Thanks booster what a sad state of affairs

I sincerely hope none of you think the bookies are good for horseracing, horseracing industry and punting. How can adequate funding be adequate from the Levy if "bookies" do not take bets, restrict bets or close down "recreational" accounts?

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I dunno if you bet or not, TM. My suspicion is that you don’t very often, and you made it perfectly clear on the other thread that these checks and measures being bought in won’t affect you in the slightest.

The problem with the restrictions is that bookmakers made it way too easy to win, because they made all their money on the slots etc. Literally anybody can do it, it’s not even low hanging fruit, it’s fruit that has already been picked, peeled and put in a bowl for you.

Absolutely anybody can follow the exchange to tell them which horses to back and which ones not to, there is software that can do it for you (which is also a big part of the problem). You’ve got single mums on mumsnet, who don’t know one end of a horse from the other, who have taken 5 figures out the bookmakers just by following matched betting rules.


If you want bookmakers to take your bets, two things have to happen. 1) they do away with all the concessions, BOG, extra places, money back as free bet offers and 2) people have to be allowed to lose.

As these new measures ensure nobody is even allowed to lose anymore, you’ve got no chance of getting a minimum bet guarantee or people being allowed to win. A lot of the concessions like BOG are quickly getting removed now too, given recreational betters are far worse experience.

Most punters, who can’t be arsed with the rigmarole of constantly opening new accounts and betting in other peoples name just use the exchange. And if the bookmakers did stop all the concessions and easy money, you’d be far better off just using the exchange anyway.

The fact (apparently)nobody can get on at the bookmakers is irrelevant. Under these new affordability measures, people are going to be stopped from betting full stop. That is the issue.

He has no idea whatsoever either way if I will be affected or not sparrow.

He just needs to drag it down to a personal level - because the rational discussion has left him stumped (again).

He accused me of winning too much and then of not betting at all within the space of 3 posts on the other thread.

I have "multi-accounted" once or twice for sure - but I wouldn't get out of bed for the "easy money" you keep referring to. I multi-accounted to get the price being advertised by an (alleged) bookmaker.

I don't suppose you are aware that these "intrusive" and "draconian" checks have been going on for more than a decade? Anybody that wins has been subjected to them, if they have the temerity to try and make a withdrawal!

If you don't know what price something should be - don't become a "bookmaker" imo.

LOL like you would know what price anything should be if you didn’t have the exchange to look at.

Bookmakers have to price up every race, it’s not hard to pick off their ricks. They should go back to 1999 and just price up 3 or 4 races a day, then let everybody wait for the show for the remaining races. Would solve majority of account restrictions.

Blunder

I think people would like the only trade paper to investigate why for so many years people are struggling to be able to get a fair bet ,any other sport where unscrupulous goings on happen would have there journalists snooping around to dig things up and expose what’s been going on.

Is it the general consensus on here that exchange withdrawals would also cause a problem the same as a bookmaker account? And I do realise that this exchange is also owned by a bookmaker.

No sparrow - you can withdraw as much as you like whenever you like from here.

The "trigger" (on here) is only deposits I would imagine!

That's true mitolo - but you have known that for a couple of years tbf

Just for you BR:


Football / Peterborough United U21 v Birmingham U21 / Over/Under 3.5 Goals
Under 3.5 Goals    Lay    321801918075    22-Sep-23 14:59    1.17    352.94        1.17    22-Sep-23 14:59


Gone green now because i had no idea what price they should be if there were two quick goals!

That’s a good effort in this day and age glasgow well done,I have now stopped using bars restaurants that only take cards,and use my cards only when there really is no choice.

sparrow - the honest answer is that I don't know. My recommendation (assuming you are here for leisure/pleasure primarily??) but would also apply to anybody else - would be to get 2 stage authentication (if you don't have it already) and stop withdrawing, until we get some clarity.

Anecdotally, on here, some people are saying £100 is their deposit limit per month - but we only have their word for that and it might just be that they were displaying all the behaviours of a degenerate betting addict!

Great stuff, the management.

Let’s just hope that once the gambling commission and anti gambling campaigners have finished with the slots and FOBTs, destroyed horse and greyhound racing, that they don’t set their sights on under 21 football too.

And as for showing signs of being a degenerate gambler, isn’t betting on a football match that nobody else even knows is happening a bit of a red flag?!

Apologies Glasgow, misinterpeted your post.

I'm a bit like like you jimnast, try to pay cash and just hate booking fees.

The Racing Post, BHA and Racing Media are conducting their own online survey to give horse racing punters the opportunity to voice their opinions on the GC proposals. Perhaps those that have an interest beyond their hatred for the paper and bookies might participate instead of bellyaching on here?

The survey is a 26 question poll and can be accessed via the RP, better late than never I suppose and at least they will have something with which to tackle the GC with when those charlatans produce their own results.

You don't sparrow, just go to the bottom of their report and you click on the link.

Thank you, cagliari

It seems a bit ironic to me, you tried to make it personal and even started trying to take the p1ss out of me - but I'm trading away quite happily here and haven't made a deposit since God was a boy - yet (according to you) you have made so many deposits that you have restricted you to £100 per month for your own protection.

It seems to me that getting personal and trying to take the p1ss probably wasn't the best idea you ever had, given the respective positions we find ourselves in.