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By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 12 Dec 23 15:43
Confused I've never had 10 Accounts at one time! One account at a time, it becomes profitable, then heavily restricted/closed. You then have to ask non betting family and friends to help with another account.

Why would I do that? Post private details on a public forum? I tell you what I will do, put up a thread and post my bets PRE RACE. I look forward to seeing yourself & Sparrow's bets and thoughts BEFORE each race.....
By:
swiftynifty
When: 12 Dec 23 15:45
s.kenbo, were you beating the price, following tipsters etc?

Else, is it just they are all running scared of massive group litigation down the line for poor/illegal practice?
By:
s.kenbo
When: 12 Dec 23 15:46
Hulk reiterating exactly what I said! Keep up, kid!
By:
s.kenbo
When: 12 Dec 23 15:47
No, Swifty. They were all pretty much after one winning day, then gone.
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Dec 23 15:49
Haven't time nor inclination to put threads on what I might fancy on any particlar race.  3 months Pand L will suffice and is much easier to do.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 12 Dec 23 15:52
s.kenbo, just cannot fathom their business model, winners not welcome, losers not welcome, seems just giving up on all horse racing customers.
By:
hulk23
When: 12 Dec 23 15:56
model revolves around the price you take.
By:
hulk23
When: 12 Dec 23 15:57
open an account, 5 bets, all lose, account closed.

all went off at 11/10, you took 11/4.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 12 Dec 23 15:58
Is this the same Sparrow who bemoans the lack of people posting anything worthwhile on here? Surely PRE RACE chat and selections is something worthwhile? I think this beats Aftertiming and fake P&L everyday of the week!

I will post some sort of Grab a Grand for Christmas thread. I hope you post some PRE RACE selections on it, but the chances of that are very slim I'd say.
By:
howard
When: 12 Dec 23 15:59
yes they think u took their 11/4 and then layed it much less.
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Dec 23 16:02
Instead of going all round the houses with grab a grand Merry Christmas threads etc just post your P and L as others have done.
By:
hulk23
When: 12 Dec 23 16:02
correct howard.  they will assume you are locking in a prophet.


and nothing fks them off more than someone locking in a prophet.
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Dec 23 16:03
And I will post mine afterwards.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 12 Dec 23 16:03
It’s ridiculous, Swifty. Makes no sense.

I’d hate to lose my b365 account. After yesterday’s cull it’s looking safe though!
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 12 Dec 23 16:04
Bookmakers by law should have to lay to lose 500 in any market. They're a front for problem betting punters and casino addicts.
By:
hulk23
When: 12 Dec 23 16:08
all been said before.  anyone who received one of those emails should be able to send it on to the GC, point out they've been gubbed for no reason and object to 365's licence which was granted to offer betting facilities to the British public.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 12 Dec 23 18:44
Closed my account as well - Account had a small balance balance sitting on there which I couldn't then access. Email made no mention of this balance. Presumably if I hadn't  contacted them they would have kept this !

Scandalous stuff.
By:
saxon farm
When: 12 Dec 23 20:58
The Management 12 December 2023 11:00

Don't get mad, get even. Submit a detailed and specific Data Subject Access Request (google "DSAR".

It will take you about half an hour to complete the request - if you make it detailed and specific, it will take them 100's of man-hours to comply with the law and respond.

Detailed and specific equals = all the information they hold on you - request that they supply your data both digitally and a hard-copy (paper), ask for copies of every bet you have ever had, your p&l, a list of all deposits and withdrawals, a list of all cards ever registered, all your personal details that they hold, a copy of EVERY e-mail and promotion you have ever been sent either via e-mail text or any other medium, a list of the ones you participated in, details of any "cash out" bets, a list of anybody/other companies/affiliates with whom they have shared your data, all notes on your account, copies and the transcripts from any complaints or queries, webchats, etc, etc.

They have a legal obligation to provide all of this within a timeline that is completely unmanagable!

If everybody that had their account restricted or closed did this, they would either need to reconsider their strategy or they would have to employ a small army of people to comply with the law.

Just sent one of these to magic sign, who I can’t get a penny on with.
By:
Deptford
When: 13 Dec 23 11:44
You can have 2 grand a spin on roulette if you like
By:
lead on
When: 13 Dec 23 12:00
Still waiting for an email...acc. still"under review"since last tuesday..no message when they did that either...I had to go via the chat system to find out..same again last weekend...not really in a hurry as I've got no intention of betting again with such an unprofessional fitm.let alone.God forbid,trust them with any info.  just want to withdraw my balance and lose it with another firm..
By:
haplessamatuer
When: 13 Dec 23 14:50
bet365 boss Denise Coates crowned UK's youngest female billionaire

wonder where this comes from if they shut down everybody??
By:
onlooker
When: 13 Dec 23 16:15
haplessamatuer 13 Dec 23 14:50 

bet365 boss Denise Coates crowned UK's youngest female billionaire

wonder where this comes from if they shut down everybody?
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The FAR EAST - and all those Mad Chinese gamblers in and around that region

Quite how the Gambling Commission (attempt to) 'Regulate' That, must be baffling.


Bet 365 = also have Numerous Racecourse Named after them - as do Ladblokes - in Australia ...

- for example ...

bet365 Hamilton
bet365 Stawell
bet365 Geelong
bet365 Yarra Valley
bet365 Park Kilmore
bet365 Park Wodonga
bet365 Bairnsdale
bet365 Park Kyneton
bet365 Seymour

Ladbrokes Park Lakeside
Ladbrokes Cannon Park
Ladbrokes Pioneer Park

They are Not splashing out Sponsorship/Naming Rights Money - for those Tracks - for Nothing.
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Dec 23 16:39
In Australia bookies cannot pick and choose what bets to accept or refuse. I believe they've to accept bets according to theri terms and conditions of their trading licence.

In the UK the bookies aided and abetted by the silence of their main mouthpiece ie the Racing Post tell the punters the stake they will accept (or not). Here, the bookies run the betting industry and determine the amount of the horseracing levy - not the government or the Gambling Commission (the toothless watchdog of betting).
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 13 Dec 23 23:44
https://twitter.com/WelshBearBets/status/1735001884392398897

^ A couple of claims here (also one in the comments) that old accounts with different bookmakers closed at the same time. "Sharing data?" the OP asks.
By:
parispike
When: 14 Dec 23 13:53
parispike11 Dec 23 21:36Joined: 04 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 4,894 | Blogger: parispike's blog
Ditto. Been restricted to winning a tenner for years and now the closure.

Prob send a request under data protection for info = cost 'em more than the £10 it'll cost me to compile the information.

Absolute rogues.


Sent a SAR under DPA regs. Alll responded to very quickly with a promise to supply information within prescribed timeframe. Suggests me me they anticipated an influx of such requests and have geared up for it. The question is why are they doing this? Best guess I cam make is that shutting a number of accounts is somehow allowing them to (ostensibly)  demonstrate to, e.g. Gambling Commission that they are taking action. In other words "oh yes, GC we've shut x accounts over y months" with the GC too stupid to realise that they are accounts already heavily limited not problem gamblers at all!
By:
dave1357
When: 14 Dec 23 14:05
off the wall thought - they might be thinking of floating the company? And have been advised that they should only cite genuine active accounts in prospectus figures?
By:
hulk23
When: 14 Dec 23 14:22
need to open another 20 accounts before the Grand National comes round again.  that's worth a ton an account, pays for the summer holidays.
By:
parispike
When: 14 Dec 23 14:29
dave135714 Dec 23 14:05Joined: 05 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 20,475 | Blogger: dave1357's blog
off the wall thought - they might be thinking of floating the company? And have been advised that they should only cite genuine active accounts in prospectus figures?


Far from unfeasible but doesn't explain why Hills are (reportedly) doing the same?

Whatever, there will be a reason. It's clearly a coordinated exercise.
By:
dave1357
When: 14 Dec 23 16:46
hulk23 • December 14, 2023 2:22 PM GMT
need to open another 20 accounts before the Grand National comes round again.  that's worth a ton an account, pays for the summer holidays.


I'd be very careful, she's recently taken to contacted plod about multi-accounters.
By:
Hayden
When: 14 Dec 23 17:00
Heard similar Dave from a Trading Director pal last week , Iesnare doing it's job by the looks.

Is Gnoming Fraudulent?
This is a much bigger question than the fairness or unfairness of bookmakers placing restrictions on multiple accounts, or actively monitoring and tracking how we are accessing their services like the cyber police.

Helping a friend learn the matched betting ropes is one thing. But actively seeking to dupe the bookies into believing you are different people is another thing altogether. And it could be called fraud. The bookies don’t like it, and neither do the police. The real ones too, never mind the cyber cops.

Not only that, but if you were providing betting services and betting on the behalf of other people you should be paying tax on any earnings you made. Which would get HMRC involved. Though you would think that they had bigger fish to fry in the shape of multinational corporations avoiding paying tax by squeezing their murky profits through systemic loopholes, tax avoidance is tax avoidance.

Not only do most bookmakers restrict multi-accounts, no industry fulcrum - an accolade of which Yesbets is in receipt - recommends or condones multi-accounting, or gnoming.

That said, some bookmakers do allow partner accounts. Sky Bet, Ladbrokes and Bet Victor all allow partner accounts, while some others like Bet365 allow accounts at the same address but officially only allow one of those account holders to access any promotions.

Given that promotional free bets are the main tools of bagging profits from matched betting, this last is kind of a deal breaker.
By:
hulk23
When: 14 Dec 23 17:20
real police interested in bookies closing accounts for no reason ?  365 operate in the gambling industry.  if they don't fancy the risk that goes with that they can fk off and work for Uber.
By:
hulk23
When: 14 Dec 23 17:22
GC issued them a licence to offer gambling services to the british public.  if they are no longer prepared to do this, without good reason, the licence should be revoked.
By:
dave1357
When: 14 Dec 23 17:24
You would think they would say "civil matter" like they do when any punter complains about anything, but it looks like denise said "you know how much tax I pay" to someone or other.
By:
StillLearning
When: 15 Dec 23 11:24
I've had the same email, 'nature of your business' obviously refers to 'you only bet on horses/sports and don't partake in our slots/gaming' I presume?
By:
JohnyGee
When: 19 Dec 23 10:16
Just wondering, has anyone on here had any joy in trying to get their account back with B365 ?  - doubtful I know bust just in case someone might have had any success, cheers.
By:
hulk23
When: 19 Dec 23 10:44
don't waste your time john.  absolutely no chance. 

does your neighbours hamster have an a/c with them ??
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Dec 23 10:55
Get a friend to open account, pass on log in details.

Works better if they don't live next door.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Dec 23 10:56
Oh, and don't fund it from your bank account..
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Dec 23 10:56
And they will need to supply kyc details too.
By:
hulk23
When: 19 Dec 23 11:37
have to use a vpn as well to hide your ip address, which is an issue as denise doesn't like people hiding their ip addresses
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