoffed at the idea that a woman could possibly succeed in the game, would be astonished I am sure.
By:
duffy
When: 22 Apr 24 15:08
Watch Aussie racing and they are 10 a penny
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 22 Apr 24 15:12
Prefer Aussie dog racing.  Results announced and before you can use your mouse your winning dosh is in your account.
Higher commission but that is the only minus for me.  So slick compared to our product it is untrue.
By:
KiddyKid
When: 22 Apr 24 18:26
This should have been posted April 1st not 21st.
By:
ribero1
When: 04 May 24 10:16
Frost to be retained by Munir & Suade in France.
By:
Ramruma
When: 04 May 24 10:20
That is interesting as Simon Munir & Isaac Souede will presumably have access to top advice on riding grooms from inside Closutton, although I guess it is vaguely possible they just wanted someone who can speak English.
By:
Ramruma
When: 04 May 24 10:21
... or someone who can tip them any good French novices who might be for sale!
By:
ribero1
When: 04 May 24 10:34
Wasn't she with or still is with Mullins jnr?
By:
acey deucy
When: 04 May 24 10:59
I cant see her taking to France.
By:
formoftheace
When: 04 May 24 11:38
The b@ll sack honcho will be fuming if she does
By:
brendrew
When: 05 May 24 17:25
Is honcho her agent- more he gets wound up the more success she has.munirs FFS!
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