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By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 19:46
Tote place was the value
By:
ericster
When: 19 Sep 23 19:51
I never liked how he struck a jockey with his whip when he was caught napping and lost out to an inspired young jock, in the final furlong somewhere.
I forget the specifics.
Suffice to say the young jockey wasn't seen much after that.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 19:57
I to have forgot the specifics Eric ,I never forgave Eddie ahern for kicking that horse in the belly at bath,yet in the end forgave Fallon for pulling Webster of his horse at Beverley which really he should have got a life ban,I’m glad he didn’t as he became a great jockey and most of the time a punter’s friend.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 19 Sep 23 20:21
Form.
Was Shirley  heights the Halifax  colours sure it was him I spoke to at York in the stand beside  the old owners stand he was entertaining  Statto. Ps Statto gets invited  more places than me .
By:
impossible123
When: 19 Sep 23 20:26
Just watched the Irish 2000G tussle between Kings Lake and To Agori Mou. The decision of the local stewards were reversed and the former (victorious by a neck) kept the race; a few encounters took place between them, and only a neck separated them again.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:28
There was a lot of needle involved impossible it was great at royal ascot when tou agori won
By:
impossible123
When: 19 Sep 23 20:32
Who were the owners involved? I'm more clued up post Shergar.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:33
Ronnie you would have seen Shirley heights win the Mecca Dante ,he had a busy time before the derby ran in 3 trials,at York the future st leger winner was in the race.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:39
Tou agori mou was owned by a restaurant owner who had owned ela mana mou when favourite for the 79 derby ,not a clue who owned kings lake but Vincent O’Brien trained him ,I remember seeing him in the first arc I went to in 1981 a race which was always going to stretch him,he was a very good horse he even beat blue wind at leopardstown and she was no mug.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:42
The 3rd meeting between them both in the Sussex stakes was on the same day as a major event any guesses?
By:
saxon farm
When: 19 Sep 23 20:44
Royal wedding Charles & Diana?
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:45
That’s correct saxon
By:
impossible123
When: 19 Sep 23 20:45
I hazard a guess: Prince Charles' and Diana's marriage?
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 19 Sep 23 20:45
Lady Di and Charlie
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:45
It was a public holiday I think.
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Sep 23 20:52
Fair Salinia Oaks for Stoute….Stoute rated him big time..
By:
blackbarn
When: 19 Sep 23 20:52
Jimnast - Kings Lake was owned by Jean-Pierre Binet; I think it ran in his wife's colours.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:56
Thanks blackbarn I would never have known I seem to think they were dark colours maybe green and black.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 20:58
Fair Salina beat dancing maid form she was a very good horse
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Sep 23 20:59
Yep Stoute was top man then jimnast
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 21:06
It’s only just now that I feel he has had his day form he has been at the very top throughout my time racing ,but we did say that about Henry then came light shift and you know who
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 21:08
He was unlucky with kings best just like Golden Fleece we will never know how good they could have been.
By:
blackbarn
When: 19 Sep 23 21:09
"Fair Salinia Oaks for Stoute….Stoute rated him big time.."

So did HRAC!!
By:
blackbarn
When: 19 Sep 23 21:14
Jimnast - Green with Black Sleeves were his colours, but if KL raced in Mme Binet's colours they would have been same colours but hooped sleeves and cap. Very dark either way; well remembered.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Sep 23 21:44
Thanks blackbarn if I say so myself I still have very good recall even with modern day racing ,but it’s all I’ve ever done really for brain cells not over loaded.

Just looking back to the 81 arc incredible that kings lake was only a 7/2 chance ,not doubting his ability but the test the arc is was surely going to prove to much.

Shergar was pulled out not long before the day so I would imagine he would have been around a 12 chance in the anti post
By:
steerforth
When: 19 Sep 23 22:39
Mention of that Dancing Brave run at Goodwood brings a cherished memory. My wife was in a maternity bed in Norwich waiting to be induced. After the injection or whatever it was, I asked the midwife what time I could expect the arrival. She gave me a rough window which I quickly worked out allowed just enough time to get to the nearest bookies and see the main event of the day, and get back in time to save face. I just made it. My daughter just turned thirty seven last week. A couple of weeks later she was just about settled enough back home to allow me to make it to Paris for the greatest race I ever saw.
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Sep 23 12:33
It’s highly unlikely steerforth you will ever see a better one.

It’s a good job your wife was induced another week or so delay you wouldn’t have been in Paris.
By:
sparrow
When: 20 Sep 23 12:44
jimnast 19 Sep 23 18:56 
Remainder man trained in the north I think was 3rd also placed in the 2000 Guineas



Reg Hollinshead the trainer.
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Sep 23 13:30
Yes I think your right on both accounts there sparrow
By:
formoftheace
When: 20 Sep 23 13:31
Frankie Durr
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Sep 23 13:45
Form we were talking about Micheal stoute well if still in is heyday that filly who runs in the listed race at Yarmouth today would be the type you could have a good punt on.
By:
formoftheace
When: 20 Sep 23 14:39
Blind jimnast…

Anything he sent to Scotland years back
By:
CagliariG
When: 20 Sep 23 15:25
You have a short memory then Quixall, on leave in 81 if my memory serves and went to Hamilton to buy some money, turned over around 2/5 for more than a monkey!!
By:
formoftheace
When: 20 Sep 23 15:29
Robots Cagliari…..you’ve heard the word
By:
CagliariG
When: 20 Sep 23 15:30
That apart, standing at the top of the entrance to the old members bar at Yarmouth and watching through bins I said to my mate about our horse "FFS he thinks he's fukcing Greville on Dancing effing brave, cupid stunt"

The horse won but as I turned around there was Greville in his Safari suit wearing huge sunglasses and a wry grin!!! As we all trooped back into the bar he whispered "woof" in my lug!!
By:
Cutter27
When: 20 Sep 23 18:09

Sep 19, 2023 -- 10:39PM, steerforth wrote:


Mention of that Dancing Brave run at Goodwood brings a cherished memory. My wife was in a maternity bed in Norwich waiting to be induced. After the injection or whatever it was, I asked the midwife what time I could expect the arrival. She gave me a rough window which I quickly worked out allowed just enough time to get to the nearest bookies and see the main event of the day, and get back in time to save face. I just made it. My daughter just turned thirty seven last week. A couple of weeks later she was just about settled enough back home to allow me to make it to Paris for the greatest race I ever saw.


I love this narrative! Many thanks, Steeforth.

By:
blackbarn
When: 20 Sep 23 18:25
Cagliari - Re Greville and "Woof".  I expect you know, but just in case you, or others, don't Greville was famous for his dog impressions. A well known incident is quoted in HRAC'S 1983 ghosted autobiography. Which is a very good read by the way - called On the Level.
By:
ericster
When: 20 Sep 23 19:34

Sep 19, 2023 -- 7:57PM, jimnast wrote:


I to have forgot the specifics Eric ,I never forgave Eddie ahern for kicking that horse in the belly at bath,yet in the end forgave Fallon for pulling Webster of his horse at Beverley which really he should have got a life ban,I’m glad he didn’t as he became a great jockey and most of the time a punter’s friend.


Yeah, I remember that one too jimnast.
As for forgiving KF,
I remember Jack Ramsden also, but that's another story.

By:
antony_27
When: 20 Sep 23 20:19
Wasn't he the Jockey that once fell off a horse after it was allegedly zapped by a stun-gun or something similar or did I totally imagine it?
By:
Hayden
When: 20 Sep 23 20:24
A man who claimed he invented a James Bond-style ultrasonic gun to stun race horses and cover up his involvement in a drug conspiracy failed today in his effort to force a London court to declare a mistrial.

Judge Gerald Butler ruled that an application by James Laming’s attorney to invalidate the four-week trial because of a technical procedure should not be upheld.

The defense claimed the court clerk had not signed the indictment papers properly.

But the judge said it was not “fatal” to the indictment that the clerk signed the front of the document rather than at the end of the charges, as the rules stated.

“There is ample authority for the proposition that the indictment rules are directory and not mandatory,” he said.

Laming, 49, was convicted last week of conspiring to supply cocaine in a multimillion-dollar operation with self-confessed Peruvian drug baron Rene Black.

During the trial Laming claimed he had invented an ultrasonic stun gun--inaudible to humans but terrifying to horses--in order to fix races as part of a plot to launder drug money.

He claimed the gun, hidden in a pair of binoculars, was used successfully to unseat jockey Greville Starkey just yards from victory on Ile de Chypre in the King George V Handicap at Royal Ascot last year.

Two other defendants in the trial, Martin Cox and Patrick Fraser, were cleared of involvement in the conspiracy to supply cocaine but had admitted possession.
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