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never ever with this trainer who is one of the biggest twisters known to man
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Watcher. Always a treat to watch great horses.
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BACKING 1.13 (1/4 IF YOU WERE CLEVER) he jumps round looks like value to me !
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Biggest ever Cert in the History of Certaintys.
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Back all day long nearly 2 stones better than rest, hurdles main danger but never looked like hitting one before so can't see a fall.
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cant back it at that price and a watch race for most .......possibly a forcast if ya must have a bet ! .......
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Would rather risk 1 to win 10 than the other way round -but I'll be doing neither.
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Lay. Reasoning because Acey said it's the biggest cert ever.
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bet all day at 1.16
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Agree with D!ckhead.
Hurdles only Danger. Should win pure and simple. |
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acey deucy 25 Dec 23 09:16
Biggest ever Cert in the History of Certaintys. ------------ It would have to be spelt/(or spelled, especially if you are using a lazy American Spellchecker) - Certainties. then. Are you 'hedging your bets' - acey? |
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has anywun bet or laid?
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ive had £1,000 on 1/8 wiv b365..khan only dep £1000 ev 24hrs..was gona have another £1,000 tonite but they've went 1/9.
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won't be 100% fit first time up given the targets long term.
Ratings/betting suggest it doesn't need to be to win. would only be a super-sized stinky drift to temper confidence? |
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imo will be fit enuff to win comfortably..always has been utn...only way its beaten is injury or fall...5000/1 injury...33/1 fall
imo OVERALL 1.05 CHANCE. |
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Backer. Hes 1 of the best jumpers of a hurdle and hurdler ive seen fast /low /fluent. However that is also his potential weakness. Getting too low catching one and hitting the deck. 1/10 above O.K wouldnt take less. tho. .
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Watch the last in the Champion Hurdle before you back him @1/10..
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I concur with lead on
Frankel on the flat at 1/10 maybe, although still not my sort of bet Got to be safer bets at same odds in other sports |
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jumped 70 hurdles and lead on is concentrating on one..
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free monet for the big hitters imo , for the average joe the over or under 10 lengths market could be the way to play , bigger targets to aim for later on and no need to win this in spectacular fashion ,a nice easy on the bridle 3 or 4l unextended victory will do the job no need for heroics .
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Back. I might risk £2.
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acey, do you see living in a tent as a lifestyle choice?
Biggest ever Cert in the History of Certaintys. Nice one mate. ![]() |
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Worth laying at 1.11.
First run of the season, which was not the original plan. Ground now good, first run on going officially described without soft or heavy included. Rubaud. Slick jumping frontrunner who loves a right handed track and will relish the good ground. Constitution Hill will have to complete two miles faster than he's ever been asked to before and that, together with the race fitness disadvantage may put some pressure on his hurdling. |
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If anyones thinking theres any chance this horse does not finish first just empty all your betting accounts and never log in again
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Imagine if it drifts like a barge and Hendo's other one shortens and beats him.
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Hard to understand why anybody would be so desperate to win £1 they would risk £10. Plenty of other races to get involved in.
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won't be doing either but he was almost certainly value at 1/8. He is the best of all time imo and I go back to Persian War.
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the wire : didnt he break Annie Powers track record in the Supreme by the best part of a second?? His best ever performance to date. Hardly good to soft was it?? Just because the clerk of course said it was doesnt mean it actually was.
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Storm Alert 26 Dec 23 11:30
Hard to understand why anybody would be so desperate to win £1 they would risk £10. how i made millions... |
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Beat me to it Geoff.
Going descriptions from coc are terrible. |
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Back if you think its value to win, Lay if you think its value to lose
DO NOTHING if you think the odds are correct or place an order in-running outside the current price for either a back or lay |
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He'll win of course, but it is interesting that he's NEVER raced on GOOD ground.
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so if it had been good ground at Cheltenham they would have pulled him out ? WALOFS
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NEVER raced on good ground declared by a COC(most by name & nature). But clearly has .You dont run 2 miles in 3:44:35 @ Cheltenham on good to soft ground.
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It was pulled out of Ascot citing "unsuitable ground" which was good 13 months ago
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Horrible injury at Down Royal, leg break and flailing. Sickening sight. Please, no more today.
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In fairness despite the official good Nicky Henderson deemed it good to firm
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