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Well done To George Galloway on his win, Keir Stramers Labour will lose many other safe seats in the Election due to Keir Starmers silence on what Israel is carrying out on the Palestinians .
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Wins a local election, and has a flag flying behind him of a country 1000s miles away.
What has this once great nation now become....
What has this once great nation now become....
I just felt sorry for the voters of Rochdale not having a proper candidate on the ballot paper.
Why are people in Rochdale interested in Palastine?
Drive through Rochdale and the answer to your question bread will become clear
maybe haven't realised sorting out palastine and getting the local football team back on track ain't paying their spiraling household bills ??
Everyone should be interested in what's happening in Palestine? They are human-beings too regardless of geography, creed, political persuasion, etc. What the Israeli Army and Mr Netanyahu are doing is genocide.
Rochdale is dominated by the Asian esp Pakistani community. As such, a Muslim representative is most likely these days; The Asian former Labour candidate was "pariah" by his forme Party. Mr Galloway knows how to play the policial game; he's form.
I think the results in Rochdale could give Sir Starmer a huge headache if the indiscriminate killings in Gaza continues or a ceasefire still not achieved come the next General Election. If so, the voters will be unlikely to vote Labour esp if a Muslim candidate is selected again post the sexual crimes in the area; the white locals could ditch Labour, and vote strategically again.
But, it was good the former Labour candidate was comprehensively ditched and beaten.
Rochdale is dominated by the Asian esp Pakistani community. As such, a Muslim representative is most likely these days; The Asian former Labour candidate was "pariah" by his forme Party. Mr Galloway knows how to play the policial game; he's form.
I think the results in Rochdale could give Sir Starmer a huge headache if the indiscriminate killings in Gaza continues or a ceasefire still not achieved come the next General Election. If so, the voters will be unlikely to vote Labour esp if a Muslim candidate is selected again post the sexual crimes in the area; the white locals could ditch Labour, and vote strategically again.
But, it was good the former Labour candidate was comprehensively ditched and beaten.
I just felt sorry for the voters of Rochdale not having a proper candidate on the ballot paper.
How are you defining 'a proper candidate' ?
How are you defining 'a proper candidate' ?
That’s the ‘new’ meaning of genocide ofc, to go with the new meaning of racism and the new meaning of Islamophobia
All altered to fit a narrative to embolden just one set of beliefs.
It’s perhaps a good thing that the foreign policy desires of this Worker’s Party are separated from Labour.
Islam should have its own home in politics so that the major parties don’t attempt to appease them by creating mad laws that impact the majority
All altered to fit a narrative to embolden just one set of beliefs.
It’s perhaps a good thing that the foreign policy desires of this Worker’s Party are separated from Labour.
Islam should have its own home in politics so that the major parties don’t attempt to appease them by creating mad laws that impact the majority
post yer most seats ( tory ) bet at 8.8 It's gonner be a labour landslide but I hate 'em both.
Only 39% of them bothered to vote, I wouldn't feel too sorry for them.
Very disappointed that this type of thread has not been confined to the sh**hole that the politics forum has become. No escape I suppose.
Everyone should be interested in what's happening in Palestine? They are human-beings too regardless of geography, creed, political persuasion, etc. What the Israeli Army and Mr Netanyahu are doing is genocide.
Being interested is ever so slightly different to determining the actual result of elections of representatives to UK parliament. People who think that is the most pressing pollical issue for them, by definition care about what happens in foreign countries more than what happens on their own doorstep. Now why might that be ?
Being interested is ever so slightly different to determining the actual result of elections of representatives to UK parliament. People who think that is the most pressing pollical issue for them, by definition care about what happens in foreign countries more than what happens on their own doorstep. Now why might that be ?
GLASGOWCALLING 01 Mar 24 12:49
Only 39% of them bothered to vote, I wouldn't feel too sorry for them.
Because there was nobody to represent their views.
Only 39% of them bothered to vote, I wouldn't feel too sorry for them.
Because there was nobody to represent their views.
What I find utterly laughable is the ongoing discussion around party leaders calling for ceasefires in Gaza. It is purely a vote winning exercise, they don't actually think UK politicians calling for ceasefire will make a blind bit of difference do they ?
Very disappointed that this type of thread has not been confined to the sh**hole that the politics forum has become. No escape I suppose.
Great pity the thread title didn't give the topic away, allowing people to avoid it if they want.
Great pity the thread title didn't give the topic away, allowing people to avoid it if they want.
What I find utterly laughable is the ongoing discussion around party leaders calling for ceasefires in Gaza. It is purely a vote winning exercise, they don't actually think UK politicians calling for ceasefire will make a blind bit of difference do they ?
Some of them crave the block vote evidenced in this result. That, and we now live in this modern dystopia where what people say is far more important than what they actually do. At least, they think it is. The virtue signalling era.
Some of them crave the block vote evidenced in this result. That, and we now live in this modern dystopia where what people say is far more important than what they actually do. At least, they think it is. The virtue signalling era.
Mr Cider- I'm really not going to get involved other than to point out with regard to the following:
"Everyone should be interested in what's happening in Palestine? They are human-beings too regardless of geography, creed, political persuasion, etc. What the Israeli Army and Mr Netanyahu are doing is genocide."
Should not "Everyone" be interested in what China is doing to the Uyghurs? Or what the Arab Muslims are doing to the African Muslims on the African continent? What about what's going on in Venezuela? The question is why is Israel held in isolation as a special case. Deep down we all know the answer. It's not more of a pity that I looked at the thread having seen the title than the thread should appear on a racing forum at all. I've left the politics forum for good. I really do hope that my enjoyment of the other forums will not have to cease too. There will be no further comment by me on this subject on this forum.
"Everyone should be interested in what's happening in Palestine? They are human-beings too regardless of geography, creed, political persuasion, etc. What the Israeli Army and Mr Netanyahu are doing is genocide."
Should not "Everyone" be interested in what China is doing to the Uyghurs? Or what the Arab Muslims are doing to the African Muslims on the African continent? What about what's going on in Venezuela? The question is why is Israel held in isolation as a special case. Deep down we all know the answer. It's not more of a pity that I looked at the thread having seen the title than the thread should appear on a racing forum at all. I've left the politics forum for good. I really do hope that my enjoyment of the other forums will not have to cease too. There will be no further comment by me on this subject on this forum.
the only way this will end is if every jew and chrisitian is dead and palestine can be turned into another vile repressive intolerant backward steaming sh1thole like all its neighbours. free palestine me hole
It's the latest liberalist dogma, Slicer. Predominately useful idiots who get told what to think by the bbc. Most of them couldn't find Israel/Palestine on a map.
Behind them you've got the people who do exactly know what they are doing. Allied by their shared hatred of the West, and our values.
Nut zero, blm, palestine, lower taxes, critical race theory, trans ideology, male self flagellation (& several others). Infected practically all of our institutions and cultural institutions, who now trip over themselves to confess to their racist and misogynistic past.
Behind them you've got the people who do exactly know what they are doing. Allied by their shared hatred of the West, and our values.
Nut zero, blm, palestine, lower taxes, critical race theory, trans ideology, male self flagellation (& several others). Infected practically all of our institutions and cultural institutions, who now trip over themselves to confess to their racist and misogynistic past.
I work with some of the younger people (20 to 30s) in society and occasionally try and engage them in a discussion on politics and they are not interested.......say they wont vote and dont even know how.....bonkers stuff....this is the education they left school with
Galloway is a self serving opportunist, but he's not the only one.
^thank allah for that. youd soon fill em up with conspiracy bollox
Which conspiracy you on about Mitolo....any that are coming true????
galloway is a prize canute and offensive dishonest unpricipled demagogue on the wrong side of everything. in his time hes supported saddam hussein, putin, xi , cuba, chavez/maduro in venezuela and the iranian revolution. the only one he has missed out is north korea
all of them would have bumped him off long ago
hes demented in his vanity and detests the western democracies
all of them would have bumped him off long ago
hes demented in his vanity and detests the western democracies
This is what I dislike about this forum.....you get attacked by people youve never met for having a different opinion to them.....very sad
A ridiculous attention seeker posting on the wrong forum, presumably, because no-one pays any attention to him/her on the appropriate forum.
Mar 1, 2024 -- 12:50PM, Slicer wrote:
Very disappointed that this type of thread has not been confined to the sh**hole that the politics forum has become. No escape I suppose.
DOWN WITH THIS TYPE OF THING
Perhaps you should give up on Forums DancingB? The point is a discussion platform for democratic debate which seems not to suit your view that everyone should agree and damn the facts as posted my mitolo?
can say anything they want. starmer could say he'll end the conflict in gaza and give every uk household a one off payment of 10 grand if he gets in. then get in and say he's not bothered about gaza and he's changed his mind about the 10 grand.
but thanks for the votes, couldn't have done it without ya
but thanks for the votes, couldn't have done it without ya
Lol Chorley & Rochdale…..are you paying attention Netanyahu…….aye pulling the troops out as we speak……ffs
‘this is for Gaza’
What about Rochdale George…..lol Fk Rochdale
Shambles…..should be fun watching the big house on the Thames now…..bawling and squawking….
What about Rochdale George…..lol Fk Rochdale
Shambles…..should be fun watching the big house on the Thames now…..bawling and squawking….
In a constituency formerly held by BEAST Cyril Smith.
Looking at Lunchtime new Israel shooting people getting Food Aid , dropping bombs on refugee camps..seems to be an Israeli slaughter of a population on TV every day .the whole world should be taking on Israel not standing idly by looking the other way like the British government are !
timberman 01 Mar 24 14:31
Looking at Lunchtime new Israel shooting people getting Food Aid , dropping bombs on refugee camps..seems to be an Israeli slaughter of a population on TV every day .the whole world should be taking on Israel not standing idly by looking the other way like the British government are !
Lots of fake
October 7th certainly wasn’t…..
Looking at Lunchtime new Israel shooting people getting Food Aid , dropping bombs on refugee camps..seems to be an Israeli slaughter of a population on TV every day .the whole world should be taking on Israel not standing idly by looking the other way like the British government are !
Lots of fake
October 7th certainly wasn’t…..
This notion that criticising Israel government and/or military is ALWAYS anti-semitism is GROTESQUE NONSENSE!
or that any jewish person doing the same is ALWAYS a display of a self-hating Jew is also GROTESQUE NONSENSE!
or that any jewish person doing the same is ALWAYS a display of a self-hating Jew is also GROTESQUE NONSENSE!
the whole world should be taking on putin but you arent bothered about him
I believe very little of what I see on the MSM as its been proven in the past to be dubious to say the least
But you do have a lot of people unable to think for themselves who believe it all hook line and sinker
the protsters worldwide arent just bothered about israel. jews in general are a target. those building sophisticated tunnels under israel with iranian money arent interested in any solution than the eradication of jews. its their stated aim. and nobody seems bothered by irans repeated objective of finishing off israel via hamas and hizbollah and nuclear weapons if it gets its hands on them
thisn will not end unless israel is
thisn will not end unless israel is
as an alternative to msm try loonytube and twix-theres always soemthing on there from mr putins lie factory for you to enjoy
Mar 1, 2024 -- 2:35PM, mitolo wrote:
the whole world should be taking on putin but you arent bothered about him
I do see Putin as a the devil who must be stopped and if we don't stop him now we will have to stop him later at far greater cost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNrnImrPtMw
Interesting little video
Interesting little video
70% of votes cast were postal votes 
.
Apparently Galloway was odds against at times yesterday which must have been one of the best prices of all time since in reality he'd already won before the polling stations opened. They sent out his winning press release hours before the polling stations had even shut.
.Apparently Galloway was odds against at times yesterday which must have been one of the best prices of all time since in reality he'd already won before the polling stations opened. They sent out his winning press release hours before the polling stations had even shut.
I had a look at the market yesterday evening, just out of interest, and it was still more or less evens each of two then.
Odd that the market didn't seem to know, given the huge margin of victory, and that the labour bloke didn't even finish 2nd in the end.
Odd that the market didn't seem to know, given the huge margin of victory, and that the labour bloke didn't even finish 2nd in the end.
coward the conspiracy mug at it again. putin isnt evil, despite killing everyone for 24 years
all of europe has ganged up against him because they are. what a moron
all of europe has ganged up against him because they are. what a moron
A little look into Galloways past shows he's a chancer,self-serving opportunist Canute.
Starmer threatened the Speaker with withdrawing his support after the election for him if he didn't get his way.
Many Labour MP's were too scared about voting according to their concience because of islamist mobs threatening them. They are still in that postion.
The situation in Israel/Gaza should not be the subject for a bye-election.
Where do these people,who chant "free,frre palestine",where do their loyalties lie?
Starmer threatened the Speaker with withdrawing his support after the election for him if he didn't get his way.
Many Labour MP's were too scared about voting according to their concience because of islamist mobs threatening them. They are still in that postion.
The situation in Israel/Gaza should not be the subject for a bye-election.
Where do these people,who chant "free,frre palestine",where do their loyalties lie?
The Reform candidate was intimidated and threatened. Is this the Britain we want to live in? And notice the complete silence from both the installed Stooge and the pleb leader of the Labour party on this. But what do expect from 2 Muppets who support such actions in other Countries like Ukraine.
The UK is becoming more and more like Ukraine with each passing day.
Politics of Ukraine
In the years after Ukrainian independence, election fraud was widespread, mainly through the use of "administrative resources".[50] On the other hand, according to Taras Kuzio, election fraud in Ukraine could only reach five percent of the total vote.[51] Following the initial rounds of voting in the 2004 presidential election, the Supreme Court of Ukraine ruled that due to the scale of the electoral fraud, it was impossible to establish the election results and ordered a revote.[52] Afterwards outright vote rigging diminished,[53] although politicians still claimed election fraud, and administrative tricks to get more votes for a particular party had not vanished.[54] The Ukrainian electorate remained highly skeptical about the honesty of the election process.[55] Any voter who engages in election fraud faces a maximum sentence of two years in jail[citation needed], though activists say no one has been punished for voter fraud since Ukrainian independence.[56]
In the 2000s United States diplomats claimed the privatization of several Ukrainian state enterprises was **** in favor of political friends.[7] On a regional level, corruption was discovered in connection with land allocation.[57]
Around 2010 Ukrainian politicians regularly accused each other of corruption while claiming to fight it themselves.[58] After going undercover in the Reforms for the Future parliamentary faction in early 2012, Roman Zabzaliuk claimed this faction "bought" its members for "US$500,000 (for a 'defection' from other parliamentary groups), and then they pay a monthly salary of $20,000-25,000"; in contrast, according to Reforms for the Future, Zabzalyuk had pretended he was "suffering a very serious disease" and the group had managed to raise some $100,000 for Zabzalyuk to undergo surgery in Israel.[59]
Since 2011, the President, Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, Prime Minister, Prosecutor General, ministers and other Ukrainian top officials have been liable for prosecution for corruption.[60] Since 2010 the Ukrainian press brought up thousands of examples of criminal cases in which state officials, as well as politicians and businessmen linked to the then ruling Party of Regions, were shown leniency unprecedented for the general population of suspects.[61]
Minister of Internal Affairs Vitaliy Zakharchenko stated in 2012 that since 2010 about 400 politicians had faced criminal charges in connection with corruption; most of them from the Party of Regions, followed by Bloc Yulia Tymoshenko and Our Ukraine–People's Self-Defense Bloc members.[62]
In the early 2010s Ukrainian media, particularly the Ukrayinska Pravda, regularly unveiled millionaire lifestyles of Ukrainian politicians and public servants,[63] utterly at odds with their declared official incomes.[64]
According to historian Andrew Wilson, as of 2016 progress in reducing corruption was poor.[65] A 2015 survey showed that 72% of adults blamed "corruption of power" for the lack of progress in reform.[65]
A 2016 requirement for MPs to declare their wealth led to a declared cumulative wealth of about $460 million for the 413 MPs.[66] Reacting to public criticism, MPs cancelled a salary rise that would have doubled their monthly salary.[67] This measure was part of an Anti-Corruption Package passed into law in 2014, which was a requirement of international financial support for Ukraine and a prerequisite to eligibility for visa-free travel within the European Union.[66][68]
Politics of Ukraine
In the years after Ukrainian independence, election fraud was widespread, mainly through the use of "administrative resources".[50] On the other hand, according to Taras Kuzio, election fraud in Ukraine could only reach five percent of the total vote.[51] Following the initial rounds of voting in the 2004 presidential election, the Supreme Court of Ukraine ruled that due to the scale of the electoral fraud, it was impossible to establish the election results and ordered a revote.[52] Afterwards outright vote rigging diminished,[53] although politicians still claimed election fraud, and administrative tricks to get more votes for a particular party had not vanished.[54] The Ukrainian electorate remained highly skeptical about the honesty of the election process.[55] Any voter who engages in election fraud faces a maximum sentence of two years in jail[citation needed], though activists say no one has been punished for voter fraud since Ukrainian independence.[56]
In the 2000s United States diplomats claimed the privatization of several Ukrainian state enterprises was **** in favor of political friends.[7] On a regional level, corruption was discovered in connection with land allocation.[57]
Around 2010 Ukrainian politicians regularly accused each other of corruption while claiming to fight it themselves.[58] After going undercover in the Reforms for the Future parliamentary faction in early 2012, Roman Zabzaliuk claimed this faction "bought" its members for "US$500,000 (for a 'defection' from other parliamentary groups), and then they pay a monthly salary of $20,000-25,000"; in contrast, according to Reforms for the Future, Zabzalyuk had pretended he was "suffering a very serious disease" and the group had managed to raise some $100,000 for Zabzalyuk to undergo surgery in Israel.[59]
Since 2011, the President, Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, Prime Minister, Prosecutor General, ministers and other Ukrainian top officials have been liable for prosecution for corruption.[60] Since 2010 the Ukrainian press brought up thousands of examples of criminal cases in which state officials, as well as politicians and businessmen linked to the then ruling Party of Regions, were shown leniency unprecedented for the general population of suspects.[61]
Minister of Internal Affairs Vitaliy Zakharchenko stated in 2012 that since 2010 about 400 politicians had faced criminal charges in connection with corruption; most of them from the Party of Regions, followed by Bloc Yulia Tymoshenko and Our Ukraine–People's Self-Defense Bloc members.[62]
In the early 2010s Ukrainian media, particularly the Ukrayinska Pravda, regularly unveiled millionaire lifestyles of Ukrainian politicians and public servants,[63] utterly at odds with their declared official incomes.[64]
According to historian Andrew Wilson, as of 2016 progress in reducing corruption was poor.[65] A 2015 survey showed that 72% of adults blamed "corruption of power" for the lack of progress in reform.[65]
A 2016 requirement for MPs to declare their wealth led to a declared cumulative wealth of about $460 million for the 413 MPs.[66] Reacting to public criticism, MPs cancelled a salary rise that would have doubled their monthly salary.[67] This measure was part of an Anti-Corruption Package passed into law in 2014, which was a requirement of international financial support for Ukraine and a prerequisite to eligibility for visa-free travel within the European Union.[66][68]
The interests of the Rochdale constituents will come a very poor second to the ego trip that has just begun.
Quite entertaining though that Sky interview by Sam Coates 
Matt Goodwin on GB news was brillant, common sense needs to get back into our society.
The installed Stooge trying to deflect the blame by mentioning the "far-right" in the same breath. This is a text book response from a lying stooge. There is NO far-right movement in this Country. If there were they would all be thrown in jail, they certainly wouldn't be allowed to take to the streets of London every week or harras & threaten Politicians.
democrat 01 Mar 24 18:28
The interests of the Rochdale constituents will come a very poor second to the ego trip that has just begun.
Spot on, democrat.
The interests of the Rochdale constituents will come a very poor second to the ego trip that has just begun.
Spot on, democrat.
It's such a shame that this Country has been invaded the last 30 odd years and it's getting worse day by day. My parents and my wife's parents, like a lot of other people's were in the forces during the 2nd World War to help stop the their enemies.
There are more wars going on now than ever before and it will end in a very bad way.
There are more wars going on now than ever before and it will end in a very bad way.
Thing is Galloway was threatened a while back and was fortunate to escape……they will turn on him on day,he ain’t one of them…..most will see him as Infidel…
Italian guy went to Gaza to help and support…….brown bread……
Italian guy went to Gaza to help and support…….brown bread……
Not sure there is more wars, just the world is getting smaller due to Internet, always been hundreds of unreported on wars at any given time.
It's like extreme weather, been occurring since time began, just gets a lot more attention now.
Same as earthquakes ect.
It's like extreme weather, been occurring since time began, just gets a lot more attention now.
Same as earthquakes ect.
Mar 1, 2024 -- 7:13PM, stewarty b wrote:
What price was Galloway on here please. tia.
From memory Labour ended up about 3.0 near election day so George was probably about 1.5.
Was plenty of evens available at various points throughout the day yesterday.
Man puts stickers up opposing mass immigration and the Anti-White rhetoric that's so prevalent in society today and gets a 2 year prison sentence.
Point proven! There is no far right! British people have been hamstrung and aren't even allowed to speak out. Along with the result of a Democratic vote basically being ignored. The UK really is becoming as corrupt as Ukraine with each passing day.
Point proven! There is no far right! British people have been hamstrung and aren't even allowed to speak out. Along with the result of a Democratic vote basically being ignored. The UK really is becoming as corrupt as Ukraine with each passing day.
Sky's Sam Coates' 'interview' with Galloway...Rishi Sunak this, Rishi Sunak that...
Galloway's response:
You talk as if this is God. We're talking about little Rishi Sunak, in the f a g end of his prime ministership. Don't talk to me as if he's come down from the Mount with tablets of stone. The things he said are somehow meant to awe me. They may awe you, they don't awe me.
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1763699644926665193
Galloway's response:
You talk as if this is God. We're talking about little Rishi Sunak, in the f a g end of his prime ministership. Don't talk to me as if he's come down from the Mount with tablets of stone. The things he said are somehow meant to awe me. They may awe you, they don't awe me.
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1763699644926665193
Sam Melia's his name, two years for putting stickers on lamposts. Police, prosecutors and judges enforcing laws on natives only. Meanwhile no-go areas in every city and marches screaming hate every weekend.
oh and btw last year 4,000+ people in Britain were arrested for online 'hate speech'. Mind how you go ...
Looking at BBC news this morning and more Palestinians slaughtered last night , Russia look like a reasonable bunch compared to the out of Control Israel murder machine!
Following the verdicts, Nick Price of the Crown Prosecution Special Crime and Counter Terrorism Division said: “Melia was perfectly aware that the stickers he published on his Telegram channel were being downloaded and then stuck up in public places around the country.
“He also knew full well the impact these racially inflammatory stickers were having, and by attempting to remain anonymous, sought to protect himself and others from investigation. He was very deliberate in the manner he wanted to spread his messages of racial hatred, and online messages recovered made it clear that he knew these stickers were being displayed in public and causing damage to public property.
“It is illegal to publish such material intending to stir up racial hatred towards others, and the CPS will not hesitate to bring prosecutions against those who break the law in this way.”
special crime and counter terrorism
an extremely rare public comment on a case from the cps. i wonder why that is.
Examples of the most “extreme” stickers identified by police included “Second-generation? Third? Fourth? You have to go back”, “Mass immigration is white genocide”, “They seek conquest not asylum” and “There is a war on whites”.
evidently some of these are unpleasant phrases to put on stickers, terrorism they are not. Nick.
“He also knew full well the impact these racially inflammatory stickers were having, and by attempting to remain anonymous, sought to protect himself and others from investigation. He was very deliberate in the manner he wanted to spread his messages of racial hatred, and online messages recovered made it clear that he knew these stickers were being displayed in public and causing damage to public property.
“It is illegal to publish such material intending to stir up racial hatred towards others, and the CPS will not hesitate to bring prosecutions against those who break the law in this way.”
special crime and counter terrorism
an extremely rare public comment on a case from the cps. i wonder why that is.
Examples of the most “extreme” stickers identified by police included “Second-generation? Third? Fourth? You have to go back”, “Mass immigration is white genocide”, “They seek conquest not asylum” and “There is a war on whites”.
evidently some of these are unpleasant phrases to put on stickers, terrorism they are not. Nick.
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