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Deffo preferable to a - sign, ace. Good luck today.
One Night Thunder, 1pt EW @ 40-1, 3.35 Doncaster (6 PLACES) I'm going to have a speculative each-way pick on One Night Thunder, formerly trained by Richard Hannon. The colt ran well on his debut for Gemma Tutty at Newmarket (one mile, heavy) at the backend of last season when, like today, he was returning from around 4 months off. Always to the fore, he stuck to his task well before losing second place late on and dropping to 4th, but finishing clear of the others, in a race won by the proven mudlark Dashing Roger, who runs in the Listed race in the opener on today's card. One Night Thunder finished behind one of today's rivals Spirit Genie, who was more patiently ridden, and who he meets on 5lb better terms for around a 2L beating. The third home, Magic Memories, also runs today in the Spring Mile. One Night Thunder disappointed just eleven days later at Newcastle, but it's likely the race came soon enough. This is a step back up in class for One Night Thunder, but he seemed to handle the heavy ground well enough at Newmarket and remains unexposed under the conditions, while it will be interesting to see if he can find some improvement for his current yard. |
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i bet youve been shown a few hand signs in your time george
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Sadly no joy with One Night Thunder. His stablemate won the Spring Mile off a similar break, and the selection's trainer was bullish about his chance saying she didn't think he was fully fit when he ran well at HQ last backend, but alas, One Night Thunder was ridden prominently on a day when such tactics weren't favoured given the headwind which was described as "strong, half against" and he faded to finish in mid-div.
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Perserverants, 1pt EW @ 11-2, 4.15 Doncaster
Perserverants was no match for Zorak when runner-up in this race last year on soft ground but that was no disgrace considering the winner subsequently proved to be a big improver rising 32lb in the ratings. The selection failed to win after but did run well again last spring when finishing second in a 0-90 at Ripon. He was absent for nearly ten months prior to a couple of runs back over a mile this year at Southwell and there was more encouragement on the latest one when finishing a respectable 5th in a 0-90. Perserverants can race off a mark 4lb lower than for his good effort in this race last year when he had one of today's rivals, Ascot Adventure, in behind, and hopefully those two recent spins on the all-weather have put him spot on fitness-wise for this return to turf. |
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GL George. Off topic, in the 2.30 there is a 1 million Guinea yearling been gelded after
2 runs last year, the second run was decent form. How often would that happen? |
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Not sure saddo, I know they gelded the ill-fated Creative Force (also by Dubawi) after two starts and he'd already won a race, and would go on to be a Group 1 winner.
I think there might have been another of theirs that was fairly high profile that they gelded. Also Rebels Romance, gelded before he'd even run, would go on to be a G1 winner. So I don't think it's what they want to be doing as they're in the business of producing stallions, but evidently if they think it's necessary then they will. |
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Battaash was gelded after two runs (won a Bath maiden, then beaten at Royal Ascot).
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Close yesterday George
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Virgin, I see the stablemate, Zargun, who you'd mentioned on an AW thread a while back, finally came good. 33s in the morning. Trainer said in the post-race interview that the AW isn't the horse's bag but it got his mark down (by a stone to be precise). That'll explain why it went off a nlcely backed 12s shot then.
6-1 SP for Perserverants 2024 Running P/L: +41 pts No selections today for this thread. |
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Mariamne, 1pt EW @ 17-2, 5.15 Southwell
Mariamne signed off for James Ferguson in October with a second over 5f at Wolverhampton to a George Boughey-trained handicap debutant who would follow up under a penalty in novice company. Her four runs for her new yard following a 70-day break over 6/7f haven't been great, so there is a question mark over her current form, but the return to 5f may help and she's now 9lb lower than for that Dunstall Park effort, on this drop into 0-61 company. Daniel Muscatt, who was aboard then and for her sole win to date, rides her for the first time since, and a first-time visor is applied. Waiting All Night, 1pt EW @ 6-1, 6.45 Southwell Waiting All Night failed to win last season but ran some good races in defeat on turf, including at Haydock in July (7f, good), when one of three to pull away, doing well in the circumstances having been caught wide without cover. The selection has run twice previously on the AW, winning at Wolverhampton (5f) on his racecourse debut, and then when finishing 4th of 7 at Chelmsford (1m) at the end of his juvenile campaign, when he might have had enough for the year or found the trip stretching him. He returns here off a 1lb lower mark than for that Haydock run, and while fitness has to be taken on trust back from a 7-month break, his yard is operating at a 34% strike rate this year (10-29, +12.18) |
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There were a few angles in with Mariamne, but she could only finish 4th of 11 behind a winner who looked well ahead of his mark.
Waiting All Night was easy enough to back (ISP 8-1) but ran okay to finish 3rd in a race where the winner dictated throughout. 2024 Running P/L: +39.6 pts |
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30 Jan Southwell ?
19:30 6f Hcap [LED] Zargun (Nap) 2nd I never notebooked it though ![]() |
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Mums Tipple, 1pt EW @ 25-1, 7.00 Kempton
Mums Tipple shaped as though retaining plenty of ability as a seven-year-old when reappearing at Lingfield (6f handicap, 5lb claimer aboard, finished behind Rohaan) at the start of this month when an obvious eyecatcher having repeatedly been denied a clear run up the straight. He failed to build on that unlucky run eight days later when stepped back up in class to Listed level at Wolverhampton (7) and finishing last of six, having been weak in the betting beforehand. He's back into handicap company here, though doesn't have the 5lb claimer aboard who had won on him when last successful in a handicap, and this doesn't look easy on his first visit to Kempton, but this shouldn't be run at a dawdle with Mount Athos and Mostabshir both potential pacesetters, so hopefully he'll get a nice tow into this and can give a good account. Imperial Cult, 1pt EW @ 33-1, 8.00 Kempton Imperial Cult is returning from an 163-day break this evening but twice showed last year that he can go well fresh having made the frame at Lingfield (12f, off 130 days) and Kempton (11f, off 117 days) for different yards including his current one, with the former effort wanting marking up based on how the race panned out. His previous attempt over C/D saw him finish runner-up to a well-backed John Butler-trained gelding who had become well handicapped again. Imperial Cult is still a maiden after eleven starts but has shown enough to suggest there are races to be won with him, even though he can be difficult in the preliminaries (for example, was withdrawn once at Lingfield last season having refused to leave the paddock). He is running in a higher grade than he usually does, so that would have to be a concern, but a chance is taken at big odds. |
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Mums Tipple, 1pt EW @ 25-1, 7.00 Kempton
Mums Tipple shaped as though retaining plenty of ability as a seven-year-old when reappearing at Lingfield (6f handicap, 5lb claimer aboard, finished behind Rohaan) at the start of this month when an obvious eyecatcher having repeatedly been denied a clear run up the straight. He failed to build on that unlucky run eight days later when stepped back up in class to Listed level at Wolverhampton (7) and finishing last of six, having been weak in the betting beforehand. He's back into handicap company here, though doesn't have the 5lb claimer aboard who had won on him when last successful in a handicap, and this doesn't look easy on his first visit to Kempton, but this shouldn't be run at a dawdle with Mount Athos and Mostabshir both potential pacesetters, so hopefully he'll get a nice tow into this and can give a good account. Imperial Cult, 1pt EW @ 33-1, 8.00 Kempton Imperial Cult is returning from an 163-day break this evening but twice showed last year that he can go well fresh having made the frame at Lingfield (12f, off 130 days) and Kempton (11f, off 117 days) for different yards including his current one, with the former effort wanting marking up based on how the race panned out. His previous attempt over C/D saw him finish runner-up to a well-backed John Butler-trained gelding who had become well handicapped again. Imperial Cult is still a maiden after eleven starts but has shown enough to suggest there are races to be won with him, even though he can be difficult in the preliminaries (for example, was withdrawn once at Lingfield last season having refused to leave the paddock). He is running in a higher grade than he usually does, so that would have to be a concern, but a chance is taken at big odds. |
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Great reasoning with Mums George, unlucky not to cop the lot
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Very UL there GB. Quite like the King beast in the next and I'll chance a R/FC with your pick in the hope the fav underperforms.
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7.00 (looked the winner to me)8.00 unlucky 4th gl ... |
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Cheers cobs, Virgin & WP.
It looked like Mums Tipple could have done with a stronger pace. Mount Athos seemed to get an easy enough lead and the time was slower than the 3YO handicap. Imperial Cult ran okay having got a soft lead but was only good enough for 4th place. 2024 Running P/L: +42.85 pts |
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High Velocity, 1pt EW @ 16-1 (NOT B.O.G), 8.00 Southwell (4 PLACES)
High Velocity didn't shape too badly on his second start for David Loughnane which came at Newcastle (5f) just over two weeks ago, when beaten just under three lengths into fifth place in a race won by one who was recording his 6th success at the Gosforth Park venue this AW season. The selection wasn't helped by being carried right and impeded by the eventual fourth, so can have his effort marked up slightly. High Velocity's highest RPR when trained by James Tate came at Southwell over 5f on his sole previous visit to this track, when rated 7lb higher. He seems to be equally effective at this evening's trip of 6f, so hopefully can give a good account here if continuing to go the right way for his current yard. |
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Cheers Virgin.
He was absolutely friendless in the betting with a Betfair SP of 47, and wasn't helped by being forced wide, but plugged on into a never threatening 4th, to nick the extra place that a few firms were offering. 2024 Running P/L: +45.05 pts |
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Habrdi, 1pt EW @ 10-1, 1.18 Newcastle
Habrdi had impressed when completing a hat-trick, and although his winning run came to an end when finishing 5th upped in class to Listed company last-time-out over 7f at Lingfield, he was returning from nearly three months off and kept on quite well having possibly been not best positioned based on how the race panned out. That form leaves him with ground to make up on Orneo who finished third and is officially rated 7lb superior, but the return to a mile may suit based on that latest evidence and he may come on for that recent return, with Dylan Browne McMonagle crossing the Irish Sea to take two rides on the card for the yard. Kapparis Kid, 1pt EW @ 22-1, 2.50 Chelmsford (4 PLACES) Kapparis Kid has been disappointing since returning from a short break, having previously created a good impression over C/D in December when beating the debutante Pandora's Gift, who has won twice since and is the current favourite for a race later in the day at Lingfield. This is a slight drop in grade, the return to this C/D may suit having raced elsewhere since including the last twice over longer trips, with Neil Callan taking over in the plate. Quandary, 1pt EW @ 20-1, 4.25 Lingfield (4 PLACES) Quandary just failed to get up against Cinque Verde (who also runs here) when selected last time on the thread over 6f at Southwell. She has to prove herself on Polytrack, but appears to be improving, and being by Intello, she looks worth another try at today's trip of 7f, with cheekpieces applied for the first time. |
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A correction to what I said about Habdri being officially rated 7lb inferior to Orne, it's actually 12lb, but 7lb on the adjusted figures with the Gosdens' runner carrying a penalty.
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Cheers Virgin
Quandary (22-1 SP) traded odds-on in the run when it briefly looked as though she was coming with a winning challenge down the centre of the track, but she found an Irish-trained filly that bit too strong. Kapparis Kid hadn't gone on since his C/D win in December, while the filly he beat, albeit making her debut, had won twice since and then today bolted up on her handicap debut at Lingfield to complete the hat-trick. However, Kapparis Kid, who was sent off at a Betfair SP of 55, was in the process of running a better race this time and was set to challenge for a place behind the easy winner when stopped in his run just inside the furlong marker and that was that. Habrdi, who appeared to lack the physical scope of some of his rivals, seemingly had his limitations exposed, fading to finish 4th, and perhaps this stiffer mile might be far enough for him. 2024 Running P/L: +44.45 pts |
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Mickey Mongoose, 1pt EW @ 20-1, 1.30 Southwell (4 PLACES)
Mickey Mongoose has been very weak in the betting this morning, perhaps due to stamina concerns on this three-furlong step up in trip, but there didn't seem any fluke about his win here last time out over a mile when he was never too far away from the pace before leading around 2f out and having the race won at the furlong marker, though he was closed on at the finish by a fair yardstick for the level, who has finished runner-up twice since. Mickey Mongoose now races off a 6lb higher mark but remains in the same grade, and while the market drift combined with a stamina query has to be a concern, he did win at Brighton over 10f when trained by the Johnstons, and is only a pound higher here. Billy McGarry, 1pt EW @ 10-1, 5.00 Southwell (4 PLACES) In contrast, it's interesting to see some money around this morning for Billy McGarry, who was selected on the thread last time out. He was one of three to pull away when winning at Newcastle (7f handicap) last month when he had the current favourite for this, Brother Dave, behind him in second place and Marcello Si in 6th. His two runs since over the same C/D in classified stakes have been disappointing, including when behind Brother Dave two starts back, though track position on both occasions might have offered some excuse. Billy McGarry has a bit to prove now, but he's able to meet Brother Dave on 4lb better terms back into handicap company than when beating that rival, and while the Ruth Carr-trained gelding is proven here and more likley to give his running, it wouldn't surprise to see a better showing from the selection. |
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A couple of poor ones today.
Mickey Mongoose was ridden forward despite the stamina query, though was sending out distress signals before stamina could have been an issue. Not much again from Billy McGarry, who raced wide and could only finish in mid-div. 2024 Running P/L: +40.45 pts |
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2 words for you george............scratch...cards...
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Good idea chav, they have scratch card millionaires on My Lottery Dream Home. If I make it onto the show chav, I'll get David Bromstad's autograph for you.
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Stage Show, 1pt EW @ 12-1, 1.40 Wolverhampton
Stage Show is returning from nearly six months off and has since left the Charlton yard for 22,000 gns, so fitness has to be taken on trust on his debut for new connections, but's he off interest back on the AW as his run at Kempton (12f) in September in a slightly higher grade suggested that there are races to be won with him on synthetic surfaces. Slowly away on that occasion, he ended up having a relatively tough trip in a race that comparatively produced a good time on the card, but managed to lead over a furlong out and stuck to his task well before dropping to third place. He ony had one further start for the Charltons when again running well to finish second at Windsor (11.5f, good). The cheekpieces he wore for the first time for that Kempton run are again missing, but he can race off the same mark and remains unexposed over middle distances on the AW, while David Probert a fairly positive booking (1-6 for the yard). |
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Stage Show was a big market drifter (SP 28-1) but perhaps not surprising given he'd left a high profile yard and was returning from a break. He ran well to be second, just unable to go with the winner when the pace lifted.
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Nice placer GB and an impressive 3.xx pts
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WD George, good place
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Cheers PHS & Cobs. Good luck today.
Sugarpiehoneybunch, 1pt EW @ 11-2, 2.55 Catterick (4 PLACES) Sugarpiehoneybunch hasn't been in much form on the all-weather in five starts this year but the runs will have at least got her ready ahead of this return to a more suitable scenario. She won this race last year off a higher mark on heavy ground when she was following up a 12f soft-ground success at Thirsk, which had come on the back of a pipe-opener on the all-weather. She can evidently go well at this time of year and hopefully can give a good account returned to conditions she is proven under. |
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GL George, bit of cash for this one. Got this equal top with Clear White Light on course SRs
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Well done Cobs, your SRs got it right, unfortunately for me though with the wrong one, as Sugarpiehoneybunch having been held up well in rear could only plug on for a well-held 4th.
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Jungle Charm, 1pt EW @ 14-1, 1.50 Lingfield (3 PLACES)
Jungle Charm is a half-sister to the useful Mighty Gurkha for the same yard, who's just had the three starts so far. She shaped with promise on her debut last summer at Windsor (6f), and returned from a 250-day break to just get the better of a subsequent maiden-race winner at Newcastle (6f) in February. She faced some grizzled performers on her handicap debut at Southwell (6f) three weeks ago, where she probably shaped a bit better than her finishing position of 6th might suggest having been drawn 9/10 and not had the easiest of trips but kept on fairly well until gradually losing places. Jungle Charm has been dropped a pound in the ratings, and while it remains to be seen if this sharper test at the trip suits, she remains open to improvement being lightly raced. |
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