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By:
GEORGE.B
When: 31 Dec 23 17:12
Well done again Billy, you're on fire
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 31 Dec 23 18:55
Thanks N-e C, GEORGE.BHappy

I don't want the All Weather to end. If Timeform’s founder Phil Bull is correct describing the effect of the going as “the most important consideration of all” in horseracing analysis. The Polytrack at Lingfield, Kempton, Dundalk and Chelmsford  and The Tapeta at Wolverhampton, Southwell and Newcastle is working out well for now at least. But as we all know things can quickly all change.

All The Best Everyone..
By:
madhatters
When: 31 Dec 23 19:35
HNY BL
Bring on 24 Grin
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 03 Jan 24 08:47
Thanks madhatters, my first bet of the year.. Good luck in 24

Kempton 8-00 Sandy Paradise  3pts Win 11/2

4lbs pull with fav and much better drawn today while McLean House moves down the line the opposite way.

More reasoning later..
By:
glow -worm
When: 03 Jan 24 09:36
top bombing
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 03 Jan 24 13:21
Thanks glow worm.

I usually leave out horses when they have been beaten by another in a race recently and tonight SANDY PARADISE and McLean House re-appose with SP now on 4lbs better terms for a 2L defeat over CD 21 days ago.

The draw for me at Kempton overall looks to favour those drawn low particular those horses drawn in the two stalls next to the rail and my fancy tonight gets next to the rail while MH is the opposite end.

Three weeks ago today it was the reverse with SP having to travel wide giving away lengths until prominent after 2f then disputing second but by then had used up that vital energy needed in the closing stages.

That effort was after 168 days off and looking at his pattern of form he is ready to strike a couple of races after a  small break.

Richard Hughes 5yr old chestnut has won three times over a mile and also readily over CD in June for today's jockey Ethan Jones who has become his regular partner.

Any Thoughts on the Race
By:
stewarts rise
When: 03 Jan 24 13:40
Happy New Year Billy, hope you come 2nd to us in the league Grin, i posted a thread about the jockey riding this last night and also posted this horse up for same reasons also 4lb better off for 2 lengths, got 13/2 EW 1st 4 last night with Billy Hill and 7/1 win only with 356, good luck.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 03 Jan 24 13:50
Thanks sr, I missed it. I will go and have a look now, great minds and all that. Going to be a great end to the season with six going for it.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 03 Jan 24 13:56
The possible negative is that it hasn't won a C4 race before and it is a competative race.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 03 Jan 24 14:29
Well done with last few selections Billy, hadn't looked in as Xmas and NY was hectic.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 03 Jan 24 18:19
Thanks sr, you're spot on regards the Class 4, noticed the horse who finished a neck behind McLean House in that race 21 days ago Soar Above carried 7lbs more next time in a Class 2 event albeit 8l away

With me thinking our fancies run last time should be upgraded, finishing only two lengths behind a Class 4 winner qualifies tonight for me win, lose or place.
                                      Fingers crossed, bet we have had worse bets, I know I have..
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 03 Jan 24 20:10
SANDY PARADISE 3rd 11/2

Update Tomorrow, watching The Darts..
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 04 Jan 24 09:59
Lingfield 3-15 Mr Trick 3pts Win 11/4

Not given a good ride 12 days ago when given too much to do.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 04 Jan 24 11:06
Go out playing Snooker and cards on a Wednesday Billy so only saw the result, the place made sure i didn't lose on race but no good for you here, never mind onwards and upwards.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 04 Jan 24 13:14
Snooker and cards sr, like your style..

MR TRICK was in great form in December getting pipped by a nose, a short head and then winning all off a mark of 54. Wasn't put in the race last time where I spotted him getting pulled back shortly after breaking out of the stalls and held up out of harms way until staying on over this 1m4f.

Ian Williams has employed Kieran O'Neill today who has won a couple for the stable and owners lately and with still on a mark of 56 The Ian Williams Racing Club could be celebrating again with past successes off 58 and 70 not that too long ago.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 04 Jan 24 17:13
Mr Trick was backed into favourite but needs a return to shorter..

Thread Profit/Loss


59.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)


20.68pts Profit 29.32pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  166 Days Left

Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 59.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 20.68pts Profit
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 05 Jan 24 06:59
Southwell 2-57 Katar  5pts Win 5/2

4yr old Maiden who has been knocking on the door of late, I think it will open today straight to The Winners Enclosure.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 05 Jan 24 16:08
Finished Last  But in a way a great lesson learned, every day is a school day. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards, learn by your mistakes and then continue forward

Thread Profit/Loss

54.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)



19.68pts Profit 30.32pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  165 Days Left

Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 54.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 19.68pts Profit
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 06 Jan 24 09:09
Southwell 7-30 Kitbag  3pts Win 8/1

Reasoning to follow
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 06 Jan 24 12:16
The Jack Channon trained and George Bass ridden 4yr old KITBAG has halved in price with some bookies since placing my 8/1 bet this morning, the bay was a winner just before Christmas at Wolverhampton for today's jockey when keeping on in the final furlong from a wide draw.

He had to carry 6lbs more 8 days later but while he was Prominent on the outer he then weakened in the final furlong with his new jockey Tommie Jakes saying he became unsettled and upset in the stalls

Now dropped 3lbs and with the return of the winning jockey it could be a good opportunity for The Owner Mick to do one of his famous Windmill celebrations in Southwell's Minster Suite and give a rendition of..


                                       Pack up your troubles in your old kitbag
                                                And smile, smile, smile
By:
stewarts rise
When: 06 Jan 24 15:00
Lets hope your smiling later Billy and after tmrs game, nice write up. Villa haven't got past 3rd round for ages, so if there is to be a Cup upset, could be us, boro just signed Finn Aziz from us a decent player.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 06 Jan 24 19:48
In the draw for the next round sr, well done..

KITBAG 4th
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 07 Jan 24 11:20
Wolverhampton 8-30 Higher Law  4pts Win 5/1

Was made 2/1 fav 19 days ago after only getting pipped in the race before by in-form She's The Danger with a last night winner behind.
Got struck into when making headway last time and could get off the mark tonight from a good draw with first time blinkers applied.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 08 Jan 24 12:24
Newcastle 3-55 Fitz Perfectly  4pts Win 8/1

Only beaten 3/4L when collared close home by the in-form Finn Russell over a mile at Lingfield at the start of December with Storymaker behind who then went on to win her next three races.

Out fast in that race and it might be a good move dropping to 7f from the high draw with Mikkel Mortensen now claiming his 7lbs




Thread Profit/Loss

47.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)




17.68pts Profit 32.32pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  165 Days Left

Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 47.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 17.68pts Profit
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 08 Jan 24 18:29
After a great spell it's now a Losing streak of six bets but it's only one or two wins away from getting back to a Thread HIGH. That's Racing..

Thread Profit/Loss

43.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)




16.68pts Profit 33.32pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  165 Days Left


Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 43.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 16.68pts Profit
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 09 Jan 24 18:54
Southwell 19:00 Follow Your Heart  4pts Win 15/2
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 09 Jan 24 18:57
Beaten 3/4L on boxing day with four in this race involved, Billy back on and best draw of first five..
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 09 Jan 24 19:15
Follow Your Heart   4th

Thread Profit / Loss

39.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)




15.68pts Profit 34.32pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  162 Days Left



Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 39.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 15.68pts Profit
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 09 Jan 24 21:20
An old Joiner who was the agent on a site said to me in the 1980's, have a betting bank that you only bet with and after a series of losers increase your stake until you steady the ship again and then return to your normal stake.

Find a way, a method that works and stick to it, you will waver, you're human. It will take an awful long time to finally crack it and most never do. And, if you can't be good be careful, he was always saying that. Look out for Corbiere was something he was always saying as well.

The lads joked it would be on his headstone.
They played that Grand National music at his funeral, nice man..

Kempton 8-30 Heartrate  6pts Win 5/1

Just behind the well regarded winner Billyjho and my next time out winner Tyke(Those where The Days) 20 days ago, has won in this grade and distance on turf and also ran well on this surface at Dundalk.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 11 Jan 24 10:17
One of those losing runs..

Heartrate  3rd

Thread Profit / Loss

33.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)


14.68pts Profit 35.32pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  160 Days Left


Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 33.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 14.68pts Profit
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 13 Jan 24 10:35
Chelmsford City 6-45 Harry The Haggler  6pts Win 13/8

Back on the Polytrack with Marco Ghiani returning

Chelmsford City 7-15 Cavalluccio  6pts Win 5/2

CD winner who would of won last month but endured a rough passage.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 13 Jan 24 17:49
HARRY THE HAGGLER arrives having won two of his last four outings and the return to a mile and Marco Ghiani could bring up a Hat-trick of winning rides for the jockey.
Looks like there is plenty of stamina in the Stuart Williams 4yr old with the success over the mile on Soft at Brighton in September and while the price is just a smidge above my basement odds I have done well at these sort of prices with all three winning on this thread.

Alice Haynes 5yr old CAVALLUCCIO looked un-lucky in December when waiting for room over 1f out and then finding short of room and hampered until flying towards the finish going down by just a half length to the in-form Mr Trick.
CD success in November for tonight's jockey Kieran O'Neill who has rode all three wins and I think there are doubts over the other two mainly fancied rivals on the grounds of distance..
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 13 Jan 24 19:56
9/2 WINNER, all things come to those who wait.
                                               I can still remember The old agent Alf telling me how to bet in The notorious Eagle and Child pub in Huyton one Friday afternoon in 1978. Have a Bank of money only used for betting and only bet singles and don't chase on the day but when you have a losing run increase your stake until the ship is steadied.
"I'm driving so just get me a pint of mild and a large whiskey and don't forget lad watch out for a horse called Corbierre..

                   


Thread Profit / Loss


54.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)


18.18pts Profit 31.82pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  159 Days Left


Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 54.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 18.18pts Profit
By:
madhatters
When: 13 Jan 24 20:37
WD BL
Nice drift to boot
Ship afloat Grin
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 14 Jan 24 09:38
Thanks madhatters, I have been letting in water the last week or so but the good thing is I know where it was coming from. Just need a bit more to bale out..

Lingfield 4-00 Hold The Press 6pts Win 7/2
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 14 Jan 24 10:11
Lingfield 3-30 Split Elevens 6pts Win 9/2

I backed Split Elevens at 8/1 and put it on here on another thread last March, if I remember rightly there was also another decent win that day as well. That day he won for an amateur lady jockey off 62 easily so today could be the day again off 56.
Keeping to 6pts for thread Profit/Loss, but Challenge is still 1pt.. You only live once..
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 14 Jan 24 16:32
Hold The Press beaten on the nod by a short nose

Thread Profit / Loss

42.78pts Profit


50pt Profit Royal Ascot Challenge to 1pt Level Stakes Bets (No Doubles but BOG inc)



16.18pts Profit 33.82pts Required by Tuesday 18th June 2024  159 Days Left


Thread HIGH 65.78pts Profit            Today 42.78pts Profit
Ascot Challenge HIGH 22.68pts Profit    Today 16.18pts Profit
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 15 Jan 24 09:56
Wolverhampton 8-30 Aeroplane Mode 6pts Win 11/2

John Butler's 5yr old has only had five runs on the AW with the best over this distance in November when nearest finish, Harry Burns with his 3lbs off keeps the ride..
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 16 Jan 24 09:08
Up-date later..

Wolverhampton 3-05 Surprise Picture  6pts Win 7/2

CD Winner in this Class 5 for today's jockey..
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 16 Jan 24 10:20
Wolverhampton 4-10 Aeroplane Mode 6pts Win 7/2

Wasn't put into race last night in a funny betting race
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