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Shishkin debate.
Shishkin debate.
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TBF acey, some sicko's taught their Border Collies to bark "Mint sauce"!!
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Nicky Henderson says Shishkin will be 'as good as gold' at Newcastle start as he goes back to basics for Rehearsal Chase...Ok Nicky thank you very much..... Having me Conkers on.
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What price will it be if it jumps the 1st well 4/5 ??
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Iff Newcastle is off May I ask a couple of questions where will he go next and more importantly has a horse won the kg first time out TIA.have a nice evening.
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Will Nicky guarantee money back to all backers if the horse digs its heels in again? I make it evens to start and evens to win if it does so 3/1 double.
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Not sure about the answer to Ronnies question but the opposition is secondary in this case. If the horse decided to race with enthusiasm he would win the KG but I fear we might never see that happen again.
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Dont get excited lads forecast is -5 at the Track on Saturday morning.....More chance of Oscar Pistorius catching Athletes Foot than Newcastle going ahead.
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Banning the long tom was utterly ridiculous.......but then jump starts have been that for several years now .....
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I really think they will bring it back skip i am surprised the Trainers are not up in arms about it,and the guy that came up with the idea knows absolutely fack all about Horses.
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I think it ought to be called-off. I'd not risk Constitution Hill on ground that is unsafe; the race is unnecessary for him anyway.
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Stood still standing at the start.
Why would anyone bet this thing pre-race? |
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If he does not jump off and race he must be banned for Cheltenham next March when he repeats it one more time prior to Cheltenham this season.
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Was tagged with the dreaded 'recalcitrant' label last time.
Could belt one or three as he usually does and down tools in any case. |
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Geezus
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Sick had Blown them they away
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Sishkin just slipped...so unlucky.
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Terribly unlucky Shishkin. I think he'd have done enough to win ; his stumbled did not help either Bravemansgame or Allaho.
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Looked like he went down on his front legs ad chucked him off, pulled the wool over everyones eyes by electing to start then had the last laugh
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Shishkin was all out two out and the way Hewick finished off he would have won in any case IMO
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Nutcase ^ what you taking?
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half a length up at the last and under the cosh
watch the replay nutcase |
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You need urgent medical attention
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Speaking through your pocket?
Quit the insults and explain why you believe it would have won? |
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I think a different result had Shishkin not interfered with Bravemansgame and Allaho; Allaho would be the most unlikely winner. i think Frodon was the spoiler for Allaho..
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No bet, the horse keeps on and always finds more, sorry if I offended you
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The horse is a pain in the @ss to punters now and from their point of view he should be retired as he is a danger to either win, not start or not be at the races every time he runs in a race now.
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I disagree given the way the winner was finishing [won going away by a length and a half]
I am open to changing my opinion if Hendo and/or Nico say differently. |
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Frodon spoiler for Allaho?
I've heard it all now.On a more sensible tack even with Shishkin's huge bad luck still a more than decent day for Henderson. And how revealing to watch his horror at seeing Shishkin's debacle and his mind ( and bins. ) instantly turning to ascertaining the welfare of his jockey. |
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I think he can win the Gold Cup if Gerri disappoints in The Savills Chase.
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I think Hewick would likely have won anyway. BMG was also inconvenienced by Shiskin's antics and would have finished closer.
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On balance I think Shishkin would have won, he wasn't tired he is just bone idle, I think he had loads left, the issue is whether he would have idled so much that Hewick could have mugged him, but he could just as easily have gone and won by 5 lengths.
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Not seen a race all day been out , just watched recording and my guess would have been 4th for Shishkin.
But we'll never know of course  |
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Effectively a seasonal debut, would be surprised if he didn't tire a lot after the last; and Hewick certainly would have mown him down the way he finished.
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Weird to me that they didn't hold him up and ride him for a turn of foot in what was always likely to be a race with a strong pace on
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The horse was extremely unlucky.
I thought De Boinville displayed huge class in his after-race interview. I was so delighted that that flailing hoof missed his head by that centimetre or two! |
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i cant believe what i am reading on what is supposed to be a horse racing forum.Shishkin would of won 10 lengths.NDB rode the perfect race,and i am no fan.let the horse have its head,showed it clear ground in front and kicked on exposing its 2 rivals for the non stayers they were.Hewick would probably been second and fair enough the game is jumping the fences,Shiskkin did however but was just unlucky.Fair play to Shark for living up the win,his horse did cross the line in front,but howay man show a bit dignity
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if my auant had balls shebuncle!
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Shishkin had Allaho and BMG beat, he was going away from them whilst dossing big time, interesting GC contender with an asterisk on the starting.
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He stumbled and was unable to recover because he was tired. Hewick would have won.
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