who was the bloodstock agent for Flash In The park ?

how much should i bid ?

well i think it has the potential to be a Cheltenham horse so if you've got a spare THIRD OF A MILLION POUNDS then you will probably get him...

ok no probs will do.

Must be one of the biggest gambles you can take, investing in bloodstock, need deep pockets. If they win the Bumper today i'm sure would make up for it.

any owner who listens to a word a bloodstock agent says deserves everything they get imv...

they're just guessers like everyone else.

4% of that is tasty...

Like most things in life, if you sound like you know what you're talking about, some people will believe you.

agree stewarts.

he's got a lovely constitution...

lovely shoulder on him...

lovely walker...

absolutely.

On a day when Goffs UK graduate Jonbon blazed brightly in a flawless Henry VIII Novices' Chase display, the action off the track shone in an equally meaningful way at the first running of the Tingle Creek Sale.
Heading the first boutique sale of its kind at Sandown were two high-class Donnchadh Doyle inmates in Lingstown and Knockmullen House four-year-old maiden winners Brook Bay and Flash In The Park, who sold for £380,000 and £350,000 respectively.
Brook Bay, who struck by a ready four lengths last month, was ultimately knocked down to Martin Tedham of Wasdell Properties, the sponsor of Jonjo O'Neill's Gloucestershire yard after being the subject of competitive bidding around the winner's enclosure at the Esher track. The underbidder was Highflyer Bloodstock's Anthony Bromley with Nicky Henderson.

Taking the lead earlier in the session was Doyle's Flash In The Park, the sole lot in the sale by Coolmore's brilliant sire Walk In The Park and a 20-length winner on his second point start at Knockmullen House last month.
The four-year-old went the way of Ben Pauling and undoubtedly part of his appeal was the recent update to his page. He is out of the unraced Un Desperado mare Mrs Masters, whose Montelimar half-sister Darrens Lass is the dam of last month's Grade 2 Florida Pearl Novice Chase winner Darrens Hope.


Brook Bay is another pile of rubbish

The episode involving the new to the sport Exterior Profiles Ltd being taken for a ride by Webber, with Sherwood assistance, would be enough to put off anyone becoming involved - particularly as the general feedback from within the industry was all round commiserations for the pair for being unfortunate in getting caught out, as it was accepted as being far from rare practice.

cheers in hell...

Anthony Bromley...

another guessing expert who seems to do nowt wrong when it comes to the horse trading business...

well according to the racing press/media who slobber all over him right enough.

And the multi millionaire, Tom Malone, universally disliked by everyone yet they still use him......

surely if all the irish had got 1st pick and said nah thanks ,you,d just give it a swerve

Tom Malone...

has that cheeky chappy look about him doorman...

having heard him a few times being interviewed when he was jockeying for The Pipe Squad i wouldn't rate him as a form student never mind the price a horse was worth...

owners with far too much spare cash looking for a way to spend it...

hideous tbh.

if he told me tomorrow was Thursday i'd check the calendar.

Always remember him virtually sat in the lap of John Hales at one of those preview nights years ago, now seems to be everywhere with Pumpkin.

can't stand the bloke doorman...

i keep going back to the interviews he gave when he was with Pipe...

just rubbed me up the wrong way tbh...

obviously the racing press/media lapped it up tho.

Always think he has the face of a weasel.

wouldn't disagree doorman.

Toms on the box
now

thankfully i missed it ISLL...

no doubt he will have been blagging about all the good ones he's advised on...

the poor ones are just completely ignored as if they never actually happened.

Lol Hibby, that's exactly what he did......

Absolutely spot on hibb,the game is full of old gypsy type horse sellers…..

Malone dressed up smart and fortunately for him he has the name now in the Bloodstock world….

not one bit surprised doorman...

he's that type imv.

something wins/comes 2nd in an Irish PtP...

all of a sudden it's a world beater with a lovely shoulder/conformation and has a nice swaggering walk...

i'd bid half a million says one of the expert bloodstock agents...

it's very scientific and runts on here couldn't possibly be as good as they are.

Great moment at Taunton a few weeks ago, Nicholls/Malone fav, cost a fortune, owner in attendance, first run for him, not even in first 2, N and M and owner all stood there in complete silence after, brilliant!

the pair of them probably had a good chuckle to themselves in the bar when the owner wasn't there imv doorman...

they can't lose these people imv.

who do Clipper Logistics use as their expert bloodstock adviser ?

i have a right to know considering how much the UK government gave them top store PPE before anyone asks.

Joe Foley of Ballyhane Stud.

cheers doorman...

nice work if you can get it.

Look at Tattersalls Cheltenham tonight, Gordon Elliott has loads of these rediculous people 400k plus for a once raced pointer.

The % guys must be in clover,but can you blame them ?

4 or 5 % and counting,you know how greed works….

the whole industry is a stinking mess imv...

why owners with half a million pounds per horse put their faith in these people who have the nonsense 'expert' tag attached to them is beyond me...

i know plenty of folk who could give excellent advice on horses without it costing the owner 20-25k per horse...

it's utter madness and as per usual the press does/says absolutely nowt about it...

all they do is suck up to these 'experts' when they pop up with a decent one and ignore all the duds they have advised on.

Don't forget the massive kickback they get from the seller, have their hand out at both ends, 5% from the buyer and whatever deal they have with the seller. Reason the 150k horse has suddenly become a 300k beast. One of the top flat lady owner breeders (can't remember who) brought this up years ago in the paper and said that she refused to deal with them on principle so unless she had a really exceptional talent that everyone wanted her horses would make less money. In any other industry it would be called an extortion racket but in the closed shop of racing it is the norm. Probably the reason David Elsworth called all agents parasites in an interview.

Like being a football agent
Gets his commisions from both sides

The BHA brought in a code of conduct that no kickbacks were allowed anymore, totally ignored naturally.

David Elsworth and the other lady breeder are spot on imv doorman...

it wasn't lady beaverbrook was it ?

she didn't mind speaking her mind...

the way it SHOULD be.

i seem to remember the BHA brought in some facile 'rule' a while back doorman...

was it not something like you can only be an 'agent' if you deposited 100k in to a Wetherbys account or something like that ?

Don't know anything about that Hibby

was probably someone more recent tbh doorman...

Julie Wood ?

she bred a fair few i seem to remember.

Ask Alex Ferguson what he thinks of Agent’s…….hold the ears tho….

David Elsworth doesn’t speak with fork tongue……regarding riding,99% horse…..ihv

£410k top sale yeaterday

Here now, Mighty Bandit £400k plus Gordon to Greatrex, how mad would you need to be, Warren already making his excuses on itv, lol.

Fergie has used agents many times in football (Manchester United for sure) and horse racing aceform...

it's delusional doorman...

brainless is another word tbh.

Yes but his hands were tied hibb,there was another top manager who hated them with passion….

that jamie Codd bloke...

works for Goffs i think...

he's an interesting character.

Fergie will pay bloodstock agents now tho aceform...

guarantee it.

Oh aye probably doesn’t know what he’s worth,money spewing from all angles

his wine cellar is nice aceform.

I’ll bet but not for us fodder…..

£425,000 was a barging, should have been £426,000,a grand for the horse and £425,000 for the sack of carrots that should have come with it

Where was it? Oh there, back of telly.

they had a nice day out at Cheltenham tho doorman...

i get the feeling that's all some of these owners actually care about tbh...

if it means them spending over 400k then so be it...

it's a strange world alright.

expert bloodstock agents will be all over that Mozzies Sister...

i can arrange a private sale if the price is right