Johnny Dineen

If you want to know more  https://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/bettingpeople-johnny-dineen/ .

A few impressions here of racing folk and Johnny isn't spared!

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johnny said if found a fifty wins he will do next weeks show in just his undercrakers

A somewhat meteoric rise to the head table of the gravy train for Mr Dineen,seems to be employed as the Posts Shock Jock with wild statements on whether to lay or back one of the front 2 in the market,can't see the point of his column but good luck to him.

Clown, failed bookmaker - Why the Racing Post give him print on a Saturday, just tipping Mullins/Elliot odds on shots god only knows.  His latest gem is saying a horse has "a stone in hand " for a Cheltenham handicap??? It's CREBILLY -  can't jump, and won a 3 runner race at Exeter last time when the 2nd chucked it in.

I will be putting him under the Spotlight at Cheltenham.

Johnny Dineen replaced Gavin Lynch on the Racing Post's Upping the Ante videos after Lynch decided to try his hand as a commercial tipster. Viewers loved Dineen (even if I could not see it myself) and suddenly he has a Racing Post column and is a guest pundit on, well, everything and was in great demand on the Cheltenham preview circuit.

Hope that isn't ironic and a touch of jealousy he is a breath of fresh air very watchable if you don't like it you have options one being to turn over other don't read it simples at least he gives an opinion seems a very nice bloke to me.

I don’t think it’s jealousy it’s totally OTT. I feel same with other sports too. Gary Neville etc… perhaps though its just what the masses want. Some sort of dumbed down easy listening. I used to like The Couch for this. He was pretty funny guy

not heard much of the couch lately hows he doing ? was entertaining on those previews imo.

Not sure he tipped a single ante-post winner after taking over from Gavin Lynch. Fortunately, Jennings was just as bad.

Instead of being dumped on the basis of results, he has been signed up for everything based on comedic appeal rather than that of a tipster. His impact just confirms the sport is full of dullards who won't say anything that might rock the boat.

Johnny will be visiting Paddy's Shop on the Cheltenham High St at 4.30.
There to mingle with punters and to cough, sneeze all over the place.

If you happen to be in the shop, please hand him a lemsip.

dave j and johnny d work very well together imo , a good double act !

I did like it last year when JD was on a podcast for chelts and the Starsports rep gave two boosts and Johnny asked if he could avail after the show.
The rep kept going no have the bet now Johnny, how much?
"No that's okay I'll speak afterwards"
"Go ahead Johnny lemme know how much and I'll see if I can accommodate you"
"Okay can I have £30,000/16,000 singles on Mighty Potter and El Fabiolo"

The rep nearly puked, lol

Decent bets for a "failed bookmaker" imo

Well if those bets were laid , JD would have blown about £12000.

JD only said those bets as he knew they would never get taken

^^^^you don't know the man

JD ''Found A Fifty won't be winning the My Pension Expert Arkle anyway. Let's get that out of the way first. He's as short as 9-2, but I wouldn't back him at 9-1 or even 90-1. He's not good enough to win a race like this and I don't think he's a strong finisher either. Not a great combination at the festival so he is the one horse on Tuesday who won't be winning''

Can i take 90/1 please?

Well if those bets were laid , JD would have blown about £12000.

You won't get a job as a settler! Kinell

JD only said those bets as he knew they would never get taken

The kid had to drag it out of Johnny, JD knew he was just a rep and had no clue of his bet size and what he could take. Was trying not to show him up but the kid wouldn't quit.

The rep was Starsports who brag about taking £250,000 bets in the past so £16k at 15/8 twice is small beer.

Mighty Potter lost £30000  and he had £16000 on El Fab.Where's the error?

£16k at 15/8 on each horse.
Bookie speak is £30k/£16k on each horse.
£32k staked returns £46k
Profit £14k

Ah right -misunderstood . Thought he wanted more on Mighty Potter than on El Fab.

No worries Mano, he probably didn't get on anyway

I happen to like him, but I heard him say State Man should 1-4. Not sure that is pro thinking, even if the horse wins by 20L.

i dont think many in ireland would descibe mr dineen as a failed bookmaker. i think that the  landscape of the irish betting ring changed around the time of his retirement with the migration of punters  from on course to betting shops with their extra offers . many of the big irish oncourse layers either retired , died or went skint around then. a successful oncourse bookie is now one who has most of his turnover back on here to guarantee a profit. .even during his time  he was always more of a punter than a traditional layer.what impresses during his appearances is his knowledge of form without resorting to notes.i think his honesty is a breath of fresh air. one of lifes true gentlemen.

He’s full of $hit

Like Shropshire

FFS on ITV now

Now even popping up on ITV.

good luck to him take it while you can !

I love Pundits with strong opinions.

Doesn't take himself too seriously and comes across like a bloke you'd enjoy going for a pint with, couldn't give a fook how many winners he does or doesn't tip, he's a laugh that will do for me.

him and dave jennings work well off each other and he is deffo entertaining imo.

Bluffer but a good bluffer

Times like these I miss Big Mac......the best imo

He gives The Goffer nay chance here.

I should have put the sub titles on when they just spoke to him.
by the time i realised what he said, he'd said another 900 words

His main bet of the day is Milan Tino.

Young John Jo up... Mmm not exactly riding with full confidence right now.

Hes just a fav backer so thats not surprising

Done his orks

doing all the media work to offset his losses

Prob have to do even more media work now

racing6699
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Hes just a fav backer so thats not surprising



He was layer of Galopin. He didnt fancy him.

He must have done his conkers this week.

Watched him on Thursday I’m sure he said he was going full wack full bank job on brighter days ahead but miss heard him and could not find the horse the next day Friday looked at the last race and said to myself there’s that horse Johnny has gone full load on better days ahead had a nice few quid on him watched him win at 5/1 and thanked Johnny no wonder he’s a pro I thought to myself then realised his selection got turned over the day before at 5/6

breath of fresh air last year...on every media since...stale as an old fart now...

Very knowledable and profitable punter for years , not been able to get on is his biggest problem these days . He wears his heart on his sleeve and can be very witty, i'm a big fan of his views and have made a few quid out of his thoughts over the past few years .

timberman16 Mar 24 08:43Joined: 12 Apr 07 | Topic/replies: 2,079 | Blogger: timberman's blog
Very knowledable and profitable punter for years , not been able to get on is his biggest problem these days


Im not aware of exchanges not letting you "get on".

Anyone entitled to their opinion but him saying Gallop lay of the week took some working out

he gets his share of winners and losers ,he does admit he finds it hard to find anything over 10/1 which obviously it is gonna be harder ,but you have to look in the right places and have the right attitude , i found to my cost over the years  of once you get into a mindset of "shorter the price better the chance " it can get harder to look beyond tha scenario.

DG,Lol

Racing badly needs characters like Jonny, i miss big mouth Barry Dennis and Mark Wistanley and Gary Wiltshire these guys were pure Gold when they were on T.V

Totally agree acey

FOYLESWAR: not heard much of the couch lately hows he doing ? was entertaining on those previews imo.

Mark Winstanley (with an ancient byline photo) wrote for the Daily Star's Cheltenham pullout. His festival yankee was Embassy Gardens, Gaoth Chuil, Theatre Man, and Quai de Bourbon, none of which won. He also tipped Awaal in the Lincoln.

The post-Cheltenham wrap issue of Upping the Ante should be out later today which should tell us how Johnny Dineen (see, we are back on topic) did.

thanks ramruma glad to hear the couch is still about ,more about the comedy value than his tipping prowess but some of  those cheltenham previews could do with him to liven em up imo.

Ribero another scumbag to join the DG scumbag you English are the pits of the earth but only those 2 mentioned here

Yes bentring sorry about that,I thought DG was being light hearted as he often is and after I'd agreed with him I saw the error of my ways,I can laugh at myself too so apologies.

No worries pal I said after DRF the only accents I heard we're English and long may it continue they really enjoyed themselves

Johnny reckoned he won about a bag of crisps. Which in punters terms is done a few quid in. Stellar Story his biggest winner @ around 45.0 yet still ended up losing that day. Good job hes got the preview nights/upping the ante to the bills.

reckon where johnny went wrong and where  a lot of other punters go wrong me included ,is staking ,probable he had plenty on the shorties which is fine if they win ,but went smaller on the bigger priced pokes ie stellar story in the theory that 33/1 means its only got an outside chance and dosent justify a similar stake to a much shorter priced pick. after 50 years punting i still have not got the staking right ie to much on the losers not enough on the winners.

It's one of the great anomalies: that many punters can work out a way of betting which delivers a long-term profit to level stakes, then they go and have a monkey on the odds-on shots, but only a score on the 33/1 winner which actually delivers that level stakes profit.

The usual argument is along the lines of "what's the point of backing even money shots if you're only going to have a score on them, eh?"

To which the reply is "now you're getting somewhere; think about it: what's the point of backing even money shots - that's the question you've finally stumbled on."

elliot wasnt even sending the horse over but another entry got injured at the weekend before chelt so elliott just put stellar story on wagon to replace intended runner

This year seems even worse. Try finding a preview without this guy? Unreal. I get why people like his humour and style but his knowledge and advice is really poor. He essentially presents in a joking way why to lump on a favourite at 4/7. God help you if thats the content you aspire to. In fact there is no pundit anywhere who is explaining how to find value and exactly when and why to oppose the hype to get long term success. Its just dumbed down content for the masses like everything else these days. There is such a huge space in the racing pundit mkt for better content.

Listened for the first time , he was amusing and did say that Majborough was good value at 4/7 as he reckoned 4/11 (anywhere but Cheltenham ) but its all just bookies fodder . I cant talk as backed at 100 and laid at 20  Cromwell's  mare but only in buttons .

He's entertaining that's for sure. But I have to question some of his opinions. He thinks CH isn't as good as he was and they never come back. Er? He won a Christmas hurdle after a year off and only 80% fit and he could have won at Cheltenham by 20L+ LTO if allowed to. He's already back! Also says he won't lay CH but would have if Lossiemouth was still in the race? Er? She had zero chance of winning the Champion Hurdle. She couldn't even get near a ring rusty CH in Christmas Hurdle and she'd be coming into the race off the back of a heavy fall.
My opinion? The year off might have actually helped CH and I think he's better then he was (opinion based not figures) I think you'll see something very special at Cheltenham tomorrow

Mullins just said on racinguk interview live that Lossiemouths work was not as good as State Man last week and they felt she would at best be playing for places in CH.

Lots of his tips are awful, but at least he isn't too bothered about actually saying something, unlike 99% of the media. I like that he doesn't take himself too seriously, and I think that makes him hard not to like.

Punters like him because genuine and he's been in the game for a long time and he's obviously made it pay. It's hard not to like/respect a guy like him. He's completely wrong about CH though. If I were a short priced backer I'd be licking my chops about him. lol But like he says, it's all about opinions I suppose

Oh no for JD

Not a good race for him. An adequate round of jumping would have been enough.....

if Johnny rode it himself he would have won on it ffs, that was a pathetic effort from Walsh...
Jody McGarvey is JP"s number 4-5 pick jockey and he would have given Maj a better spin

Think mullins and Johnny will be seething with that ride,never gave horse any confidence and his jumping just fell apart

he,s supposed to be a pro punter one might think the 4 fences he clattered at leopardstowm might have marked his guard, clattered 9 fences in 2 races

Novice Chaser at 1/2 in festival race is his NAP. Oh dear…

Poor Johnny, the changing man 2nd

I no its all for  clicks and most of it rubbish but just heard dineen on X sdasying bnallbujrn is lay of the meeting and her,ll be laying hiom big and also backing  dancing city and BDA against him
can anyu serious punters/layers  /explain the method behind as staskiong plan like that ?

Lay BALLYBURN

Said he wouldnt back Ballyburn if he was offered evens.....what a wally.....take the evens then lay it off on here ffs

He was all over the new lion and said when nrnb came about to back ballyburn at 2/1 cuz it could be odds on on the day.
Give him his due, imo